Galway COVID-19, local news and discussion

what_traffic

Did I just hear correctly from Cllr Niall McNiallis on RTE Radio 1 "Drivetime" this evening that there was 8(eight) Gardai on duty last night in Galway City?

Glenomra

Do I need a military pass to get into Charlie byrnes?

Arghus

Glenomra wrote: »

Do I need a military pass to get into Charlie byrnes?

No you need to come back when it's actually open.

gordongekko

what_traffic wrote: »

Did I just hear correctly from Cllr Niall McNiallis on RTE Radio 1 "Drivetime" this evening that there was 8(eight) Gardai on duty last night in Galway City?

Well that's not true. While the lowest number it gets to is pathetically low, if there was only that number due into work leave would be cancelled to get the numbers up.

saabsaab

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The above post demonstrates complete ignorance of the role of the DF, but I'm not surprised considering who the poster is.

The defense forces in this state have been used to cover bus strikes, bin strikes bank money transfers etc etc. This virus is a threat to the state and their deployment is not unreasonable.

zell12

what_traffic wrote: »

Did I just hear correctly from Cllr Niall McNiallis on RTE Radio 1 "Drivetime" this evening that there was 8(eight) Gardai on duty last night in Galway City?

Was not listening, but it is very possible
This news report mentions six garda at the scene for one hour, though it also mentions that the garda said 'up to 80 people' were at the Spanish Arch at 9pm

Dúirt na Gardaí cé go raibh suas le ceithre scór duine bailithe ansin thart ar 9 chlog nach raibh sé chomh dona agus a bhí ráite ar na meáin shóisialta agus go raibh seisear Gardaí ar an láthair ar feadh uair a chloig go dtí go raibh an slua scaipithe.
https://www.rte.ie/rnag/nuacht-gaeltachta/2020/0929/1168209-nuacht-an-iarthair-29-mean-fomhair/

Gadgetman496

363 new cases & one death

154 cases are in Dublin, 40 in Cork, 23 in Donegal, 16 in Wexford, 15 in Roscommon, 14 in Galway, 14 in Monaghan, 11 in Kildare, 11 in Meath, 11 in Wicklow, 9 in Limerick, 6 in Clare, 5 in Mayo, 5 in Tipperary with the remaining 29 cases in 9 counties

saabsaab

CruelSummer wrote: »

Nox is having a field day today on here I see. People out socialising & disobeying the rules! Let’s go full on China & authoritarian. Every post is always filled with this suggestion.

1. How many cases are in hospital right now in Galway diagnosed with Covid 19?
2. How many are symptomatic? As anyone I’ve heard of being a case doesn’t even have symptoms.
3. How many are in ICU in Galway?
4. If you look at Galway’s case incidence, it’s not that bad. Why all the jumping up & down about it?
5. Why would any civilised society want to relinquish their rights & incite violence and societal breakdown with talk of the army on streets.
People need to take personal responsibility for themselves in the current situation.

Where is the HSE’s extra capacity for the winter if this virus is worth destroying our lives over?

This virus kills people. Your arguments are similar to the ones advanced back in February saying that there were few cases outside China and we now know how that played out. It is clear that some are not going to take responsibility and will need to be forced to comply.

hynesie08

hynesie08 wrote: »

I assume NUIG have expelled every student who drank on the streets during rag week then? Cause if not they have no power to do it now.

What are you rambling on about? How do you mean they "dont have the power"? Of course they have the power to expel a student if they wish, who is going to stop them or has the right to stop them?

CruelSummer

saabsaab wrote: »

This virus kills people. Your arguments are similar to the ones advanced back in February saying that there were few cases outside China and we now know how that played out. It is clear that some are not going to take responsibility and will need to be forced to comply.

It’s now 7 months into the pandemic, all the forecasting models thankfully were wrong & overestimated the death rate. We know a lot more about this virus now & its risk factors. That should be the focus of the message NPHET and the media. Not this hyperbolic fear mongering on a daily basis.

serfboard

CruelSummer wrote: »

It’s now 7 months into the pandemic, all the forecasting models thankfully were wrong & overestimated the death rate. We know a lot more about this virus now & its risk factors. That should be the focus of the message NPHET and the media. Not this hyperbolic fear mongering on a daily basis.

The death rate may have been underestimated, but the long-term effects (including heart damage) were not known about and therefore not estimated at all.

hynesie08

Fernando Muscular Sibilant wrote: »

What are you rambling on about? How do you mean they "dont have the power"? Of course they have the power to expel a student if they wish, who is going to stop them or has the right to stop them?

They're not going to expel anyone nox, get your head around it.

Expelling a student requires a lot more than just deciding to do it, despite what they might try and tell you on the news.

How long would you have lasted in college if they were expelling people for public drinking? Sure you said yourself there's no law against it....

Wombatman

Armoured cars and tanks and guns, came to take away our sons....

hynesie08

Wombatman wrote: »

Armoured cars and tanks and guns, came to take away our sons....

But every man should stand behind, the students on the tear.....

saabsaab

Wombatman wrote: »

Armoured cars and tanks and guns, came to take away our sons....

That's sexist!

jammiedodgers

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Closing Spanish Arch/Shop Street etc is only going to drive people to house parties.
The real issue is people are not following the basic advice - reduce your contacts as much as you can.
Professor Nolan said in one of the press conferences last week if everyone reduced thier social contacts by 50% the R number would drop below 1 very quickly. But people aren't doing this so we implement further restrictions that nobody will follow once again until we're forced to go back into a lockdown.

You’re right it’s all about personal responsibility. But we know young people just out of school going to college are likely to gather in groups- so this is predictable behaviour and we can give out about them or do something practical- encourage them to meet outside their homes to avoid home parties but in a measured way

hynesie08

hynesie08 wrote: »

They're not going to expel anyone nox, get your head around it.

Expelling a student requires a lot more than just deciding to do it, despite what they might try and tell you on the news.

How long would you have lasted in college if they were expelling people for public drinking? Sure you said yourself there's no law against it....

There wasn’t a serious global pandemic happening when I was in university, you might not be taking it seriously but most of the rest of the country is.

There would be massive support for expelling students who are endangering lives and contributing to job losses etc like is happening now.

What has drinking on the street got to do with it it’s being expelled for breaking public health guidelines.

_Whimsical_

They said on Drive Time that the VP of NUIG said they will not consider expulsions as a punishment for house parties.
Where's the disincentive then??

The priest from the Claddagh Church said he stopped 100 people using the church ground as a toilet in 1 hr and that they used local houses instead then.
It's just depraved. Using a public toilet isn't safe atm, imagine having that in your garden.

If NUIG doesn't feel like expulsions are necessary I really wonder what sort of people they are happy to churn out as graduates.

Arghus

Fernando Muscular Sibilant wrote: »

There wasn’t a serious global pandemic happening when I was in university, you might not be taking it seriously but most of the rest of the country is.

There would be massive support for expelling students who are endangering lives and contributing to job losses etc like is happening now.

What has drinking on the street got to do with it it’s being expelled for breaking public health guidelines.

I don't think there's actually widespread support just yet for expelling students. I don't agree with their actions in any way and I can completely understand why people are pissed off, but, I think you might be overestimating how much people want to actually see students expelled.

Hulk Hands

Arghus wrote: »

I'm afraid it's not nonsense. Look at Galway's numbers over the last two weeks. Have you not being paying attention?

You said that Galway City is at a tipping point, when Galway counties incidence rate today is 2/5th that of Dublin's, and 1/3rd that of the worst rates in the country. The city's incidence rate is one of the lowest in the country, based on the last data point we have available. We don't know any further than a number of 26 per 100k.

Are you just guessing or something or are you actually looking at the numbers before you partake in hyperbole?

saabsaab

Arghus wrote: »

I don't think there's actually widespread support just yet for expelling students. I don't agree with their actions in any way and I can completely understand why people are pissed off, but, I think you might be overestimating how much people want to actually see students expelled.

I don't think so. Many would like to see some expelled to set an example to the others.

hynesie08

Fernando Muscular Sibilant wrote: »

There wasn’t a serious global pandemic happening when I was in university, you might not be taking it seriously but most of the rest of the country is.

I'm happy that you know exactly how you would have acted 18 years ago if coronavirus existed, cause I don't....

There would be massive support for expelling students who are endangering lives and contributing to job losses etc like is happening now.

There would also be massive support for not destroying 18 year olds lives (which college is for them now) over 1 mistake..

Also support doesn't change procedure, it's not easy to kick someone out of college.....

What has drinking on the street got to do with it it’s being expelled for breaking public health guidelines.

There's no law against either, and if breaking guidelines = expulsions, colleges would be empty.....

Anyway they're not getting expelled, save your anger for another day.......

Arghus

Hulk Hands wrote: »

You said that Galway City is at a tipping point, when Galway counties incidence rate today is 2/5th that of Dublin's, and 1/3rd that of the worst rates in the country. The city's incidence rate is one of the lowest in the country, based on the last data point we have available. We don't know any further than a number of 26 per 100k.

Are you just guessing or something or are you actually looking at the numbers before you partake in hyperbole?

Galway had one of the lowest incidence rates in the country for the majority of the pandemic, but over the last few weeks it has begun to feature amongst the counties with the highest daily totals. Galway used to be mentioned regularly in the "others" category - when the daily total was between 1-3, but we've been clocking up a noticeably increased number of cases as of late. I honestly don't know how you are debating this - look at the case numbers over the last couple of weeks, days of 10, 12, 15, 21, 22. There's been a few days when we've been literally one had case less than Donegal.

We never used to post numbers like this. What are you arguing about? Galway's numbers are clearly going up. There's a reason why Galway has been mentioned along with a few other counties as being a concern - it isn't just been said for the craic.

Add to that the pretty large influx of population into the city right about now and the scenes we've seen over the last 24 hours, yeah, I would say Galway City is at a tipping point in regards to Covid numbers. I don't know how you can argue different to be honest. That's not hyberbole.

gordongekko

Hulk Hands wrote: »

You said that Galway City is at a tipping point, when Galway counties incidence rate today is 2/5th that of Dublin's, and 1/3rd that of the worst rates in the country. The city's incidence rate is one of the lowest in the country, based on the last data point we have available. We don't know any further than a number of 26 per 100k.

Are you just guessing or something or are you actually looking at the numbers before you partake in hyperbole?

The correct number is 65 per 100k your figure is way out of date

cuculainn

Maybe it's time to take a different approach and actually organise outdoor events where young people can go and drink and socialize safely.......a bit like handing out free condoms to prevent the spread of STD's...????

Psychlops

hynesie08 wrote: »

What grounds would they be expelled on??

Being arses? I wonder how many of them want to be Doctors?

Hulk Hands

gordongekko wrote: »

The correct number is 65 per 100k your figure is way out of date

Link? Haven't seen localised figures mentioned since last week

Even if it is, 2/5ths that of Dublin which is getting on fine. We're hardly on the precipice of Bergamo in February. "Tipping point". Hardly

Arghus

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Link? Haven't seen localised figures mentioned since last week

Even if it is, 2/5ths that of Dublin which is getting on fine. We're hardly on the precipice of Bergamo in February. "Tipping point". Hardly

Hold your horses there. You were accusing me of engaging in hyperbole there earlier - You're doing a fair bit of it there yourself.

I'm not talking about Bergamo in February: that's an exaggeration of my point. The tipping point I was referring to was whether we'll have to go to level three in restrictions.

saabsaab

Laois was on level 3 at 70.

extra gravy

CruelSummer wrote: »

It’s now 7 months into the pandemic, all the forecasting models thankfully were wrong & overestimated the death rate.

How do you still not get that the death rate isn't higher because of the preventative measures taken? Honestly, it's no wonder we're fcuked again when this kind of stupidity is still being spouted.