Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

reg114

If the schools close , it means they will have to close creches for the same reason .. alot of people are going to go out of business. If this takes hold we are really looking at a recession in a matter of months. The knock on effects on everyday life will be huge.

gabeeg

Ger Roe wrote: »

Full info on what to do if you think you have symptoms is here :

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

Please look and follow.

I'm just back from Madrid, I have a fever and I'm developing a cough.

That website has no info that pertains to me. What do I do now?

Cw85

56 in the UK, I can see Ireland having 2-4 again which would be nice and positive and more looking like its very well contained

Rob A. Bank

Strazdas wrote: »

My point is that the response should be measured in correlation to risk. I've no issue at all with the parades being cancelled if that is what the HSE decide, ditto if schools are closed soon.

The Govt here cannot just move straight to nationwide lockdown today without even being able to quantify the risk to the country.

Just look at what is happening in the other countries who were infected before we were !!!

Cupatae

flynnlives wrote: »

So all the confirmations around the country are about to start.

Have the church decided on the prudent move to postpone all confirmations that are upcoming?

I think its absolute madness if they go ahead with em.

completedit

reg114 wrote: »

If the schools close , it means they will have to close creches for the same reason .. alot of people are going to go out of business. If this takes hold we are really looking at a recession in a matter of months. The knock on effects on everyday life will be huge.

Contain it and things will adjust to normal. We were at the end of the business cycle anyway. A recession was inevitable.

tobefrank321

bilston wrote: »

Outdated joke...but nice try

Gatherings of people will be banned. Stormont MLAs only ever need the slightest excuse to skive off. It will be empty. They are already preparing for it.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/coronavirus-stormont-mlas-could-conduct-their-work-at-home-via-video-link-if-crisis-grows-39026845.html

BLIZZARD7

facehugger99 wrote: »

Ah, you won't get anywhere here with a measured response like that - the lads hitting F5 know better than the UKs Deputy Chief Medical Officer for example, when it comes to risk assessment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51812326

Hysteria, overreaction and soundbites are the way to go.

There are no experts on Covid-19. Do you think proper risk assessment was carried out in Italy? The UK will follow in their footsteps. I'm all for measured response but not introducing preventative measures before you half a problem is pure negligence when we have China and now Italy etc for reference.

givyjoe

Cw85 wrote: »

56 in the UK, I can see Ireland having 2-4 again which would be nice and positive and more looking like its very well contained

How does it look like its well contained? These cases are infections arising from before we took any action, i.e. Paddys day etc, which are events that hadn't happened yet anyway. Strange logic altogether.

Lesnar Defender

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

Mwengwe

HowardBeale wrote: »

What amazes me about this whole thing is it's known a strong immune system is the best defense to any infection or virus

Yet no one is focusing on strenghtening their immune system with vitamin C or iodine or ginger, garlic etc. Foods, vitamins minerals etc.

Everyone focused on meaningless trivial crap like 'wipes' that do nothing or hand sprays that do nothing either for the immune system. Just money making rackets at the minute.

Like with coronavirus as some have said why not let the body get exposed to it immune system fight it off and it's done for.

Seems it's only killing the very elderly and as pointed out despite all the fear mongering the common flu kills umpteen more people every single year.

Remember the olden days with measles?. People knew if a child got measles then they would never get it again. It was done for.

I think the whole bulk buying of hand sanitizers is insane as they don't actually do anything.
Like a placebo if you will.

The people who go on about strengthening your immune system are frequently the same people who constantly seem to be coming down with something.

lainey_d_123

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/british-couple-contract-virus-on-flight-from-heathrow-to-vietnam

Fella in this article (and he's no spring chicken) says he and his wife tested positive for the virus and have no symptoms, and that over 80% of people have no symptoms. That can't be right surely?

lak

We know where we're gonna end up,stop pissing about and implement the changes/stoppages now and maybe we'll avoid some of what everywhere else has got/is getting/gonna get.

Ger Roe

completedit wrote: »

There advice doesn’t make sense. They are basing it off having been in the affected countries. But the disease has been in Ireland for maybe 2 or 3 weeks at this rate. We need locations in the country, the more specific the better. I was on a dart on Friday and a gang of Italian students got out of the next carriage. That’s just one isolated example. Not saying any of them had it.

Seriously? did you even read it. The page was updated at 8.30 am this morning and explains everything you need to know. Are you looking for someone to call you with a personal explanation?

In your case (DART scenario), if you think you have been in close contact with a confirmed case, that option is covered. Read and follow.

tobefrank321

So we've heard of a case in Naas, Cork (Apple) and two others (anecdotally on here) who returned from skiing.

That's 4 already today. Not looking good.

Miike

Ger Roe wrote: »

I don't think your advice is correct. People who suspect that they have symptoms should contact their GP by phone as a first move. Your GP will advise if you should then contact HSE.

That's my understanding of the advice being given. The GP network has the first screen task and will assess from a list of pre-determined questions that they have been circulated with.

Full official HSE advice is here - https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

HSELive will go through the same things with that person on the phone. This is the advice given by Public Health - Not everyone is going to have access to Internet or know how

On a side note; the reason I suggested HSELive telephone was the page was out of date last time I checked but it has since been "updated". I use the term updated very loosely.

Trinity is doing all lectures online only for the rest of the term

loughside

So Four new cases in N.Ireland today,
that`s a big increase considering pop. size

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-51821951

JP Liz V1

Apple in Cork has a confirmed case, this could be old news now seeing how fast this thread moves

Duke of Url

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

no

reg114

completedit wrote: »

Contain it and things will adjust to normal. We were at the end of the business cycle anyway. A recession was inevitable.

Very true , we've been in a bull market since 2011 but this has the hallmarks of a sudden collapse. remember the last time was a softer landing. I think the time for containment has passed. Remember 100,000 tourists will enter ireland in the coming days from every infected country in the world, this spells curtains for our efforts to contain it.

Cw85

givyjoe wrote: »

How does it look like its well contained? These cases are infections arising from before we took any action, i.e. Paddys day etc, which are events that hadn't happened yet anyway. Strange logic altogether.

2-4 a day is one of the lowest in Europe if not the lowest increase per day

Naggdefy

facehugger99 wrote: »

Ah, you won't get anywhere here with a measured response like that - the lads hitting F5 know better than the UKs Deputy Chief Medical Officer for example, when it comes to risk assessment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51812326

Hysteria, overreaction and soundbites are the way to go.

You have to be one of the most bitter posters on boards.

From your GAA bashing thread to your favourite 3 people to be aborted thread, which ironically was aborted by boards.

Lord TSC

facehugger99 wrote: »

Another couple of weeks paid leave for the teachers - they'll be delighted no doubt.

Its nice that in the face of a pandemic, there'll still be people who cannot help with this sort of thing.

For what its worth, you'd be surprised how many teachers are actually not full time, and will not get paid for the weeks off they have. My brother is incredibly frustrated because this now means he won't get a wage for the next five weeks.

Miike

tobefrank321 wrote: »

So we've heard of a case in Naas, Cork (Apple) and two others (anecdotally on here) who returned from skiing.

That's 4 already today. Not looking good.

We've been 'hearing' about cases in these threads for days. The infamous Drogheda 3 :pac:

facehugger99

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

There are no experts on Covid-19.

You're quite right, the anonymous internet randomer's opinions must be treated with the same degree of respect as someone with over 30 years medical training and experience.:rolleyes:

josip

cherryghost wrote: »

I think its partially yes, but also her apartment rental is up tomorrow also, and landlord isnt playing nice to extend. And of course to visit her daughter/grandaughter.

Sounds like she's coming to stay for good. Lucky you.

industry accountant

industry accountant wrote: »

All the hate towards teachers for the time off they get.
I'm not a teacher but I don't begrudge them time off, if you're so jealous go and become one!!

Are they getting time off? I'd expect them to set 'homework' for the day every morning and prepare materials for the next day (including online videos etc.)

If they close next week, will it actually be 'safe' to reopen them after Easter? Things may be worse by then. We need to imagine the schools being closed until the summer.

GolfNut33

gabeeg wrote: »

I'm just back from Madrid, I have a fever and I'm developing a cough.

That website has no info that pertains to me. What do I do now?

I'm the same. Was away 2 weeks ago and have a bad chest and had a fever over the weekend. I don't meet the criteria on the HSE website so I'm just at home trying to get over it. Kinda feel in no-mans land and trying not to be in contact with others the best I can.

silverharp

should this thread become its own sub-forum? , its like a clunky version of Twitter? it would be better to have threads of different aspects and have their own discussions

megabomberman

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

There are no experts on Covid-19. Do you think proper risk assessment was carried out in Italy? The UK will follow in their footsteps. I'm all for measured response but not introducing preventative measures before you half a problem is pure negligence when we have China and now Italy etc for reference.

The bar for certain posters is permanently guided only by outcomes that are *certain* to occur.

The fact that there is only a chance of catastrophe justifies inaction.

Tony Holohan is not clairvoyant, so we are essentially gambling with his judgement.

wadacrack

completedit wrote: »

Contain it and things will adjust to normal. We were at the end of the business cycle anyway. A recession was inevitable.

I dont think its is containable tbh, It will probably be a battle to prevent severe outbreak's until a vaccine or enough people are infected that immunity starts to help.

Lesnar Defender

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

Do all the countries that did nuclear testing and covered it up pay ?

Do all the countries that emit chemicals and pollution pay ?

Do all the the countries that drill for oil pay ?

China hardly did this on purpose, unlike any of the above.

tobefrank321

gabeeg wrote: »

I'm just back from Madrid, I have a fever and I'm developing a cough.

That website has no info that pertains to me. What do I do now?

Self Isolate first and foremost. Then wait about 11 days to see if things get worse. If not you should be fine to go about your business.

2 weeks isolation seems to be the recommended minimum as international best practise after returning from an infection hotspot.

Hodors Appletart

the apple case is from yesterday's numbers

gabeeg

GolfNut33 wrote: »

I'm the same. Was away 2 weeks ago and have a bad chest and had a fever over the weekend. I don't meet the criteria on the HSE website so I'm just at home trying to get over it. Kinda feel in no-mans land and trying not to be in contact with others the best I can.

Where were you?

Granadino

Also, is there a list of these "underlying health conditions" we hear about in relation to the poor folk who died that we should be aware of?

BLIZZARD7

facehugger99 wrote: »

You're quite right, the anonymous internet randomer's opinions must be treated with the same degree of respect as someone with over 30 years medical training and experience.:rolleyes:

I'm not saying that but what use was that to the Italians???

Also we need to listen to epidemiologists and statisticians. Funny enough they aren't too happy with the lack of preparation. Or how about the WHO basically screaming at western countries to react for the past few weeks?

The evidence on the ground in Italy paints a harrowing picture, maybe pay attention to that and not the UK who are yet to realise the train wreck that is about to ensue.

wakka12

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

Of course not, China's actions prevented what would currently be an explosive pandemic if they hadn't acted as they did. The disease beginning there is freak chance

s7ryf3925pivug

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

Reparations only happen when a more powerful country decides a less powerful one should pay them. No country is powerful enough to demand reparations from China.

(Aside from whether there would be a case for them or not.)

wakka12

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

Will China be made to pay heavy reparations for all the damage this disease (and their cover up!) has caused?

Of course not, China's actions prevented what would currently be an explosive pandemic if they hadn't acted as they did. The disease beginning there is freak chance

facehugger99

Naggdefy wrote: »

You have to be one of the most bitter posters on boards.

From your GAA bashing thread to your favourite 3 people to be aborted thread, which ironically was aborted by boards.

It's good my posts have resonated with you so much.

I haven't a clue about your posts TBH and no interest in finding out

WAZZA1989

yermandan wrote: »

what is your source for this? Can't find it anywhere and my Mam is in there with Pneumonia

I am sorry I cannot name the source and I am sorry for that but it is a very reliable source from inside the hospital

I have also been told 13 patients in Mater not 2 again I cannot name the source but I can assure you it is reliable

secman

wakka12 wrote: »

Of course not, China's actions prevented what would currently be an explosive pandemic if they hadn't acted as they did. The disease beginning there is freak chance

So they have closed down and banned those live animal slaughter markets for "warm meat" ?

lawred2

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

There are no experts on Covid-19. Do you think proper risk assessment was carried out in Italy? The UK will follow in their footsteps. I'm all for measured response but not introducing preventative measures before you half a problem is pure negligence when we have China and now Italy etc for reference.

Do you mean no experts in knowing how to handle outbreaks of deadly viruses? Or simply no experts in Covid 19?

JP Liz V1

Granadino wrote: »

Also, is there a list of these "underlying health conditions" we hear about in relation to the poor folk who died that we should be aware of?

I have seen Cystic Fibrosis, Asthma, Cancer and Diabetes as high risk

wakka12

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/british-couple-contract-virus-on-flight-from-heathrow-to-vietnam

Fella in this article (and he's no spring chicken) says he and his wife tested positive for the virus and have no symptoms, and that over 80% of people have no symptoms. That can't be right surely?

They have no symptoms yet, WHO said asymptomatic illness is extremely uncommon and has only been recorded in a few cases most of which were children

Cupatae

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-whole-of-italy-put-on-lockdown-11954097?fbclid=IwAR2ZxBKJl2LHCoDdFIbKzX9u85ohwd5lFEjUPBubjZPTLHkcDAJbdgUrvAM

jesus italy is gettin hammered by it

GolfNut33

gabeeg wrote: »

Where were you?

France. Was on a Ryanair flight that had an all Italian flight crew.

Steve F

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I have seen Cystic Fibrosis, Asthma, Cancer and Diabetes as high risk

..add to that Hypertension