Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Gaspode

Lads can you tone down the comments please, there is no excuse for the rudeness you are showing to one another. It's possible to disagree without being nasty or calling names.
I will have absolutely no hesitation in closing this thread if it keeps up

Ludo

Gaspode wrote: »

Lads can you tone down the comments please, there is no excuse for the rudeness you are showing to one another. It's possible to disagree without being nasty or calling names.
I will have absolutely no hesitation in closing this thread if it keeps up

Please don't. This thread has been very good and well behaved. It would be a monumental cock-up to allow one person to get it shut down.
Edit: apologies if this is seen as back-seat modding...certainly don't mean to do that.

.red.

I don't like the level 5 restrictions but kind of agree with them.
Except for the 5k rule, that's a load of sh1te.

I can meet with one other household, but not in a house or garden and it has to be outside and within the 5km.
I live 25km away from my dad, who lives alone. My sister lives very near him so technically I can't use the "compassionate grounds" rule to see him.
I'll be adhering to every rule put forward but will be visiting my dad, safely and out his back yard.

Tig98

.red. wrote: »

I don't like the level 5 restrictions but kind of agree with them.
Except for the 5k rule, that's a load of sh1te.

I can meet with one other household, but not in a house or garden and it has to be outside and within the 5km.
I live 25km away from my dad, who lives alone. My sister lives very near him so technically I can't use the "compassionate grounds" rule to see him.
I'll be adhering to every rule put forward but will be visiting my dad, safely and out his back yard.

That sounds like grounds for the social isolating bubble or whatever

Ludo

.red. wrote: »

I live 25km away from my dad, who lives alone. My sister lives very near him so technically I can't use the "compassionate grounds" rule to see him.

Why does this not fit into the compassionate grounds? Because of your sister? I don't think any reasonable person would object to you visiting him.
I think it certainly fits into this reason to travel more than 5km:
For vital family reasons, such as providing care to children, elderly or vulnerable people, and in particular for those who live alone, as part of an extended household, but excluding social family visits.

H8GHOTI

Ya red, I know you said you are going to visit but I wouldn’t even think twice about it. Correct decision.

ACitizenErased

Friend finally got her result back, 74 hours after being tested. Negative thank God but another test next week due to being a close contact.

Zardoz

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

So if the govt did nothing were you going to suddenly lift yourself out of that 7 month confinement? Take your condescending **** elsewhere and stop creating a situation where you can blame others.

I'm being condescending but its ok for you to say "And now to be penned in, almost Hitler like. What a **** evening.":rolleyes:

What I expected the Govt to do was to address the crux of the matter, the lack of ICU beds in our health system.
Instead they did hardly anything, 17 extra beds was their unprecedented plan.
https://www.thejournal.ie/icu-bed-numbers-5217685-Sep2020/
Its akin to trying to plug the hole in the titanic with tissue paper.
Address everything bar the elephant in the room.

We will be back in Lockdown in January ,there is no doubt of that, as the health service is a shambles.

JP Liz V1

Many city shops flooded that would be busy today and tomorrow with new level 5 restrictions, poor businesses

ACitizenErased

latest CUH update

Total number of positive cases of COVID-19 identified in CUH in the past 24 hours - 1

Total number of inpatients cases of COVID-19 currently in CUH – 28

Total number of patients with a confirmed diagnosis of COVID -19 discharged from CUH in the last 24 hours. – 3

Total number of COVID-19 patients receiving ventilator support in CUH – 1

Kind Regards
Dr. Ger O’Callaghan
Interim Chief Executive Officer

Be right back

116 cases in Cork today.

ACitizenErased

There's 150 staff out sick at the CUH, either with COVID or in isolation.
That number includes 50 porters.

One of the patients in CUH atm is a 5 month old baby.

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's 150 staff out sick at the CUH, either with COVID or in isolation.
That number includes 50 porters.

One of the patients in CUH atm is a 5 month old baby.

I think I am more worried and more anxious now than when it first hit hard here in March April and May

Take care everyone and stay safe

jackrussel

So they've made a second entrance to that site on south Douglas road and now have canopy’s between the containers. Safe to say it will be a test site?

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think I am more worried and more anxious now than when it first hit hard here in March April and May

Take care everyone and stay safe

There's 3 times less people in hospital now than in March, April, May. We've a positivity rate of circa 6.5%, compared to almost 20% in March, April, May. We're seeing considerably less deaths and 4 times less people in ICU.
It's not all bad....

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's 3 times less people in hospital now than in March, April, May. We've a positivity rate of circa 6.5%, compared to almost 20% in March, April, May. We're seeing considerably less deaths and 4 times less people in ICU.
It's not all bad....

13 deaths today and they recent according to Richard Chambers

RIP

We need the rate down to 1.5 or 1 or under yes?

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

13 deaths today and they recent according to Richard Chambers

RIP

We need the rate down to 1.5 or 1 or under yes?

13 deaths reported today. They could have happened any time over the past 14 days. (In terms of 'recent')
We need r under 1 yes. Positivity rate dropped today for the second day in a row, and 350 backlogged cases were included in today's case number.

mean gene

jackrussel wrote: »

So they've made a second entrance to that site on south Douglas road and now have canopy’s between the containers. Safe to say it will be a test site?

definitley looks that way badly needed too

TheChizler

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

13 deaths today and they recent according to Richard Chambers

RIP

We need the rate down to 1.5 or 1 or under yes?

Positivity rate is different to R number. R number needs to be under 1 for it to go away. If you have little testing capability like in April and only test people showing multiple symptoms you'll have a high rate, if you open up the testing like the last few months it'll be lower

who_me

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

13 deaths today and they recent according to Richard Chambers

RIP

We need the rate down to 1.5 or 1 or under yes?

Yeah, below 1 (ideally, well below 1). R is the average number of people that will be infected by one person. As long as it's below 1, the number of those suffering from the virus will be diminishing.

cantalach

Zardoz wrote: »

What I expected the Govt to do was to address the crux of the matter, the lack of ICU beds in our health system.
Instead they did hardly anything, 17 extra beds was their unprecedented plan.

Increasing the number of ICU beds doesn’t literally mean increasing the number of beds. The limiting factor is that that the nurses and doctors who work in ICU need highly specialised training. Like all medical specialties, that’s not a question of weeks or even months. Incentivising Irish medical people to come back from Australia is probably the only way to increase ICU capacity quickly.

Away With The Fairies

cantalach wrote: »

Increasing the number of ICU beds doesn’t literally mean increasing the number of beds. The limiting factor is that that the nurses and doctors who work in ICU need highly specialised training. Like all medical specialties, that’s not a question of weeks or even months. Incentivising Irish medical people to come back from Australia is probably the only way to increase ICU capacity quickly.

Will Irish healthcare workers abroad fall for that one again? Alot of healthcare workers answered Ireland's call and came home earlier in the year and they wouldn't even give them work.

Widdensushi

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Will Irish healthcare workers abroad fall for that one again? Alot of healthcare workers answered Ireland's call and came home earlier in the year and they wouldn't even give them work.

The reality we face longer term is balancing an older population who need physical and financial support and a decent quality of life for those that provide it, either physically or financially, we can't have reasonable retirement ages and reasonable tax rates, one or the other unfortunately . At the moment the plan seems to be an ever increasing population but that is a pyramid scheme that means there are more older people in need of support. At some stage it will be unsustainable but the older people in power seem intent on it continuing till they 'get out'.

Zardoz

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Will Irish healthcare workers abroad fall for that one again? Alot of healthcare workers answered Ireland's call and came home earlier in the year and they wouldn't even give them work.

I spoke with a friend of mine at the weekend, she is a manager in a hospital .
She said that the Garda vetting process for new nurses can take months and there was some other cruelty to patients training to be passed too.
Red tape galore.

Pen Rua

The Banks of the River Lee Walk (at the top of North Mall, before going up the hill to Sunday's Well) closes at 6pm in October and (I think) closes at 5pm from November.

There's no place near us (Sunday's Well) to take a pleasant walk in the evenings now. During Lockdown 1, we would walk the Banks of the River Lee Walk, then up to the Mardyke Areana, Lee Fields and back.

Now, the only have decent route is to go around by the Pres school and back round via Sunday's Well Road. During the height of winter (dark), I'm not keen on walking along Sunday's Well Road...

Is there anyone to contact about potentially extending opening hours during Lockdown 2?

RINO87

^^^this is a good idea. We should contact city council and request that the parks open later. They will all close at six once the clocks go back. We really need them open.

Pen Rua

RINO87 wrote: »

^^^this is a good idea. We should contact city council and request that the parks open later. They will all close at six once the clocks go back. We really need them open.

I said it to Mrs Pen Rua, and she queried whether these areas would be safe at dark. Would the Council risk it?

cantalach

Pen Rua wrote: »

I said it to Mrs Pen Rua, and she queried whether these areas would be safe at dark. Would the Council risk it?

Surely grown-ups should be allowed to decide for themselves if it is safe to go into the park after dark?

Zardoz

cantalach wrote: »

Surely grown-ups should be allowed to decide for themselves if it is safe to go into the park after dark?

Alot of grown ups simply can't be trusted.
Look at the queues outside Penneys in Cork today, staff said it was mental in there.
People are back stocking up on toilet roll too it seems.

H8GHOTI

Zardoz wrote: »

Alot of grown ups simply can't be trusted.
Look at the queues outside Penneys in Cork today, staff said it was mental in there.
People are back stocking up on toilet roll too it seems.

I think they’re staying open late too. Were asking staff to do 12 hour shifts.

Government:
Look this virus is VERY dangerous and is out of control. We have to move to level 5 for our safety. Shops need to close. You can’t travel more than 5km. It’s super important you follow these rules. But Tuesday & Wednesday are safe, go wild! It’s only dangerous from Thursday on.