Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Daniel2021

the beer revolu wrote: »

They can't vaccinate everyone in a group simultaneously. There is always going to be some people done before others.
The listed groups are being done in order.

But this is an example of someone further down the list being bumped up. This person is not a healthcare worker, doesnt live in a nursing home and is not 85+ and not even 70+.

I would have no issue with this if others with underlying conditions were also being called and were also being bumped up. I know the govt are discussing moving people with conditions further which would be great.

igCorcaigh

the beer revolu wrote: »

The listed groups are being done in order.

Just curious, but does anyone know how they order vaccinations within a certain group?

Is it randomised? Up to each GP?

User142

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Just curious, but does anyone know how they order vaccinations within a certain group?

Is it randomised? Up to each GP?

I know for the group of 18-55 that they will be starting with the younger cohort and working up due to the increased social contact of younger people.

Rationale

If evidence demonstrates the vaccine(s) prevent transmission, those aged 18-34 should be prioritised due to their increased level of social contact and role in transmission.

Ethical Principles

The principle of minimising harm is relevant should it become clear that a vaccine can impact on transmission of the virus as this would indirectly protect the most vulnerable in society as well as restore social and economic activity.

Daniel2021

User142 wrote: »

I know for the group of 18-55 that they will be starting with the younger cohort and working up due to the increased social contact of younger people.

Hadnt heard that they are doing it in reverse for 18 - 55. Have you a link to where you heard this?

Will be interesting to see uptake amongst 18 to 20s. I have cousins in that age range and some of them (not all) have ignored a lot of the rules but their parents would be caring for elderly grandparents. It has been maddening as I feel they are putting our grandparents at risk.

User142

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Just curious, but does anyone know how they order vaccinations within a certain group?

Is it randomised? Up to each GP?

Daniel2021 wrote: »

Hadnt heard that they are doing it in reverse for 18 - 55. Have you a link to where you heard this?

Will be interesting to see uptake amongst 18 to 20s. I have cousins in that age range and some of them (not all) have ignored a lot of the rules but their parents would be caring for elderly grandparents. It has been maddening as I feel they are putting our grandparents at risk.

The quote above is from.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/39038-provisional-vaccine-allocation-groups/

ACitizenErased

User142 wrote: »

The quote above is from.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/39038-provisional-vaccine-allocation-groups/

That's if there's sufficient clinical evidence for reduced transmission from younger people. We won't have that for quite some time.

User142

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That's if there's sufficient clinical evidence for reduced transmission from younger people. We won't have that for quite some time.

The data coming from Israel and the UK is that it does along with the sound ethical principle given by government makes me think there is little chance of anything else happening unless a country with larger vaccination numbers gathers proof to the contrary.

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/business/status/1363460186711744512

Science will win

ACitizenErased

13 cases in Cork today.
Happy Sunday

Be right back

ACitizenErased wrote: »

13 cases in Cork today.
Happy Sunday

Very good news!

Cork Lass

ACitizenErased wrote: »

13 cases in Cork today.
Happy Sunday

That is reason to be happy

ACitizenErased

As of today Cork now has the second lowest incidence nationally behind Kerry.

the beer revolu

Let's not get complacent with this good news.
We went from almost zero numbers to one of the worst regions in the country within a matter of weeks, not so long ago.

ACitizenErased

the beer revolu wrote: »

Let's not get complacent with this good news.
We went from almost zero numbers to one of the worst regions in the country within a matter of weeks, not so long ago.

Can't really compare now to when there was no restrictions though, that's a bit dramatic

JP Liz V1

1 further COVID19 related deaths is being reported today.

The HPSC confirms they have been notified of a further 679 cases of COVID19

13 of the cases reported today are in Cork

(Good to see low cases for Cork and only 1 death RIP)

JP Liz V1

marno21 wrote: »

UK/Kent variant.

I wonder can you catch one of the other variants if you already had it, some talk of the vaccines not stopping the Brazilian variant which is here now too

KrustyUCC

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

1 further COVID19 related deaths is being reported today.

The HPSC confirms they have been notified of a further 679 cases of COVID19

13 of the cases reported today are in Cork

(Good to see low cases for Cork and only 1 death RIP)

Only Kerry are better in cases per 100,000 than us

User142

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I wonder can you catch one of the other variants if you already had it, some talk of the vaccines not stopping the Brazilian variant which is here now too

Vaccines might not be as good at preventing mild illness with the variant but are still brilliant at preventing hospitalization and death. Most the stuff in the media is simply doom mongering for clicks/views at the moment.

TheDriver

User142 wrote: »

Vaccines might not be as good at preventing mild illness with the variant but are still brilliant at preventing hospitalization and death. Most the stuff in the media is simply doom mongering for clicks/views at the moment.

It's interesting how UK is saying number of Brazil and SA variants is decreasing whereas we're told today by Prof Nolan that this is effectively a new virus. So why bother vaccinating? Scaremongering media.

ACitizenErased

TheDriver wrote: »

It's interesting how UK is saying number of Brazil and SA variants is decreasing whereas we're told today by Prof Nolan that this is effectively a new virus. So why bother vaccinating? Scaremongering media.

Ireland is among the only countries in Europe freaking about the variant. UK plan a full re-opening commencing in March.

ACitizenErased

Strong message from the owners of Idaho Cafe on Caroline Street.

A few, carefully chosen words to our Taoiseach.

We have now been closed for about 9 months of the last year.

There are 480,000 people unemployed because of this pandemic, 150,000 of those, in hospitality.

We understand that we are closed to keep our fellow citizens safe, (we closed before we were directed to last year.)

We understand the seriousness of this pandemic.

We understand the terrible cost to so many.

We understand.

We don’t understand why 5,600 people flew into Ireland from countries on Covid warning lists last month.

We don’t understand why you still haven’t worked out a quarantine plan.

We don’t understand the communication shambles.

We don’t understand the contempt that you show to half a million people.

All we ask of you, is leadership, We don’t expect dynamism, just leadership.

Do not offfer a pay rise of €82k to a senior health manager, the same week as you tell a senior hospitality manager that you are taxing her €350 a week pandemic payment.

Do not allow our managers, chefs and floor staff to find out through leaks and whispers to journalists, that they are now part of the long term unemployed.

Do not pretend to understand our pain, when your salary still lands each month and your pension is still paid by the tax on our pandemic payment.

Do not pretend to understand what it’s like to find that the business you built, the career that you chose, the future that you planned, are worthless in the eyes of our government.

Do not pretend, lead.

Get your ministers and advisors together, form a cogent plan, go on national television, look us in the eye and tell us what it is and why we are doing it.

This morning, nearly half a million retail workers, musicians, hotel managers and former taxpayers are waiting, waiting for you to lead.

Waiting for you to tell us that there is a plan.

Waiting, at home, with the last vestiges of hope as company.


Yours sincerely

Richard Jacob

Idaho

https://idahocafe.tumblr.com/post/643723682811887616/a-few-carefully-chosen-words-to-our-taoiseach-we

ACitizenErased

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Can't really compare now to when there was no restrictions though, that's a bit dramatic

No restrictions? Pubs were still closed iirc. Masks, social distancing & wfh was still the done thing.

TheDriver

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland is among the only countries in Europe freaking about the variant. UK plan a full re-opening commencing in March.

It's like the infamous Spanish variant last summer, old news after 2 weeks.
But variants can be good for scaremongering. Covid 2020 isn't scary anymore for most as the uncertainty isn't there so a variant that'll strike us down had to come.

saabsaab

Got lucky but it caused the second wave see below just as well it wasn't more deadly or more infectious.





'Their work suggests that people returning from holiday in Spain played a key role in transmitting the virus across Europe, raising questions about whether the second wave that is sweeping the continent could have been reduced by improved screening at airports and other transport hubs.
Because each variant has its own genetic signature, it can be traced back to the place it originated.'

Zardoz

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland is among the only countries in Europe freaking about the variant. UK plan a full re-opening commencing in March.

Any old excuse to deflect the attention off an incompetent government and not fit for for purpose HSE.

Widdensushi

Zardoz wrote: »

Any old excuse to deflect the attention off an incompetent government and not fit for for purpose HSE.

Are we doing worse than our neighbours? Mistakes are being made, it's a new virus, there is a politics forum also if you want to specifically discuss politics

who_me

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

1 further COVID19 related deaths is being reported today.

The HPSC confirms they have been notified of a further 679 cases of COVID19

13 of the cases reported today are in Cork

(Good to see low cases for Cork and only 1 death RIP)

Also the vaccination ramp-up is becoming more evident in the delayed numbers: 326,475 in total (approx. 6.55 doses per 100 people).

And hearing dates for the 80+ year olds to start receiving vaccines (great news for my Mum, who can't wait to get it).

TheDriver

Zardoz wrote: »

Any old excuse to deflect the attention off an incompetent government and not fit for for purpose HSE.

Variants and all the apparent tourists flying in on their holidays. Stoke the fear fire with a few more logs.

Stark

who_me wrote: »

And hearing dates for the 80+ year olds to start receiving vaccines (great news for my Mum, who can't wait to get it).

Still waiting on a date for my 91 year old grandmother. She's with a small practice out in Ballyvolane.