Coronavirus (COVID-19)

the beer revolu

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

FFS :mad: this is a disgrace

Who do you think is responsible?
And what do you think should be done to rectify this?

JP Liz V1

beer enigma wrote: »

It ran out of kits, thats why they've changed the criteria to two symptoms for testing. Will reopen as soon as the kits get distributed that are coming into Dublin

Is there anywhere in Ireland that can produce manufacture test kits?

MissShihTzu

Humilde wrote: »

That Varadkar is an awful langer. He was on yesterday praising China for having done such a great job in defeating the virus. I read today that the Chinese people believe that there could be at least 40,000 deaths there in Wuhan, even though the official figure is 3,000 odd.

Well - that's not quite it and that's not all he said. I've linked the full article https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/taoiseach-thanks-chinese-premier-for-assistance-regarding-supply-of-essential-medical-equipment-991207.html

From what I read, he was also thanking the Chinese for the assistance they sent, and offering Irish assistance in return with regard to research and so on in return.

NOBODY knows what the official figures are in China and elsewhere. You can take those with a pinch of salt. The main thing is that it's here, and the Government are taking all necessary steps to slow the spread and fight the virus by any means.

Calling Leo a langer is a bit rich, IMO. I think he has handled this very well compared to those to the right of us and over the Atlantic.

cantalach

Humilde wrote: »

That Varadkar is an awful langer. He was on yesterday praising China for having done such a great job in defeating the virus. I read today that the Chinese people believe that there could be at least 40,000 deaths there in Wuhan, even though the official figure is 3,000 odd.

So when the Taoiseach was having his phone call with the Chinese premier, should he have chastised him for his handling of the virus before or after he asked for his assistance in obtaining adequate supplies of medicines, PPE, etc.?

Also, when you say that the “Chinese people believe”, I’m really curious to know which publication took the time to poll 1.4B people. Do please share your source!

Worztron

Why the hell are off licenses allowed to stay open? Essential, how?

Worztron

Regarding the 2km walk zone limit from peoples homes. I presume that if someone drove to a park/country walk area that was over 2km from home -- that'd this walk would be disallowed?

Chris_5339762

Yes, you're only supposed to walk 2km radius from home. Driving somewhere and then walking a 2km radius is not allowed.

Now, in reality, driving somewhere remote and walking is not going to hurt or infect anyone, but you shouldn't be doing it.

Brussels Sprout

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Calling Leo a langer is a bit rich, IMO. I think he has handled this very well compared to those to the right of us and over the Atlantic.

The poster you quoted appears to have created a brand new account purely for the purpose of posting that message!

Dbu

Worztron wrote: »

Why the hell are off licenses allowed to stay open? Essential, how?

You would prefer if alcohol was banned as well?

Worztron

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yes, you're only supposed to walk 2km radius from home. Driving somewhere and then walking a 2km radius is not allowed.

Now, in reality, driving somewhere remote and walking is not going to hurt or infect anyone, but you shouldn't be doing it.

Hi Chris. Yes, I thought as much.

Worztron

Dbu wrote: »

You would prefer if alcohol was banned as well?

Dbu, where did I mention that? I'm stating that OL are far from essential and should be shut for the duration of the lock-down.

whisky_galore

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Now, in reality, driving somewhere remote and walking is not going to hurt or infect anyone, but you shouldn't be doing it.

If every hoor did that we would be back to packed beauty spots like Glendalough all over again.

the beer revolu

Worztron wrote: »

Dbu, where did I mention that? I'm stating that OL are far from essential and should be shut for the duration of the lock-down.

Well, if supermarkets are allowed to sell booze, should not the off licences?

Booze is either essential or it isn't.

speedbird834

Worztron wrote: »

Why the hell are off licenses allowed to stay open? Essential, how?

Reduces pressure on supermarkets - less footfall in places like that is a good thing

opus

Defence Forces brought in to help Mercy Hospital prepare for Covid-19 surge

The Mercy is gearing up for bigger numbers ahead

JP Liz V1

the beer revolu wrote: »

Who do you think is responsible?
And what do you think should be done to rectify this?

I assume it's the responsibility of our Covid19 task force team, HSE and Dept of Health etc.,

I do wonder if anywhere here in Ireland can mass produce the kits, I believe though it was reagent that was short

I know worldwide needs kits for testing but having test centres in large cities closed with a back log already is not good

WHO is saying we should test test test but cannot when centres are closed

Ludo

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yes, you're only supposed to walk 2km radius from home. Driving somewhere and then walking a 2km radius is not allowed.

Now, in reality, driving somewhere remote and walking is not going to hurt or infect anyone, but you shouldn't be doing it.

Unfortunately it does do harm when hundreds of others have the same bright idea.

JP Liz V1

Cork 272 +17

3,849 in total now in ROI

sporina

was walking in fitzgerald's park today and 5 people out running zoomed past me.. wtf??? people are so disrespectful - was raging..

corks finest

sporina wrote: »

was walking in fitzgerald's park today and 5 people out running zoomed past me.. wtf??? people are so disrespectful - was raging..

Some silly bas*ards in Carrigaline at it also today

Pen Rua

Took a walk along the Lee Walkway (Mercy direction) in the evening. Man walking along w/gloves, keeping distance etc. He stops along the barriers of the walkway and lets out a big spit.

Outkast_IRE

Pen Rua wrote: »

Took a walk along the Lee Walkway (Mercy direction) in the evening. Man walking along w/gloves, keeping distance etc. He stops along the barriers of the walkway and lets out a big spit.

Bring back the spit shaming signs of the TB era . Its a manky habit that unfortunately is too common to see.

the beer revolu

sporina wrote: »

was walking in fitzgerald's park today and 5 people out running zoomed past me.. wtf??? people are so disrespectful - was raging..

A group of 5 people running as a group?
That's not on!

Worztron

the beer revolu wrote: »

Well, if supermarkets are allowed to sell booze, should not the off licences?

Booze is either essential or it isn't.

Booze is far from essential.

Worztron

speedbird834 wrote: »

Reduces pressure on supermarkets - less footfall in places like that is a good thing

Just highlights the pathetic relation to booze in Ireland.

the beer revolu

Worztron wrote: »

Booze is far from essential.

Well, just say it, if you think the sale of alcohol should be banned.
Otherwise you are just wringing your hands saying "it's a disgrace". (popular activity in this thread)

So, tell us what you think should happen with regards to alcohol sales?

Pen Rua

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Bring back the spit shaming signs of the TB era . Its a manky habit that unfortunately is too common to see.

Second time I've seen a person spit since COVID become more of a reality here. However, the two individuals were not persons I felt I could call out with an argument kicking off...

who_me

Hey, are there any options for home grocery delivery? I tried Tescos but there's no possibility for the next 3+ weeks. Is there any delivery service that does groceries? Or how does Click and Collect work - could I order online and maybe see if I can get a taxi driver to collect?

I've been self-isolating as a precaution (had very mild flu-like symptoms for the last few days) though I'd had very little contact with anyone for weeks before that (live alone, working from home). Have enough food for another 2-3 days but after that I'll have to risk a visit to a shop.

Update - should be all sorted, thanks!!

the beer revolu

who_me wrote: »

. Have enough food for another 2-3 days but after that I'll have to risk a visit to a shop.

Unfortunately, I think, this is you only option.

Selfish people who are perfectly able to go to the shops are taking up delivery slots that should be left for the elderly, the vulnerable and people in your situation.

seefin

who_me wrote: »

Hey, are there any options for home grocery delivery? I tried Tescos but there's no possibility for the next 3+ weeks. Is there any delivery service that does groceries? Or how does Click and Collect work - could I order online and maybe see if I can get a taxi driver to collect?

I've been self-isolating as a precaution (had very mild flu-like symptoms for the last few days) though I'd had very little contact with anyone for weeks before that (live alone, working from home). Have enough food for another 2-3 days but after that I'll have to risk a visit to a shop.

Could you ring cork city council helpline? They arrange deliveries for vulnerable etc so surely they'd do for you as self isolating.

who_me

It's funny, but (if it isn't already happening) you'd think it'd make a lot of sense to stop (most) people going to shops, and switch to delivery only.

It'd be safer for shop workers, safer for people who don't want to go to the shops, and minimum risk for the delivery people. How many taxi drivers etc. are out there with no work, it'd be a great source of income for them? I'd happily pay 10 euros once or twice a week to have my groceries delivered.

Pen Rua

who_me wrote: »

It's funny, but (if it isn't already happening) you'd think it'd make a lot of sense to stop (most) people going to shops, and switch to delivery only.

It'd be safer for shop workers, safer for people who don't want to go to the shops, and minimum risk for the delivery people. How many taxi drivers etc. are out there with no work, it'd be a great source of income for them? I'd happily pay 10 euros once or twice a week to have my groceries delivered.

There was a bit on Radio One yesterday re this.

The grocery shops can't just buy a fleet of vans. Each van should have four compartments, as I recall, being cold, frozen goods, ambient & detergent.

Whilst get taxi drivers on board is a good idea, I would suggest there is a risk there they goods will become spoiled, spillages etc. It's up to the grocery shops to decide whether the risk is acceptable & whether the taxi drivers want to take on risk of delivering perishable goods.

TBF, we already have Gardai, GAA clubs, volunteers doing this, so it is not outside realms of possibility. In this scenario, it would be the grocery stores taking on the risk.

PreCocious

Bradley's on North Main St are advertising home delivery if that helps.

Douglas Eegit

I would look local to where you are, SuperValu usually have a service and it would be local to the store itself and not a central booking system.
See if there's any independent stores near you or even Iceland. Iceland have a delivery service in the UK but i'm not sure how advanced it is in Ireland. if you've never been, Iceland is quite OK for stock and will have most of your needs

Regarding community support, I really don't know.

the beer revolu

The amount of couples shopping together is bugging the sh1te out of me.
Why are they being allowed in together?

Outkast_IRE

the beer revolu wrote: »

The amount of couples shopping together is bugging the sh1te out of me.
Why are they being allowed in together?

Honestly have no issue with this, they are in the same household. I have read alot of the rules and materials published in ireland and didnt see a restriction on it in writing. I know Spain and other places do have a restriction in place.

I think if the stores are really limiting numbers in and approaching their limit they should limit it to 1 per household so more households can access the shop. Some of the Aldis are implementing it.

sporina

who_me wrote: »

Hey, are there any options for home grocery delivery? I tried Tescos but there's no possibility for the next 3+ weeks. Is there any delivery service that does groceries? Or how does Click and Collect work - could I order online and maybe see if I can get a taxi driver to collect?

I've been self-isolating as a precaution (had very mild flu-like symptoms for the last few days) though I'd had very little contact with anyone for weeks before that (live alone, working from home). Have enough food for another 2-3 days but after that I'll have to risk a visit to a shop.

maybe you can avail of this?

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2020/0330/1127356-cork-kerry-helplines/

questionmark?

the beer revolu wrote: »

The amount of couples shopping together is bugging the sh1te out of me.
Why are they being allowed in together?

Which shops? Supervalue and Lidl have had security stopping more than one person per trolley going in and rightly so!

SleetAndSnow

Lion Killer wrote: »

Any recent information on confirmed number of positive cases in Cork?

272 is the latest figure up to 1st april.

the beer revolu

questionmark? wrote: »

Which shops? Supervalue and Lidl have had security stopping more than one person per trolley going in and rightly so!

Tesco, Paul Street and Lidl, Cornmarket Street are allowing couples in.

Worztron

the beer revolu wrote: »

Well, just say it, if you think the sale of alcohol should be banned.
Otherwise you are just wringing your hands saying "it's a disgrace". (popular activity in this thread)

So, tell us what you think should happen with regards to alcohol sales?

Your username is very apt on this occasion. Why are you twisting things? Wringing hands? I stated that I think OL should be closed during the lock-down since booze is non-essential. What part of that don't you understand?

the beer revolu

Worztron wrote: »

Your username is very apt on this occasion. Why are you twisting things? Wringing hands? I stated that I think OL should be closed during the lock-down since booze is non-essential. What part of that don't you understand?

On the back of that suggestion, I am asking you if you think that alcohol sales should be banned? Why can't you answer a reasonable question?

You do realise that supermarkets sell booze?

who_me

Pen Rua wrote: »

Whilst get taxi drivers on board is a good idea, I would suggest there is a risk there they goods will become spoiled, spillages etc. It's up to the grocery shops to decide whether the risk is acceptable & whether the taxi drivers want to take on risk of delivering perishable goods.

I don't think that'd be much of an issue if they're doing individual deliveries (i.e. they're not stuffing a taxi full of multiple orders then driving around for the day with the goods starting to go off). With no traffic on the roads, it's a quick and straight run from the shop to the person's home.

Even if everyone couldn't avail of it, it'd reduce the number of people who need to be milling around shop aisles.

Pen Rua

who_me wrote: »

I don't think that'd be much of an issue if they're doing individual deliveries (i.e. they're not stuffing a taxi full of multiple orders then driving around for the day with the goods starting to go off). With no traffic on the roads, it's a quick and straight run from the shop to the person's home.

Even if everyone couldn't avail of it, it'd reduce the number of people who need to be milling around shop aisles.

I follow you there - seems more than reasonable in such an arrangement.

Worztron

the beer revolu wrote: »

On the back of that suggestion, I am asking you if you think that alcohol sales should be banned? Why can't you answer a reasonable question?

You do realise that supermarkets sell booze?

No, but non-essential outlets should be shut for the duration of the lock-down.

Balmed Out

Worztron wrote: »

No, but non-essential outlets should be shut for the duration of the lock-down.

Went to lidl yesterday for the weekly shop and didnt get out of the car. The weekly specials of garden plants etc meant it looked busier then any Christmas. Im just back now and today there was probably 20% of the cars that were there when I was going to go yesterday. Close the off licenses and drinkers will overcrowd supermarkets.
Personally id prefer stores that can do deliveries and operate within social distancing rules for non essentials that would make leaving home less tempting to be opened such as DIY, paint, gardening suppliers.

the beer revolu

Worztron wrote: »

No, but non-essential outlets should be shut for the duration of the lock-down.

OK thanks for answering.

Would not closing some outlets but still allowing alcohol sales just mean the same number of people would be in fewer outlets - therfore more crowded?

whisky_galore

the beer revolu wrote: »

The amount of couples shopping together is bugging the sh1te out of me.
Why are they being allowed in together?

Why do they need to shop as a couple anyhow?
Ffs.
One person is well able to do a shop it's not like you're not spending enough time together at home.

mikeym

I heard the Tesco radio advert saying that the delivery service should only be used if you cant go outside or vulnerable.

I hope healthy able bodied people that can get off their backside realise that the likes of Tesco and others are extremely busy.

Att vara en hest

whisky_galore wrote: »

Why do they need to shop as a couple anyhow?
Ffs.
One person is well able to do a shop it's not like you're not spending enough time together at home.

I can only speak for myself but I go shopping with my partner. We don't have a car, which means we can only buy what we can carry and two people can carry more than one.. Going together means that we can go to the store one time per week and minimize our exposure.

Think outside the box a bit please, not everyone have the same options and lifestyle as you.