Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

That's what people have been saying in here all along
I quoted the important part below

Every country’s epidemic trajectory (except SK) is on track to become Italy epidemic level within a matter of 1-2 weeks at this current pace

Unless we can ramp up behaviour modification awareness among more and more people. Simply has to happen

SleetAndSnow

DonnieCorko wrote: »

Two cases confirmed amongst Ervia employees in Cork according to the cork independent paper

https://www.corkindependent.com/news/topics/articles/2020/03/10/4187013-two-ervia-staff-confirmed-with-covid19/

Link for people looking

Strazdas

wadacrack wrote: »

Whats coming here is scary.


https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237430528346816512

Even if that comes to pass, it still doesn't tell us a huge amount.

All it tells us is that 10k out of 60m are infected.....(that would translate as less than 1k cases in the Republic if we get to March 10th Italy level).

It's the next 4-6 weeks or so that needs to be very closely watched in Italy.

nullzero

You'd have to imagine that the custom of kissing cheeks as a greeting in Italy has had some effect on the spread of the virus at least in the early stages (as the practice has been suspended).

Mic 1972

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

Scotty #

landofthetree wrote: »

Maybe.

But Italians are generally a pretty healthy people. They have a good diet and a good healthcare system.

Heavy smokers, like the Chinese.

BLIZZARD7

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

A large increase In new deaths you mean?

Thankfully a large drop in new cases though, maybe their containment is starting to work.

joe316

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

Eh, you’d want to look at those numbers again

splinter65

flynnlives wrote: »

So all the confirmations around the country are about to start.

Have the church decided on the prudent move to postpone all confirmations that are upcoming?

First post trying to blame the corona virus on RCC. Good effort.

Cuckoo7

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/
It’s amazing that on the 6th and 7th of March they had a decrease in cases.
Did they put on any restrictions?

BorneTobyWilde

I thought older Italians were fit, all of them have been doing Olive Oil for years.

Lashes28

Mr.S wrote: »

So what are we thinking for our numbers @ 6pm? I’m thinking 7 new cases.

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bekker

Mr.S wrote: »

So what are we thinking for our numbers @ 6pm? I’m thinking 7 new cases.

5 using indices of 1.235, 7 would require 1.292 way outside worldwide (-China) range.

Mic 1972

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Could it possibly be there's a lot of smokers in Italy?

same as anywhere in EU
Italy has a lot of infected, more than the HSE can handle thus a lot of poeple can't avail of intensive care and die, that is the explanation
The death rate will change once HSE reaches full capacity

nullzero

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought older Italians were fit, all of them have been doing Olive Oil for years.

Like that ad from. The 90s where all the old timers are playing football and acting the maggot?

NegativeCreep

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

They have far more new deaths today

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

New cases down, but deaths up?

laurah591

MD1990 wrote: »

China's over 60 population is probably more healthy than Europe.

Italy's death rate is far worse

I think Italy's death rate is so bad because the health services are on the brink of collapse and cannot handle the volume of cases which is having a terrible impact.

I've read some harrowing reports regarding the choices doctors are making. We really all need to pay attention and embrace social distancing, & hygiene as guided by the HSE.

Cuckoo7

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought older Italians were fit, all of them have been doing Olive Oil for years.

There’s only so much fitness at 80 something.

Duke of Url

I believe for Italy to have so many deaths, the must have 60-70 thousand cases not confirmed.

Mic 1972

joe316 wrote: »

Eh, you’d want to look at those numbers again

today new cases 977
yesterday new cases were 1,700
that's quite a drop

saabsaab

nullzero wrote: »

You'd have to imagine that the custom of kissing cheeks as a greeting in Italy has had some effect on the spread of the virus at least in the early stages (as the practice has been suspended).

I suppose it would help a little that we Irish are not a tactile people in general like those in southern Europe.

Cilldara_2000

all about the mane wrote: »

Why?

Bigger is better?

JDD

I think we'll have 4 or 5 new cases. We're tracking pretty close to the UK's numbers per capita, and they had a 17% increase this morning.

is_that_so

touts wrote: »

Germany has a functioning well resourced health system.
Italy not so much.
Ireland Not at all.

I take it there is little danger of you backing this up with, say evidence?

Dodge

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is doing a lot better today
Significant drop in new cases and new deaths

168 new deaths today They hadn’t reached triple figures in a day before

Now 10,149 cases. So 1,000 new cases today

If you things that’s ‘a lot better’ then maybe you should just shut up and admit you haven’t a clue

Mic 1972

Italy doesn't have the capacity to handle the number of infected people
If the over 65 patients are not admitted to hospital it means they are going to die thus the high number of deaths

DrumSteve

Mic 1972 wrote: »

today new cases 977
yesterday new cases were 1,700
that's quite a drop

Seems likes theres a window between being one of the first to get it and one of the first to get it after a lock down. If your in the middle there, youre odds are taking a hit.

Mic 1972

Dodge wrote: »

168 new deaths today They hadn’t reached triple figures in a day before

Now 10,149 cases. So 1,000 new cases today

If you things that’s ‘a lot better’....

they have 1000k new cases LESS than yesterday, that is a lot better yes, it's more than half

kalkat2002

saabsaab wrote: »

I suppose it would help a little that we Irish are not a tactile people in general like those in southern Europe.

But they are far more hygienic even when water is not free as here...

banie01

The terrifying aspect of the Italian death rate so far.
Is these deaths are in addition to all other causes.

Stroke, accident, cardiac arrest, aneurysm and myriad other every day events that bring patients to hospital where sometimes, they can be saved by appropriate support and intervention.

Those patients are now also dying because Covid-19 has a stranglehold on ICU beds and urgent care medics.

The adjusted death rate including all other causes in affected areas at the moment must be fúcking horrific.

is_that_so

Gods Gift wrote: »

Too hard to remember.

Can we not just call it Seán. Or Pat.

Paddys-Day-220 virus!

Cee-Jay-Cee

caveat emptor wrote: »

But what about freedom of movement? I thought their hands are tied? It's an internal border but?

Who are they going to complain to? There is no one that’s going to listen to any silly wanker that thinks they have a case to take to Europe challenging a countries decision to close its borders. They’d have zero support.

Blueshoe

There will be 7 new cases today

Dodge

Mic 1972 wrote: »

they have 1000k new cases LESS than yesterday, that is a lot better yes, it's more than half

You need to look up medical statistics and how they’re reported on a Monday versus the weekend.

Seriously.

Mic 1972

kalkat2002 wrote: »

But they are far more hygienic even when water is not free as here...

eheheh true

JP Liz V1

I would think the big countries would have their top scientists working on trying to get a cure

ACitizenErased

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I would think the big countries would have their top scientists working on trying to get a cure

I'd say this is happening.

Cork Boy 53

banie01 wrote: »

The terrifying aspect of the Italian death rate so far.
Is these deaths are in addition to all other causes.

Stroke, accident, cardiac arrest, aneurysm and myriad other every day events that bring patients to hospital where sometimes, they can be saved by appropriate support and intervention.

Those patients are now also dying because Covid-19 has a stranglehold on ICU beds and urgent care medics.

The adjusted death rate including all other causes in affected areas at the moment must be fúcking horrific.

Absolutely spot on.

Cilldara_2000

Nijmegen wrote: »

As we're fond of international comparisons.... Interesting take on the package of measures announced by the government:

https://twitter.com/business/status/1237323831993413632?s=20

The bastards. It should've been €1,200 per person.

Ann22

Trinity have now suspended all on site classes til further notice.

Mic 1972

Dodge wrote: »

You need to look up medical statistics and how they’re reported on a Monday versus the weekend.

Seriously.

no idea what yo are talking about
Italy had over 1000K new cases for 3 days in a row and today finally they went below that mark

is_that_so

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'd say this is happening.

Lots of trials going already. TfL also have a plan.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-51822317

ACitizenErased

A number of lecturers at UCC and CIT have begun facilitating online lectures. I expect some sort of announcement soon.

Cuckoo7

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Absolutely spot on.

I think that’s what most it’s just a flu didn’t get, the chain reaction if health services collapse because of an outbreak.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237434470384521216?s=20

Kalyke

Mic 1972 wrote: »

no idea what yo are talking about
Italy had over 1000K new cases for 3 days in a row and today finally they went below that mark

One thousand, thousands?

daheff

Mic 1972 wrote: »

today new cases 977
yesterday new cases were 1,700
that's quite a drop

theres always going to be a lag in the cases. If you think about it, and measures put in place today will take up to 14 days to feed through into the daily numbers (14 day incubation period).

So what did the Italians do 10 odd days ago? First lockdowns started around about 21st Feb...and that lockdowns only grew since then.

Hopefully they will start getting lower amounts of daily cases from now on in.
Still think they are looking at a spike in the south in about 2 weeks though (all the northerns that got wind of the impending quarantine and headed south).

laurah591

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

A large increase In new deaths you mean?

Thankfully a large drop in new cases though, maybe their containment is starting to work.

Or theyve slowed testing and people have slowed presenting given stuff that has been published recently 're capacity issues in Italy's healthcare

I hope I'm wrong and they have slowed spread

rameire

Italy Cases
2nd - 1,701
3rd - 2,502 ( +801 )
4th - 3,089 ( +587 )
5th - 3,858 ( +769 )
6th - 4,636 ( +778 )
7th - 5,833 ( +1197 )
8th - 7,375 ( +1542 )
9th - 9,172 ( +1797 )
10th - 10,149 ( +977 so far )