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Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    31 new deaths today and 911 new cases. Are those new cases some of the delayed tests sent abroad for testing, I wonder?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/coronavirus-death-toll-now-at-365-as-case-numbers-reach-10647-993798.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    31 new deaths today and 911 new cases. Are those new cases some of the delayed tests sent abroad for testing, I wonder?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/coronavirus-death-toll-now-at-365-as-case-numbers-reach-10647-993798.html
    527 of them are new cases from Irish labs and 465 are from Germany.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,389 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If the backlog is cleared by next week then, the confirmed positive figures each day will give us a more accurate picture, followed eventually by a drop in deaths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭alps


    If the lockdown has done its job, there should be a massive decline in positives this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Nothing on TV so I watched Trumps press briefing on CNN. The man is bat **** crazy! Ignorance is twice as dangerous as knowledge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Worrying news coming out of South Korea 2nite - at least 150 cases of Covid "re-infection" have been found in the last few days. Also some evidence that the virus is starting to act like AIDS in that it appears to be able to destroy T-Cells that are the basis of immunity to such things in the human body.:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Nothing on TV so I watched Trumps press briefing on CNN. The man is bat **** crazy! Ignorance is twice as dangerous as knowledge.

    Trump is a genius compared to the thug running Brazil atm - Bolsanaro refuses to implement any measures to curb the virus and there is now evidence that the mounting infection rate there my be under estimated by up to 10 times due to the lack of testing. Also the indiginous tribes of the Amazon are at growing risk as the infection approaches their territories via illegal miners and ranchers destroying the rainforest on their reservations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    And this one from the US.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/charlotte-woman-hasnt-left-her-house-in-three-weeks-but-tested-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB12sjy4?ocid=st

    The only contact she had was picking up some shopping, without using gloves, left for her by a neighbour who later tested positive.

    Covid-19 is a highly contagious disease. Crazy to think that just over four months ago, the disease was breaking in just one City in China. It has now spread to practically every country in the world - with nearly 2 million confirmed cases and god knows how many not confirmed and we are no where like even near finished with the current outbreak.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Worrying news coming out of South Korea 2nite - at least 150 cases of Covid "re-infection" have been found in the last few days. Also some evidence that the virus is starting to act like AIDS in that it appears to be able to destroy T-Cells that are the basis of immunity to such things in the human body.:(

    Acting like other coronavirus's would probably be more accurate than the aids comparison but wouldn't cause as much fear


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I suppose the big question is - are people dying with the virus or dying because of the virus?
    I see Irish figures are not exactly going down. Long road ahead yet. :mad:

    Family friend of mine,died because of it,old but no under-lying conditions that would be fatal

    Poor man couldnt hardly speak etc with few days,horrible horrible disease,and now not even a funeral/send off for him


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Acting like other coronavirus's would probably be more accurate than the aids comparison but wouldn't cause as much fear

    There's more and more strange effects from this coming to light every day. There's evidence there that clearing the virus is no guarantee of being virus free, that it may lie benign for a period and resurface again, like shingles.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/who-officials-say-its-unclear-whether-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-to-second-infection.html

    There's also evidence of long term effects on other organs in the body besides the lungs. The heart, liver and nervous system and possibly the brain may have damage from this virus as well.

    https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-10/coronavirus-infection-can-do-lasting-damage-to-the-heart-liver


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    There's more and more strange effects from this coming to light every day. There's evidence there that clearing the virus is no guarantee of being virus free, that it may lie benign for a period and resurface again, like shingles.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/who-officials-say-its-unclear-whether-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-to-second-infection.html

    There's also evidence of long term effects on other organs in the body besides the lungs. The heart, liver and nervous system and possibly the brain may have damage from this virus as well.

    https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-10/coronavirus-infection-can-do-lasting-damage-to-the-heart-liver

    https://europepmc.org/article/med/3032023

    Lots of the strange effects are fairly standard for coronavirus, the central nervous system effects are no different.
    Search around on Google scholar but go into advanced search and look for studies before 2020 to look for pre covid 19 studies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭alps


    Listening to the News that Mary Lou has been misfortunate to catch the virus, and wondering, as I havnt heard of any yet, if any farmers have..

    Then it struck me....maybe we have the right protection
    ..

    https://youtu.be/waKaXuSpWOQ


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    Nothing on TV so I watched Trumps press briefing on CNN. The man is bat **** crazy! Ignorance is twice as dangerous as knowledge.

    I agree.
    Plus he caries on like a parrot...keeping repeating himself.
    I think it is time the "men in white coats" paid him a visit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Full time farmers can claim Covid-19 unemployment payment under certain circumstances. Link to IFJ article explaining -
    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/full-time-farmers-can-claim-covid-19-payments-ifa-540227


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,564 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Base price wrote: »
    Full time farmers can claim Covid-19 unemployment payment under certain circumstances. Link to IFJ article explaining -
    https://www.farmersjournal.ie/full-time-farmers-can-claim-covid-19-payments-ifa-540227
    Good to see it clarified.

    Lots of these payments will be clawed back in full or part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    There's a possibility of a vaccine being available in as little as 8 months for frontline healthcare workers and a few months after for rest of us.
    https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1250228871892545537?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭alps


    How can we be having 657 new cases 18 days after a full lockdown, especially when we are being told the R figure is under 1?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    alps wrote: »
    How can we be having 657 new cases 18 days after a full lockdown, especially when we are being told the R figure is under 1?

    Testing wasn't keeping up so sending all those tests away to germany has distorted the results


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,564 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    alps wrote: »
    How can we be having 657 new cases 18 days after a full lockdown, especially when we are being told the R figure is under 1?

    Nursing homes amd care institutions would be notoriously hard to control infections within.

    Figures to date would show 25% being medical staff.

    Probably allot of Asymptomatic carriers within the working population infecting people without realising it.

    Take aways are jammed full all over, they should have been shut same as restaurants

    Lots of pubs flouting the rules too,


    It’s bugging me that nursing homes are giving the opinion that the HSE is letting them down. These are private ran profit enterprises responsible for their own ppe and staff. They have a terrivle reputation for poor staffing and cutting corners.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,511 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    _Brian wrote: »
    Nursing homes amd care institutions would be notoriously hard to control infections within.

    Figures to date would show 25% being medical staff.

    Probably allot of Asymptomatic carriers within the working population infecting people without realising it.

    Take aways are jammed full all over, they should have been shut same as restaurants

    Lots of pubs flouting the rules too,


    It’s bugging me that nursing homes are giving the opinion that the HSE is letting them down. These are private ran profit enterprises responsible for their own ppe and staff. They have a terrivle reputation for poor staffing and cutting corners.

    Any takeaway I have been to are adhering to the rules.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    There's a possibility of a vaccine being available in as little as 8 months for frontline healthcare workers and a few months after for rest of us.
    https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1250228871892545537?s=19

    Be very wary of a rushed vaccine. If corners are cut, the vaccine could be more deadly than the disease...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭alps


    wrangler wrote: »
    Testing wasn't keeping up so sending all those tests away to germany has distorted the results

    If you include the German figures, it takes our total to over 1000..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    alps wrote: »
    If you include the German figures, it takes our total to over 1000..

    More tests, more positives.

    In a true epidemic, the total amount of people with symptoms grows exponentially and the percentage of positive tests also increases exponentially.

    In the case of coronavirus, the only times changes in the percentage of positive tests has been when selection criteria has been changed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭emaherx


    More tests, more positives.

    In a true epidemic, the total amount of people with symptoms grows exponentially and the percentage of positive tests also increases exponentially.

    In the case of coronavirus, the only times changes in the percentage of positive tests has been when selection criteria has been changed.

    Death rate is up even Euromomo is showing that and it's far from over.
    https://www.euromomo.eu/

    The latest pooled estimates from the EuroMOMO network show a marked increase in excess all-cause mortality overall for the participating European countries, related to the COVID-19 pandemic. This overall excess mortality is driven by a very substantial excess mortality in some countries, primarily seen in the age group of 65 years and above, but also in the age group of 15-64 years.

    Data from 24 participating countries or regions were included in this week’s pooled analysis of all-cause mortality in Europe.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    I agree.
    Plus he caries on like a parrot...keeping repeating himself.
    I think it is time the "men in white coats" paid him a visit.

    You have to hand it to him and pulling the funding was a fantastic stroke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    emaherx wrote: »
    Death rate is up even Euromomo is showing that and it's far from over.
    https://www.euromomo.eu/

    The euromomo figures indicate that a minimum of 50% of "coronavirus deaths" are deaths with a coronavirus positive.
    Unless all of the antibody surveys carried out so far are all totally wrong (they all suggest that the virus has traveled much further than the official figures do), we will still end up with a mortality figure that is within the expected range for any winter.
    Which considering the consternation caused by severely understaffed hospitals and nursing homes due to staff being forced to isolate, is no mean feat. Across Europe the percentage of Corona deaths in nursing homes is between 45-55% of total coronavirus deaths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    More tests, more positives.

    In a true epidemic, the total amount of people with symptoms grows exponentially and the percentage of positive tests also increases exponentially.

    In the case of coronavirus, the only times changes in the percentage of positive tests has been when selection criteria has been changed.

    This is an epidemic.

    Hopefully we have slowed the speed of it's spread.

    The test result figures are broadly irrelevant at this stage. The German results should have been allocated to the day the test was taken, they stretch back to mid March. Adding them in to the day they get the results distorts the figures.

    We have no idea of the true number of cases anymore. At this stage testing should be reserved to testing all hse staff, maybe twice weekly and people being admitted to hospitals to segregate them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    As of 8 o'clock this morning 245 of the 444 deaths recorded have been in nursing and residential homes so 55%.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    Between 50 and 70 percent of homes are not infected yet.


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