Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

Nekarsulm

wrangler wrote: »

I see a tiny percentage of children that put the virus over them with or without symptoms are getting something called PIMS.
This virus is really the gift that keeps on giving

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/our-5-year-old-is-in-icu-with-a-covid-linked-illness-40103698.html

PIMS has been around for years, but thankfully it's very rare.
Hopefully stays that way ....

charolais0153

Nekarsulm wrote: »

PIMS has been around for years, but thankfully it's very rare.
Hopefully stays that way ....

If the virus was killing kids and younger people moreso than the elderly , there'd be a different approach

Nekarsulm

charolais0153 wrote: »

If the virus was killing kids and younger people moreso than the elderly , there'd be a different approach

What approach would that be?

Perhaps if politicians and advisory board members put more emphasis on vaccinating people, and less time on talk shows.

How many done yesterday, was the figure of 5000 accurate?

charolais0153

Nekarsulm wrote: »

What approach would that be?

Perhaps if politicians and advisory board members put more emphasis on vaccinating people, and less time on talk shows.

How many done yesterday, was the figure of 5000 accurate?

Ban alcohol in shops, restaurants shouldn't have opened at Xmas, close the borders to people travelling

whelan2

Nekarsulm wrote: »

What approach would that be?

Perhaps if politicians and advisory board members put more emphasis on vaccinating people, and less time on talk shows.

How many done yesterday, was the figure of 5000 accurate?

If we're in level 5 until may that's a load of bollox. Kids here about to crack up. The goalposts keep being moved. They need to get back to some sort of normality. Was in lidl today and it was awful, whole families out shopping. Shop too busy.

wrangler

whelan2 wrote: »

If we're in level 5 until may that's a load of bollox. Kids here about to crack up. The goalposts keep being moved. They need to get back to some sort of normality. Was in lidl today and it was awful, whole families out shopping. Shop too busy.

All you can do is masks, disinfect, change clothes and shower when you get home because a lot around you are not going to respect the restrictions
It's people themselves that's moving the goalpost, nothing the government can do if people are still spreading it, The problem is people are spreading it before they know they have it, Let everyone out like christmas and it'll be like january all over again You kids are in clover with a few hundred acres under them.

whelan2

Was talking to my ai man yesterday. He got covid over Christmas. He had been here before Christmas and was telling me of all the people he knew with it. His whole extended family tested positive even his 1 year old twin grandkids. They had been together over Christmas. He didn't look well tbh.

Nekarsulm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Ban alcohol in shops, restaurants shouldn't have opened at Xmas, close the borders to people travelling

If you ban it in shops, you are banning its sale entirely.
A subject close to the hearts of some of the NPETH big wigs, apparently.
Only other option would be go with a State owned off-licence system, but that's take years to organise, not least because every shop, bar and club would fight the legislation tooth and nail.
The Government that tried to organise it would fall within a week.

We could close the borders, to air travel anyway.

But we missed the boat big time with the vaccination rollout.
UK sources their supply under EU legislation, which allows roll out of in completely tested medicine in a pandemic.
We dithered for 8 weeks and only now starting to vaccinate those 85 years+.and wonder why we can't get sufficient doses.
Our county has one general vaccination location, a hotel in Cavan town, and about 90,000 people to do.
Even if they could manage near 1000 a day, that'll take 6 months to give 2 doses.
County has dozens of sports halls, leisure centres, empty churches and warehouses that could be used.
If we can provide polling stations for everyone over the age of 18 on the same day, we could certainly do everyone over 50 over 4 or 5 days.

I was trained how to inject myself with anti-clotting agent after recent surgery.
Took the nurse about 4 minutes to show me how, and I was given a prescription for 30 syringes and away I went.

But we are looking at another 7 weeks of nightly "news" programmes with the same talking heads wheeled out, and telling us "one last push" and "we're in it together"., and then repeat for another 7, probably.
Make you want to spit with rage....

And to be honest, people are ignoring the "lockdown" now.
Shops and roads very busy, especially considering schools are closed.

Nobbies

whelan2 wrote: »

If we're in level 5 until may that's a load of bollox. Kids here about to crack up. The goalposts keep being moved. They need to get back to some sort of normality. Was in lidl today and it was awful, whole families out shopping. Shop too busy.

Oh said the very same thing to me earlier about whole families out shopping & supermarkets,some at least are not keeping tabs on numbers allowed in.

Now with brighter evening's & hopefully better weather soon, people will be out & about more & social contact will be more enevitable, regardless of the level.

Only so much,even good people will tolerate for so long. France & spain didn't enter 3rd lockdowns as they couldn't afford it.(we couldn't either,but others know better)there numbers are improving like our own now.instead they had curfews & other measures.

They messages only ever needed to be simple,instead we got inconsistencies & contradictions on many aspects this last 6 months

whelan2

There are too many chiefs, Michael martin, leo, tony holohan etc. If we had a definite timeframe to work towards it would be great. February is nearly over. I know the evenings are brighter, I bring kids to local track/ football pitch most evenings and we have gained an hour in brightness on a few weeks ago. They need to be back with their friends though

paddysdream

At 2 funerals this week and looks like people are abiding by the letter of the mask stuff but the spirit of it is a bit different.
At both 99% had a mask on but the vast majority only did so when the funeral cortege exited the church .
Many were removed after the funeral and people standing around chatting maskless. Anyone smoking had it gone obviously.
A few still shaking hands but they were definitely a tiny minority .
Big crowd at both despite the weather etc.

Looks like people hear stuff on tv/radio and think they had better wear a mask so as not to stand out but otherwise seems a waste of time.Real "look, I am doing what we were told to do " sort of a vibe but a bit pointless IMO in a windswept graveyard esp. if you do all the other things you are not supposed to do.

carrollsno1

whelan2 wrote: »

If we're in level 5 until may that's a load of bollox. Kids here about to crack up. The goalposts keep being moved. They need to get back to some sort of normality. Was in lidl today and it was awful, whole families out shopping. Shop too busy.

Construction isnt opening back up for the forseeable either, luckily were classed as essential but the clients wont start new projects until after level 5 so theres a lot of fellas kicking stones around the yard lately and i passed by one of our other fab shops today (not as essential as us) and there wasnt a spark flying anywhere and a near empty carpark there too.
We have to be able to live our lives too, whats going on at the moment isnt any good for anyone really with no socialising and the dark evenings too. Before Christmas it was all about how the vaccine will solve it all, they cant even organise the rollout of it here now. It seems as if its being delayed deliberatly at the moment.
I was always sceptical of this "pandemic" but since January ive become more and more scepitcal of it and really do think there is a bigger picture were not seeing at the moment behind it all. We were told yesterday to spare the vaccines on the young and healthy (my demographic) yesterday and send it to the vulnerable in the third world thats fair enough but if were the absolute bottom of the list now so much so that the vaccine designated for us should be shipped off to Africa well then why are we being made go through these lockdowns at the minute. It was also said yesterday 90% of the cases here at the moment are the UK variant but yet its us who went for a few pints before Christmss at fault not the government for not stopping the influx of overseas visitors before christmas.

greysides

The coronavirus is here to stay — here’s what that means
A Nature survey shows many scientists expect the virus that causes COVID-19 to become endemic, but it could pose less danger over time.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2

carrollsno1

carrollsno1 wrote: »

why are we being made go through these lockdowns at the minute.

For the same reason as the first lockdown, to prevent the health service being overwhelmed. Due to the pre Christmas Government **** up of not following the public health advice we came awfully close to a situation where there wouldn't be ICU beds being available to people who needed them.

Water John

Haven't been to a funeral in about a year, online only.

Waffletraktor

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Construction isnt opening back up for the forseeable either, luckily were classed as essential but the clients wont start new projects until after level 5 so theres a lot of fellas kicking stones around the yard lately and i passed by one of our other fab shops today (not as essential as us) and there wasnt a spark flying anywhere and a near empty carpark there too.
We have to be able to live our lives too, whats going on at the moment isnt any good for anyone really with no socialising and the dark evenings too. Before Christmas it was all about how the vaccine will solve it all, they cant even organise the rollout of it here now. It seems as if its being delayed deliberatly at the moment.
I was always sceptical of this "pandemic" but since January ive become more and more scepitcal of it and really do think there is a bigger picture were not seeing at the moment behind it all. We were told yesterday to spare the vaccines on the young and healthy (my demographic) yesterday and send it to the vulnerable in the third world thats fair enough but if were the absolute bottom of the list now so much so that the vaccine designated for us should be shipped off to Africa well then why are we being made go through these lockdowns at the minute. It was also said yesterday 90% of the cases here at the moment are the UK variant but yet its us who went for a few pints before Christmss at fault not the government for not stopping the influx of overseas visitors before christmas.

Sister would be a very highly qualified nurse.
Any nurses since late Jan going for tests in her hoispital are external close contacts and no positive cases. No positive cases amoung any staff that's had 2 doses's of vaccine. christmass week until 3rd week of Jan they were on target of heading for 1/3 of the staff being infected and absent....
They got to the stage of not bothering to ventilate some as icu beds were needed for others with a better chance of survival, they could tell who and when they would die with a good degree of accuracy. When people were removed from their oxygen to eat or go to the toilet they were falling of a cliff in a handful of minutes, often needing a team to come rescue someone who previously was OK going into the toilet. Generally anyone with a big belly and/or heart issue's are fooked.
Normal service is only starting to return now, many will die due to missed screenings.

paddysdream

Water John wrote: »

Haven't been to a funeral in about a year, online only.

To be honest haven't missed one that I would have normally attended since all this started .
First one was Easter Sunday last year .That was family only in church and smaller than usual crowd in graveyard.
All then rest were normal enough size.Think some during the year had less restrictive numbers inside church but was only inside at ceremony for 2 all year.
Then again that would be pretty normal for local day funerals even pre covid ie most just go to removal (thats gone for most in the last year ) or go to graveyard for burial .

Reggie.

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Sister would be a very highly qualified nurse.
Any nurses since late Jan going for tests in her hoispital are external close contacts and no positive cases. No positive cases amoung any staff that's had 2 doses's of vaccine. christmass week until 3rd week of Jan they were on target of heading for 1/3 of the staff being infected and absent....
They got to the stage of not bothering to ventilate some as icu beds were needed for others with a better chance of survival, they could tell who and when they would die with a good degree of accuracy. When people were removed from their oxygen to eat or go to the toilet they were falling of a cliff in a handful of minutes, often needing a team to come rescue someone who previously was OK going into the toilet. Generally anyone with a big belly and/or heart issue's are fooked.
Normal service is only starting to return now, many will die due to missed screenings.

Big belly......well that's me goosed

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Big belly......well that's me goosed

Same here....... and bad heart. it won't be even worth phoning for the ambulance when I get it

kollegeknight

Reggie. wrote: »

Big belly......well that's me goosed

Not necessarily. The biggest lad in our village got it and I said, that’s him gone and it has no effect on him. His healthier brother had a worse time of it. One of my sisters is huge and in the dangerous category. She started walking and I’d day she has at least 30kg lost in 2 years. Still heavy but looking great and getting there. She has started a small bit of running now. Since I’ve started running I’m down to 102kg. I’ve nothing lost in months but visibly my belly is getting smaller. I must start measuring to prove it.

My sister is a nurse in London, she got it last April and hasn’t been able to back to work. She has mild symptoms except one day. She never tested positive. She now las long term issues from it. She hasn’t been allowed back to work. She can’t go out in cold weather at moment as she can’t get her breath. Has to buy a thread mill to walk indoors to try build up her lungs.

Waffletraktor

Reggie. wrote: »

Big belly......well that's me goosed

It's not the belly that's the issue it's your body being able to lie prone face down for most of the day for a week+ and being able to stand it. People who end up on oxygen in hospital sometimes can't bare the strain and in the majority it was people carrying their weight around the midrift as their belly pushed into their chest cavity.
I'm sure there's someone with a better answer as above's only 2nd hand info.

Nekarsulm

Deep foam mattress with hollow scooped out to hold the belly, not have it forcing up towards the chest cavity?

patsy_mccabe

Very elderly relative tested positive 2 days ago in local hospice. Family called in yesterday, as he got really bad. Most of the hospice have now tested positive.
Crazy thing is, procedures with proper PPE have been followed for months. Its bad enough to be going tru all this without having to do all the covid stuff on top of it all.

I haven't seen him in months either and we always got on great. Take care folks.

lucernarian

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Very elderly relative tested positive 2 days ago in local hospice. Family called in yesterday, as he got really bad. Most of the hospice have now tested positive.
Crazy thing is, procedures with proper PPE have been followed for months. Its bad enough to be going tru all this without having to do all the covid stuff on top of it all.

I haven't seen him in months either and we always got on great. Take care folks.

I thought we were at the point of having the hospices all vaccinated now. Sorry to hear it.

There's a lot of box-ticking going with proceedures and rules that were drawn up back in April, though with what's been published in scientific journals there's a huge importance to have good ventilation and windows always open etc.... Bits of perspex at shop counters don't cut it at all.

Castlekeeper

Waffletraktor wrote: »

It's not the belly that's the issue it's your body being able to lie prone face down for most of the day for a week+ and being able to stand it. People who end up on oxygen in hospital sometimes can't bare the strain and in the majority it was people carrying their weight around the midrift as their belly pushed into their chest cavity.
I'm sure there's someone with a better answer as above's only 2nd hand info.

Sure cut a hole in the bed for it...
Sorry, it is an awful affliction, the covid I mean ... not the belly... well the belly too ...
I'll stop.

whelan2

Kids off school here on Monday for an in service day. Hot their reports in the post yesterday. Daughter's is great as per usual. Young lads was terrible. It was great at Christmas. Online learning isn't working for him at all. Sooner schools reopen the better

148multi

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Very elderly relative tested positive 2 days ago in local hospice. Family called in yesterday, as he got really bad. Most of the hospice have now tested positive.
Crazy thing is, procedures with proper PPE have been followed for months. Its bad enough to be going tru all this without having to do all the covid stuff on top of it all.

I haven't seen him in months either and we always got on great. Take care folks.

This is the main reason for the lockdown to protect vulnerable people and stop the hospitals being overrun, if we can't do this for the people who brought us into this world and worked hard to rear us, and other vulnerable people we need to ask ourselves some very stiff questions.

148multi

148multi wrote: »

This is the main reason for the lockdown to protect vulnerable people and stop the hospitals being overrun, if we can't do this for the people who brought us into this world and worked hard to rear us, and other vulnerable people we need to ask ourselves some very stiff questions.

There's a disposable attitude towards old people in some out there, like they're just a weight or a cost. My Dad told me what he remembered of living here when WW2 was on, rationing and things like that. People now are soft as ****.

wrangler

Deleted User wrote: »

There's a disposable attitude towards old people in some out there, like they're just a weight or a cost. My Dad told me what he remembered of living here when WW2 was on, rationing and things like that. People now are soft as ****.

I can't understand the concern for young people, five years is nothing out of there lives, yet they're blowing fuses over a year or two being messed up. 100 years ago their age group were going ''over the top'' in WW1 trenches

whelan2

148multi wrote: »

This is the main reason for the lockdown to protect vulnerable people and stop the hospitals being overrun, if we can't do this for the people who brought us into this world and worked hard to rear us, and other vulnerable people we need to ask ourselves some very stiff questions.

Did you see the video from a mosque in Dublin yesterday. Over 100 people coming out of it , no masks....