Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Strazdas

fr336 wrote: »

Something alarming like Italy going into lockdown? :pac:

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

igCorcaigh

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237465142851514370?s=19

retro:electro

tom1ie

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

The symptom analysis is scary but then the age analysis explains it. Only 23.4% of cases are under 50? Only 1.4% are under 19? That shows that cases of young people with the virus are not being picked up as they have v little symptoms so the absence of such asymptomatic cases is skewing the symptoms data and making it look far more severe than it is (not that it isnt severe enough obviously)

Someone asked for the original link
Italy publishes: number of tests; positives; hospitalised; in intensive care; age profile of victims; comorbidities of victims https://www.iss.it/cor...E/content/id/5292020? and http://opendatadpc.map...ml#/dae18c330e8e4093

SusanC10

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Cuckoo7

tom1ie wrote: »

Someone asked for the original link
Italy publishes: number of tests; positives; hospitalised; in intensive care; age profile of victims; comorbidities of victims https://www.iss.it/cor...E/content/id/5292020? and http://opendatadpc.map...ml#/dae18c330e8e4093

None of those links work for me?

CinemaGuy45

Strazdas wrote: »

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D

Italy has the 3rd biggest population in the EU only France and Germany are bigger.

RandomName2

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

fr336

Strazdas wrote: »

No, to answer your question. Five or ten such EU countries in lockdown would be a different matter.

To be honest two or three EU countries in lockdown would be more than enough to scare me into action. If Italy, France and Germany were to go to such extremes, something is seriously wrong. And if happened in the UK that would be a screaming red siren for Ireland.

smelly sock

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

1.9 million to be infected. 85k deaths if that happens.

igCorcaigh

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Most people, even those in a high risk group, will be just fine. Its very worrying I know, and I've talked to my parents too (70's).

Keep it balanced and inject a sense of humour into the conversation too. No point in them worrying themselves to death. And be there for them.

twirlagig

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't understand the obsession with knowing where the cases are.

Surely people should take the exact same precautions no matter where.

It's a rapidly moving contagious disease and we are a small country.

Just assume it's everywhere because if it isn't it soon will be.

I hear what you’re saying but I honestly think a lot of people won’t take action unless it’s on their doorstep. I fully agree that we should be making every effort we can, I’m in Galway btw, but going by some of the opinions I hear from people ... (‘ah, the west... sure that’s probably Mayo.. etc)
I really think the counties, at least, should be named.

otnomart

Xertz wrote: »

I'm just wondering about the psychology of this. We could probably all put up with this for a month or two, living like recluses and avoiding contact and so on, but there'll come a point where there's serious issues with how this psychologically impacts a lot of people.

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

Drumpot

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

People over 70 , particularly with underlying medical conditions should certainly read up on this and make their own call about taking steps to start self isolating now. Nobody can look at Italy’s numbers and rationally suggest they should wait until we might get there before really starting to weigh up social decisions they make going forward. And for the “will somebody please think about the economy” crowd, at least the economy can carry on while the more vulnerable are a little more protected.

gmisk

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

Leo was saying y'day possibly 50/60% of the population could get it...
So yeah 85k deaths is possible if we get high number of infections

KWAG2019

Bobtheman wrote: »

So no school closures ?

There’s a curiosity around that given a GPs online insistence that there were cases in his area and repeated demands from him that schools be closed. So far it seems there is no news of that happening. Perhaps none of this evenings cases were schoolchildren.

PHET seems to be sticking to its guns that there is no need for wider school closure or limits on visitors to hospitals or nursing homes. Given what’s coming out from Italy from doctors about the consequences of delay they seem very confident that they are right. One to watch.

Drumpot

otnomart wrote: »

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

That might be actually where we could ask our retired professional workers to help out. Instead of being on the frontline , be on the end of a line to chat with people?!

CinemaGuy45

SusanC10 wrote: »

This whole situation is so upsetting tbh. That article today about the lack of funerals.

My elderly Mum (rural, catholic, conservative) read that today and phoned me. She would be at risk with underlying health conditions. She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

I know how you feel.

We are still here nobody knows for sure what is going to happen.

Could a small number of people get the shopping for your mum so she does not have to go out during this time?

If you think you might be infected stay away.

Downlinz

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Hurrache

SusanC10 wrote: »

She also heard/read Leo (and he a Dr) say that 85,000 people would die in Ireland.

Are there any positives from today at all ?

Well, he didn't say that for starters

And those funeral measures aren't required either.

igCorcaigh

otnomart wrote: »

Mental health helplines should ramp up support there.
Or even having a dedicated HSE support line dedicated to this.

That is an excellent idea.
A separate helpline for the worried well.

Widdensushi

Drumpot wrote: »

That might be actually where we could ask our retired professional workers to help out. Instead of being on the frontline , be on the end of a line to chat with people?!

This country is so wrapped up in redtape and lawsuits that it would not be possible.

drunkmonkey

Some coronavirus patients experience nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea before they get a fever. They could spread the virus through poop.

https://www.businessinsider.com/some-wuhan-coronavirus-patients-have-nausea-vomiting-diarrhea-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

Naggdefy

retro:electro wrote: »

Yep and I think that’s why I feel so guilty and am thinking about it since. How something like this has completely altered how I respond to a situation. Unfortunately I have a close family member who would be in the extremely high risk category so I just could not take the chance. I did take a glance over as I was leaving and he seemed to be pottering about so I’m sure he’s okay.

Not to worry retro. Your heart is in the right place.

caveat emptor

I think a few positives are in order. Fair play to the people that pushed for this.

Parades are cancelled.
Government ramping up response.
It's clearly not the flu.
Airlines cancelling flights.

What other measures do people feel strongly about on here that could help contain this outbreak?

One big one in mind is community transmission testing. Until someone is in hospital and serious like that person in cork they won't get tested? That seems a bit mad to me. How many hospital staff subsequently contracted the disease or had to self isolate.

Funsterdelux

cannotlogin wrote: »

I don't understand the obsession with knowing where the cases are.

Surely people should take the exact same precautions no matter where.

It's a rapidly moving contagious disease and we are a small country.

Just assume it's everywhere because if it isn't it soon will be.

Have you got D'Virus?

1huge1

Downlinz wrote: »

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Exactly. and that is to emphasis, WORST case scenario. That is by no means, the base outcome.

Itssoeasy

Empty stadium in Valencia for the champions league game and it's looks really weird.

all about the mane

Downlinz wrote: »

5% death rate of 1.9m infected as was the figure suggested as a worst case scenario would be in the region of 95k deaths. That's with less than half of the population infected.

Where are you getting the 5% figure? And why do people here always jump to the worst case scenario?

Still waters

thebaz wrote: »

so true, I suffer with anxiety/depression and this is not helping , thats why I keep searching for the little positives - keep me going

You could help yourself massively by staying off boards and social media, why do that to yourself if you suffer anxiety, do all you can to help yourself and give social media a break

Larbre34

Widdensushi wrote: »

This country is so wrapped up in redtape and lawsuits that it would not be possible.

It is happening. Retired nurses and paramedics are bring canvassed for voluntary return to duty. My colleague's father is a retired Ambo and he was phoned by an officer he knew.

I haven't heard about Doctors, Consultants etc

Comhrá

Gods Gift wrote: »

Shop here only has single ply toilet paper.
My ass is to posh for dat.

You need these:

1huge1

Larbre34 wrote: »

It is happening. Retired nurses and paramedics are bring canvassed for voluntary return to duty. My colleague's father is a retired Ambo and he was phoned by an officer he knew.

I haven't heard about Doctors, Consultants etc

Happy to hear that, do you know if he accepted?

smelly sock

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Most people, even those in a high risk group, will be just fine. Its very worrying I know, and I've talked to my parents too (70's).

Keep it balanced and inject a sense of humour into the conversation too. No point in them worrying themselves to death. And be there for them.

No. Anyone in a high risk group is in huge trouble. I dont want to be alarmist but lets not bury our heads in the sand any longer.

Frank Bullitt

twirlagig wrote: »

I wish they would mention the towns affected, if not that, even the County would do. Might wake up people a small bit if they know it’s near them.
I honestly cannot get over the amount of people that still seem to not give a fcuk about this.

Yes, because that would REALLY help with the panic...

SusanC10

Mum and I live 3.5 hours by car apart.
She has done some shopping at my and my 2 sisters insistence - 32 rolls of toilet paper !

She had been saying she was fine and insists on going to Mass every day followed by nearby shop to get newspaper etc.

But that article today (on the lack of funerals) seemed to have rattled her plus Leo on the TV didn't help.

I am going to set her up with Tesco online I think.

otnomart

caveat emptor wrote: »

What other measures do people feel strongly about on here that could help contain this outbreak?

Follow the social distancing and hygiene rules - same as in Italy:
-wash hands/use gel

-keep distance of at least 1 meter
-shop at off-peak hours whenever possible

-no handshakes

blackcard

all about the mane wrote: »

Where are you getting the 5% figure? And why do people here always jump to the worst case scenario?

Because people might take extra measures, knowing that if they don't, 95,000 could die

Gynoid

Probably posted. Good video today channel 4 news

https://youtu.be/9mrPHO-nkVE

Giacoma Grasselli, senior Italian govt health official helping to manage Lombardy outbreak. Cannot embed on phone.

KingBobby

Is there a possibility that the govt will insist that large gatherings will be stopped. Lots of exhibitions coming up in the RDS for example. The organisers seem to be full steam ahead. Lots of the vendors would prefer them to be cancelled and to get a refund...

skimpydoo

A good friend of mine Samantha Kelly aka the Tweeting Goddess has started a great new initiative for those of us who are like me and have to self-isolate as you can see below.

https://twitter.com/Tweetinggoddess/status/1237456130575646721?s=20

drunkmonkey

KWAG2019 wrote: »

There’s a curiosity around that given a GPs online insistence that there were cases in his area and repeated demands from him that schools be closed. So far it seems there is no news of that happening. Perhaps none of this evenings cases were schoolchildren.

PHET seems to be sticking to its guns that there is no need for wider school closure or limits on visitors to hospitals or nursing homes. Given what’s coming out from Italy from doctors about the consequences of delay they seem very confident that they are right. One to watch.

What area was this, wondering does it tie up with what I know.

CinemaGuy45

SusanC10 wrote: »

Mum and I live 3.5 hours by car apart.
She has done some shopping at my and my 2 sisters insistence - 32 rolls of toilet paper !

She had been saying she was fine and insists on going to Mass every day followed by nearby shop to get newspaper etc.

But that article today (on the lack of funerals) seemed to have rattled her plus Leo on the TV didn't help.

I am going to set her up with Tesco online I think.

Fair play to you online shopping is a Godsend.

As regards the bit in bold seeing him of TV never helps me either.:)

fr336

Two things making me more panicky by the day - 1. Italy 2. The UK goverment today telling us that the peak of the outbreak here will be within 2 weeks. As someone with parents just turned 70 with underlying health conditions, it's like being told war will start in two weeks and there's nothing you can do about it.

all about the mane

blackcard wrote: »

Because people might take extra measures, knowing that if they don't, 95,000 could die

So make people panic...great...

Itssoeasy

Hurrache wrote: »

Well, he didn't say that for starters

And those funeral measures aren't required either.

Those funeral restrictions to me seem to be a jumping the gun. No need to be releasing stuff when it hasn't happened yet.

Fr_Dougal

SusanC10 wrote: »

I am going to set her up with Tesco online I think.

Didn’t even know they did a dating app.

cameramonkey

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8096301/First-Chinese-city-lockdown-coronavirus-resume-work-social-activities.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed#reader-comments

twirlagig

Gintonious wrote: »

Yes, because that would REALLY help with the panic...

I am not looking for panic stations at all.
Just awareness. I’d rather know where it was and that people take preventative measures rather than thinking ‘ah it’s probably not here they’re talking about’

SpitfireIV

Don't know if it has been mentioned already, but I've heard talk that there has been a case in Kilkenny City, but, like I say, tis just talk. I work in the city and have heard its connected to a office based workplace that has had a percentage of its staff sent home to isolate.

I'm sure everyone knows someone, who knows someone that has it :-P