Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

spookwoman

Martina1991 wrote: »

So facebook isn't reliable but twitter is?!

so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

bodhrandude

MCKG wrote: »

Yes all in one small town.

What town is it?

Lord Trollington

froog wrote: »

let's be honest here, every country will effectively make a balls of this thing, because no country is capable of containing it, and no country has the health system capacity to treat it. health systems are simply not designed for these things.

the outlier being china of course, but every day now i'm doubting their figures more and more.

I dont agree entirely. It is a balancing act to not cripple the whole country financially for months if not years introducing measures that are knee jerk for that moment in time .

Are we better off biting the bullet now worldwide and introduce draconian measures for 1/2 months or do we wait and sit on our hands in the hope that a treatment can be formulated in the coming weeks or months .

Unearthly

otnomart wrote: »

European Council has decided that flight slots are kept - if/when flights are stopped

Common sense prevails. Ridiculous having mostly empty planes flying for the sake of keeping slots

IrishStuff09

theguzman wrote: »

Do we have a county by county breakdown on figures? I heard of a case in Ballyvourney Co. Cork yesterday! Even the Chinese who were criticized gave us a breakdown by prefecture of cases. With 50 cases on the island, we should be getting the information of where the infected are, was it local transmission or imported from abroad etc. Italy has higher death figures per day than China now, Ireland will be Italy within 2 weeks.

Best we've got, officially.

dublin99

froog wrote: »

if every single person in a country wore masks at all times wouldn't this have a dramatic impact on new cases. not protecting people - but massively reducing infected spreading??

That's exactly what happened in Macau and Taiwan.

Macau had 10 cases and everything was closed for a few weeks. Masks are mandatory on public transport and in casinos. They are provided at cost by the Government. No new case for 35 days!

Taiwan took similar steps promptly and also stopped visitors from China. The number of cases to date, since late January, is about 45.

First hand report by Kathryn Whitfield of the Guardian:
"Taipei seems to have the virus in hand. Now I worry about returning to the UK "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china

ArchXStanton

otnomart wrote: »

Macron speaking now and he has already said the word "economy" a couple of times (too many, IMHO)
From him, nearly 1800 cases it's the start of the epidemy.
Not a Chinese approach, then.

What did you expect from banker puppet boy...

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237455860395323392?s=20

Achasanai

spookwoman wrote: »

so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

But Twitter is no more reliable than Facebook.


Social media is just people like yourself or myself talking. We might be telling the truth but we might as often not. Twitter is probably worse for bullshít as there's more 'anonymous' accounts knocking around.

expectationlost

MCKG wrote: »

I am from this town in south Galway. We have had 4 confirmed cases since Sunday. 3 of those cases (we think) seem to be included in today figures, the other 1 in yesterday’s. Lots of people being tested of the past few days.

The GP is right, schools need to close in this area and all events cancelled.

where did those people get it from?

otnomart

otnomart wrote: »

"On 10 March, the members of the European Council will discuss how to coordinate EU efforts to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak.
The meeting will start at 17.00 (CET).
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/european-council/president/news/20200309-euco-videoconference-covid19/

Outcome:
-Leaders agreed they will share *all* COVID19 information.

I thought that was happening already !!!

-EU will jointly procure face masks and respirators for member states.

Finally !

-Flexibilities will be considered to help member states economically
Ditto


https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1237455455812825089

Plumbthedepths

spookwoman wrote: »

so everyone on social media is lying ....... :rolleyes:

Oh I doubt everyone on sm lie, but a significant number do for whatever sad reason they use to justify it to themselves.

Cuckoo7

dublin99 wrote: »

That's exactly what happened in Macau and Taiwan.

Macau had 10 cases and everything was closed for a few weeks. Masks are mandatory on public transport and in casinos. They are provided at cost by the Government. No new case for 35 days!

Taiwan took similar steps promptly and also stopped visitors from China. The number of cases to date, since late January, is about 45.

First hand report by Kathryn Whitfield of the Guardian:
"Taipei seems to have the virus in hand. Now I worry about returning to the UK "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/coronavirus-outbreak-taipei-taiwan-china

How much a ticket to Macau?:D

ACitizenErased

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237455860395323392?s=20

If it's one of the 10 cases today then he's a contact.

caveat emptor

Achasanai wrote: »

But Twitter is no more reliable than Facebook.


Social media is just people like yourself or myself talking. We might be telling the truth but we might as often not. Twitter is probably worse for bullshít as there's more 'anonymous' accounts knocking around.

Really?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237442793242591234?s=20

Away With The Fairies

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237447726331281408?s=20

Go in and kill them all. That's what they want.

twirlagig

bodhrandude wrote: »

What town is it?

If it’s the right post I’m thinking about, it’s mentioned in the twitter bio of a doctor in Galway
@DickDoc123

aloevera33

expectationlost wrote: »

where did those people get it from?

The G.P in clare I think

Away With The Fairies

caveat emptor wrote: »

Really?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237442793242591234?s=20

Oh God

CinemaGuy45

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Go in and kill them all. That's what they want.

Good post I see you are not away with the fairies today.;)

r93kaey5p2izun

Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?

Away With The Fairies

Can people please stop coughing into their hand? It's not helping me here. Cough into your elbow, not that hard.

FourFourRED

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Best we've got, officially.

Someone in the North has it who plays for Linfield.

Cuckoo7

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Can people please stop coughing into their hand? It's not helping me here. Cough into your elbow, not that hard.

That’s the first step, give them a couple of pandemics and they’ll do it right.

froog

Cheerful Spring2

caveat emptor wrote: »

Really?

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237442793242591234?s=20

Italy death rate has jumped from 168 to 631. They're a lot of teachers around the country who are not young and will have harder time if they get it.

I don't believe for a minute the virus is not spreading.The disease coming in from Italy, the deadly strain of the coronavirus is here. Best to contain now before its too late. We seem to just waiting till more people get before we react.

CinemaGuy45

Hope Scrawny Conductor wrote: »

Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?

Everything in Ireland is a joke so why not have a good laugh.

fritzelly

Are the HSE releasing any ages of the cases or is it solely sex and somewhere in Ireland?

torres9kop

Feels like this....

IrishStuff09

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Best we've got, officially.

I’m NW so no idea what section they’ll shove me in to when I get it.

bekker

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Best we've got, officially.

Sex is irrelevant except to the individuals concerned, what we should be getting are the cities/nearest large towns where cases are detected..

fr336

Have to say The Guardian website and app is superb on this - brilliant live updates for UK and internationally, and lots of articles and stats around CV as a whole. If I need the essential info it's my first stop (with Boards a close second obviously)

Stheno

Hope Scrawny Conductor wrote: »

Are we in Ireland supposed to be following WHO guidelines? I see they have a document about getting your workplace COVID19 ready. It states that anyone with a cough or mild fever should be told to stay at home. Or anyone who has needed to take paracetamol or ibuprofen as they mask symptoms. This is obviously not happening here. So do the WHO guidelines not apply to Ireland? Does the HSE not think this is necessary for Ireland?

Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

Cuckoo7

Stheno wrote: »

Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

May I ask is it a big company?

Stewball

I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?

Boggles

joe40 wrote: »

With good hygiene and no symptoms she should be able to visit her father. This virus could be with us for months/years. I don't why we have the idea that everything will be fine in a few weeks.
This might be something we have to manage long term.

Yeah, the attitude of I'm visiting my father even if it kills him is the worrying part for me.

The guy in the bed beside her father who is only in for a bit of respite and intends getting out soon, may not see it the same way, nor would his family.

This thing got into a hospice in Italy last week, it was outright carnage in mere days.

Stheno

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

May I ask is it a big company?

Yes

Over 150000 employees with a large presence in Asia

We had a global travel ban imposed in January for example

Hurrache

Stheno wrote: »

Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

My place too, and others I know of.

People don't see these implemented wherever they are and assume it's not happening anywhere in Ireland.

How dumb an opinion to form.

dark crystal

Stheno wrote: »

Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

Lucky ye...

Not very many companies who would be so accommodating to employees complaining of a cough or head cold. Half my office would have been self isolating the past few weeks if that was the case!

Then again, we don't have the option to work from home either.

StefanFal

There was one confirmed case in Dundalk today. Does that fall under North or East?

cnocbui

facehugger99 wrote: »

What do the hysterical earlier threads prove exactly?

That the people in those threads you consider hysterical, had a far superior grasp of the potential seriousness of this pandemic than you, Strazdas and your ilk.

aloevera33

What happens people who genuinely have a chest infection ( not coronavirus) and cant visit G.P now

Cuckoo7

Stewball wrote: »

I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?

If you do it like that it’s very easy for you to be coughing in your hand/your hand touching your face.

otnomart

Smaller EU Countries are afraid for their healthcare systems to be overwhelmed,
think of Malta, Cyprus, Slovenia, how many beds do they have ?
While France, Germany and Spain now have 5000 cases combined.
And still no significant measures.
I am afraid they intend to "normalise" the virus just to keep the economy going.

Stheno

dark crystal wrote: »

Lucky ye...

Not very many companies who would be so accommodating to employees complaining of a cough or head cold. Half my office would have been self isolating the past few weeks if that was the case!

Then again, we don't have the option to work from home either.

Everyone of the 400 odd employees in our Irish offices can work from home

All supplier visits are banned as are attendance at conferences, and visits by contractors

Normally people work from home a day or two a week in my place

Go in and sneeze ad you are sent home at the moment

tom1ie

Someone earlier posted a link to the breakdown of the Italian stats. I couldn’t open one link and the other link was Italian.
I translated it. Here’s some of the info:

10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, 31% are symptomatic, 6% have severe symptoms and 19% are critical. 24% of the cases examined are hospitalized. The analysis confirms that 56.6% of the deceased people are over 80 years old, and two thirds of these have 3 or more pre-existing chronic diseases.

So that 56.6% of:

The analysis, out of 8342 positive cases at 9 March at 10 am, shows that 1.4% are under the age of 19, 22.0% are in the 19-50 range, 37.4% between 51 and 70 and 39.2% are over 70, for a median age of 65. 62.1% are men. There are 583 positive health workers.

They are mental stats.

r93kaey5p2izun

Stheno wrote: »

Where I work that's been the protocol for three weeks

Cough, or even a head cold and it's off working from home for two weeks you go

Unfortunately it's not implemented widely. I'd say most workplaces haven't a clue. I see plenty of shop assistants coughing and sniffing, and I was working in a school last week and it was the same there. Teachers and students coughing and sneezing everywhere. And I can't see this advice from the HSE anywhere, either directly or with links to the WHO.

Ludo

Stewball wrote: »

I seen someone earlier coughing into their jumper - they lifted up the neckline above their nose and then coughed.

I thought that was a good way of doing it - but is it good?

A guy I work with always sneezes and coughs like that. We used to always laugh when he did it and poke fun. Not so much anymore.

Away With The Fairies

torres9kop wrote: »

Feels like this....

That's the movie I was thinking of.

Frank Bullitt

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237458692762677250

Advise for all of us.