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Ludo

Pen Rua wrote: »

Cork People-Before-Profit, Coveny, SF TDs add to the appeals for people not to attend. https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40238966.html

When every major political group is either for the status quo of lockdowns or more restrictions, you can see why people can get swept up in fringe movements. No political grouping (bar maybe Aontú) are actively challenging the restrictions. People who are aggrieved have no one in the Dáil (besides Independents here or there) representing them.

Or maybe, when none of the above agree with you in any way, you are actually the one in the wrong.

Pen Rua

I know it's literally just starting, but compared to Dublin, the people aren't being held back from a particular point (i.e. St Stephen's Green) which only heightened tensions.

igCorcaigh

That poster isn't the best look for the organisers.

https://twitter.com/noelbaker1/status/1368196149719539713?s=19

Pen Rua

And they're off.

https://twitter.com/fiona96fmnews/status/1368202730741903360

Looks very peaceful, media won't be happy

ACitizenErased

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Looks very peaceful, media won't be happy

I'm quite surprised at the demographic there to be honest, lots of older people, few families

Quantum Baloney

Fair play to the lot of of them. Can't be there but I hope it goes well. Shameful having that helicopter flying around trying to intimidate people during a peaceful protest.

Gamb!t

Lot of people not wearing masks.

LessOutragePlz

Plenty of gardaí there to deal with any trouble but it doesn't look like there'll be any bother.

I wonder if this protest passes peacfully would it make it more likely for another one to be organised in the future, if severe restrictions continue when groups of people believe they shouldn't.

Pen Rua

Gamb!t wrote: »

Lot of people not wearing masks.

Equally, a lot more wearing them given the crowd at it and what they're protesting.

LessOutragePlz

Gamb!t wrote: »

Lot of people not wearing masks.

That's to be expected really as some people would equate the restrictions with mask wearing.

I have seen a few wearing them but the majority of people aren't.

Away With The Fairies

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

Fair play to the lot of of them. Can't be there but I hope it goes well. Shameful having that helicopter flying around trying to intimidate people during a peaceful protest.

How does a helicopter intimidate people?

the beer revolu

Nothing to report here.
Crowd grown somewhat!

Balmed Out

Pen Rua wrote: »

Equally, a lot more wearing them given the crowd at it and what they're protesting.

That's how you can tell the difference between people who wanted to see how many went to protest and the actual protestors

drunkmonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks very peaceful, media won't be happy

I'd say they were wetting themselves when the far right fascist bomber was arrested..




https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertBohan/status/1368176488525217799

titan18

Balmed Out wrote: »

That's how you can tell the difference between people who wanted to see how many went to protest and the actual protestors

Or you know there are people who are anti some restrictions but can understand why we'd wear masks and social distance still

Dan Dare

Have I missed something here, listening to that speech, unnecessary lockdown, why is it unnecessary?

ACitizenErased

Dan Dare wrote: »

Have I missed something here, listening to that speech, unnecessary lockdown, why is it unnecessary?

Some would argue for regional lockdowns as Dublin drives the majority of our figures atm

Quantum Baloney

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How does a helicopter intimidate people?

It creates the impression for anybody on the fence that what these people are doing is uncontroversially dangerous and wrong and that just being in attendance may present some risk for your wellbeing.

The helicopter is over the top. Everyone knows it is there to intimidate. There are plenty of guards on the ground. Sure didn't forty or so of them arrest a musician earlier.

igCorcaigh

Red FM estimating the turnout at around 500.

the beer revolu

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

Sure didn't forty or so of them arrest a musician earlier.

5 or 6 guards arrested him.
He wasn't a musician.
There were more guards around.

Pen Rua

The organiser, O Cadhla, is now speaking.

https://twitter.com/fiona96fmnews/status/1368208913145991172

ACitizenErased

Seems a lot less looney tune in Cork than it did in Dublin anyway. At least O'Cadhla recognised distancing and masks, to be fair. Not out to cause trouble.

Quantum Baloney

There are always a fair few good looking babes at these lockdown protests.

igCorcaigh

Is the event deemed illegal under L5 restrictions?

If so, is that unconstitutional, as argued by one of the speakers at the event?

igCorcaigh

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Seems a lot less looney tune in Cork than it did in Dublin anyway. At least O'Cadhla recognised distancing and masks, to be fair. Not out to cause trouble.

Is social distancing being adhered to? It's hard to tell from the footage.

He also said wear a mask if you wish, certainly not encouraging it, which is advised in crowded areas outdoors.

Pen Rua

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Is the event deemed illegal under L5 restrictions?

If so, is that unconstitutional, as argued by one of the speakers at the event?

Organising it is prohibited under the COVID health regulations, but prosecution for it will take months (see Golfgate).

The constitutionality has been challenged in court, and that challenge (and appeal) have been rejected. Unhelpfully, the challenge was taken by Gemma O'Doherty & John Waters.

ACitizenErased

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Is social distancing being adhered to? It's hard to tell from the footage.

He also said wear a mask if you wish, certainly not encouraging it, which is advised in crowded areas outdoors.

As I said, compared to the ridiculous events in Dublin, it looks way more peaceful and respectful.

Pablo Escobar

Is the generally disheveled look intentional? The water cannon might have served a double purpose here.

Quantum Baloney

ACitizenErased wrote: »

As I said, compared to the ridiculous events in Dublin, it looks way more peaceful and respectful.

Was same with Cork protests before Christmas. Mixed crowd, all ages, plenty of women, entirely peaceful, if anything, more hippyish than right-wing.