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Reggie.

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizers-ceo-dumps-60-his-stock-covid-vaccine-announcement

The plot thickens

Water John

That's a good find Sam. He must know that they will be overtaken by the Oxford
AstraZeneca vaccine. A lot cheaper, no deep refrigeration.

alps

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizers-ceo-dumps-60-his-stock-covid-vaccine-announcement

There can be many reasons for cashing in shares...options/taxes/losses offset elsewhere. Would it say if he bought them back again...

Donegalforever

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Belgian health care system only 10 days from collapse.
https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1323196183578316800?s=19

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizers-ceo-dumps-60-his-stock-covid-vaccine-announcement

The question is did he want to make a fortune or is he nervous for some reason?

Water John

Could possibly be that he couldn't cash in prior to press release as that would have been insider trading, being generous there.

_Brian

alps wrote: »

There can be many reasons for cashing in shares...options/taxes/losses offset elsewhere. Would it say if he bought them back again...

Bed and breakfast the shares, that’s called. Selling and rebuying for tax avoidance don’t remember how it worked exactly. I never held onto many shares,

We had a share options scheme where you were guaranteed minimum 15% profit but a few times it was 50% when the shares were climbing strong. I always moved them on.

enricoh

Donegalforever wrote: »

The question is did he want to make a fortune or is he nervous for some reason?

Hmm ,it's bad optics though! I think I'll keep my e20 under the matress!

Water John

Presume they were bonus shares he would have been granted at a discount. Selling and buying as you say might then be a tax wheeze.

greysides

While we argue the numbers and the policies, this is what is happening in the ICUs:

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-you-are-literally-fighting-for-your-breath-inside-intensive-care-unit-battling-deadly-second-wave-12130038

greysides

Surgical masks can be washed 10 times before they lose their filtration ability.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Disposable-masks-can-be-reused-and-washed-up-to-10-times-says-French-group-UFC-Que-Choisir

yosemitesam1

Water John wrote: »

Could possibly be that he couldn't cash in prior to press release as that would have been insider trading, being generous there.

Obviously he was waiting for the press release and the resulting 20% surge in price before selling. Nice money if ya could get it.
He wouldn't have been selling 62% of his Pfizer stock just to manage a bit of a tax liability, that was cashing in on a big portion of his chips

_Brian

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Obviously he was waiting for the press release and the resulting 20% surge in price before selling. Nice money if ya could get it.
He wouldn't have been selling 62% of his Pfizer stock just to manage a bit of a tax liability, that was cashing in on a big portion of his chips

Can’t blame a guy for making money. He didn’t make anyone buy the shares and the shares were his own. I can’t see a problem.

yosemitesam1

_Brian wrote: »

Can’t blame a guy for making money. He didn’t make anyone buy the shares and the shares were his own. I can’t see a problem.

Lol, the whole thing stinks.
Big pharma has massive influence in academia and on policy makers and you don't think that just maybe they might have taken a little advantage of this to guarantee a big payday regardless of whether a vaccine that actually works well in practice is produced

Panch18

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Lol, the whole thing stinks.
Big pharma has massive influence in academia and on policy makers and you don't think that just maybe they might have taken a little advantage of this to guarantee a big payday regardless of whether a vaccine that actually works well in practice is produced

That stinks to absolute high heavens

Huge new announcement litterally hours before this guy sells 60% of his holding at a 52 week high price and the shares have been falling again since

We are all just suckers

blue5000

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201009-could-social-distancing-make-the-flu-extinct


Looks like all this social distancing has reduced the spread of flu.

yosemitesam1

Very much looks like numbers are flattening off. Wonder where that will leave us with restrictions for Christmas...

Water John

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Very much looks like numbers are flattening off. Wonder where that will leave us with restrictions for Christmas...

Level 2 or 3?

Fred Daly

I was talking to a haulier he said he usually uses six extra curtainsiders coming up to christmas he said there is no work for them nothing moving.

blue5000

Fred Daly wrote: »

I was talking to a haulier he said he usually uses six extra curtainsiders coming up to christmas he said there is no work for them nothing moving.

I suggest that business has changed forever, he should buy a few transit vans and start a courier business, we spent more online than in retail shops for the first time last month.

_Brian

See AnPost are struggling with the Amazon deliveries. Anything above envelope sized is likely to be delayed.

Have had three parcels so late they were refunded. They left the U.K. but AnPost haven’t registered them so Amazon just offer a refund.

We have 99% of the Christmas shop done now. Be mostly food from here on in.

odyssey06

_Brian wrote: »

See AnPost are struggling with the Amazon deliveries. Anything above envelope sized is likely to be delayed.
Have had three parcels so late they were refunded. They left the U.K. but AnPost haven’t registered them so Amazon just offer a refund.
We have 99% of the Christmas shop done now. Be mostly food from here on in.

You aren't alone re: An Post delays... multiple reports on this thread.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115282447#post115282447

whelan2

I dont think it's just amazon orders, an post have been delivering parcels on a Saturday here for the last few months to keep on top of things.

whelan2

Over 3 weeks into level 5 lockdown and cases creeping up again

yosemitesam1

whelan2 wrote: »

Over 3 weeks into level 5 lockdown and cases creeping up again

Thank fcuk the government ignored nphet and delayed going to l5, otherwise it would be much more difficult to make the case for easing restrictions

CloughCasey1

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Thank fcuk the government ignored nphet and delayed going to l5, otherwise it would be much more difficult to make the case for easing restrictions

Thats a fact. First two weeks of this lockdown the roads were quiet enough. Its back to level 2 busy now again. People are immune to lockdowns but not covid. Covid cases now were contracted approx 2 weeks ago. Next 2 weeks could end talks of level 3, never mind 2.

_Brian

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Thats a fact. First two weeks of this lockdown the roads were quiet enough. Its back to level 2 busy now again. People are immune to lockdowns but not covid. Covid cases now were contracted approx 2 weeks ago. Next 2 weeks could end talks of level 3, never mind 2.

That’s a failure of society but not poor advice from nephet.

If government gave out amd people properly followed nephet advice then the covid landscape would be very different.

The advice is good. The on the ground adherence is the weak link.

zerosugarbuzz

_Brian wrote: »

That’s a failure of society but not poor advice from nephet.

If government gave out amd people properly followed nephet advice then the covid landscape would be very different.

The advice is good. The on the ground adherence is the weak link.

That is because of the simple facts Brian. Very few dying, those who are are very old and ill anyway. News reporting “6 more deaths Occurred in November “associated with” whatever that means, Covid. Lots of people positive with no symptoms. The fear has simply gone out of this pandemic for a lot of us. I actually genuinely pity people still wrapped up their anguish.

yosemitesam1

_Brian wrote: »

That’s a failure of society but not poor advice from nephet.

If government gave out amd people properly followed nephet advice then the covid landscape would be very different.

The advice is good. The on the ground adherence is the weak link.

How much of a difference in spread do you think there is between a level 3 and 5?
Non essential shopping and gyms etc were likely causing a very small amount of infection at most. It very much appears that level 3 with no schools would have given superior control to level 5 with schools. The timing of this bottoming off/increase fits very well with the midterm break....

_Brian

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

That is because of the simple facts Brian. Very few dying, those who are are very old and ill anyway. News reporting “6 more deaths Occurred in November “associated with” whatever that means, Covid. Lots of people positive with no symptoms. The fear has simply gone out of this pandemic for a lot of us. I actually genuinely pity people still wrapped up their anguish.

It’s a completely ridiculous position to try explain away people’s early deaths because they had an underlying condition or are older. Many people dying would otherwise have been expected to live another 5-10 years in many cases.

Creating a “them and us” division where you devalue someone else’s life as disposable so you can live “normally” is just disgusting.

wrangler

_Brian wrote: »

That’s a failure of society but not poor advice from nephet.

If government gave out amd people properly followed nephet advice then the covid landscape would be very different.

The advice is good. The on the ground adherence is the weak link.

Very poor form on everyone's part that it's revving up again.
You hear people on about Christmas, it's a joke ,It seems they can't give Christmas it a miss for one year while the rest of us fools stay at home , lose jobs, close businesses,
I hope the government make it miserable for the Emigrants returning,