Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

d51984

Still amazed Cheltenham went ahead. Money talks I suppose.

all about the mane

twirlagig wrote: »

I am not looking for panic stations at all.
Just awareness. I’d rather know where it was and that people take preventative measures rather than thinking ‘ah it’s probably not here they’re talking about’

It will be everywhere. Just need to act sensibly

Tordelback

Hurrache wrote: »

And those funeral measures aren't required either.

It's a business associstion recommending steps to protect its staff and customers. Not too different from Trinity College closing itself down.

Plus it might be the wake-up call that some elderly people need to start protecting themselves. My 92 yr old aunt, for example, is understandably reasonably blasé about her own mortality, but was utterly horrified by the idea that her carefully scripted funeral might not happen. Prior to this no power on earth could stop her daily wanderings around supermarkets and cafés, today she asked a neighbour to do her shopping.

cameramonkey

Comhra wrote: »

You need these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex_obtusifolius

Blanco100

skimpydoo wrote: »

A good friend of mine Samantha Kelly aka the Tweeting Goddess has started a great new initiative for those of us who are like me and have to self-isolate as you can see below.

https://twitter.com/Tweetinggoddess/status/1237456130575646721?s=20

Great way to maintain your online profile whilst self isolating. I've heard it all now.

Beasty

Stheno wrote: »

Quite frankly I would refuse a job offer if I could not work from home

I think this whole situation will accelerate changes to the "office" culture

Previously I thought there would be a gradual move towards remote working over the next decade or so. As people, and businesses, face the reality of this virus I think they will realise they can get as much work done at home and perhaps commute once or twice a week. That way people get a better overall lifestyle and employers get happier employees. I can see this taking off over the next couple of years on the back of current "experiences" of working with this virus around

It will only work for office jobs, but it will still take a lot of pressure off public and private transport, and indeed will be better for the environment. It may also take a bit of pressure off the housing crisis as people realise they don't need to be wedded to the City centre. This may be one positive that comes out of this current situation.

SusanC10

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Didn’t even know they did a dating app.

That made me laugh! Thank you

all about the mane

d51984 wrote: »

Still amazed Cheltenham went ahead. Money talks I suppose.

It’s a disgrace

dubdaymo

It has all been handled badly by the "Health Authorities" worldwide and here. Unfortunately, our Govt copped out by declaring they were listening to them rather than using common sense. You don't need to be a medical expert to be able to foresee that continuing to allow flights to land here from Italy would inevitably spread the disease further.

The "experts" have failed. The horses are long since bolted. They have lost, spectacularly.

We need something like a CSDC (Common Sense Decision Committee) to take over now and to be there for future similar occurrences. To take immediate actions based on common sense. Forget about the self-important people inputting data into computers and producing useless graphs (like in the case of the "experts" in the Volcanic Ash disruption). The CSDC would be making decisions to win.

MCKG

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What area was this, wondering does it tie up with what I know.

Its south Galway.

thebaz

Still waters wrote: »

You could help yourself massively by staying off boards and social media, why do that to yourself if you suffer anxiety, do all you can to help yourself and give social media a break

just cause I suffer depression doenst mean I cant use social media or be aware of what is going on - but I do take a break - taking one now - and I keep threatening to end my boards account/ maybe I should, life might be nicer.

igCorcaigh

smelly sock wrote: »

No. Anyone in a high risk group is in huge trouble. I dont want to be alarmist but lets not bury our heads in the sand any longer.

Most of them should be OK. I'm very aware of how bad this is, but most do come through this. Even high risk groups.

CinemaGuy45

all about the mane wrote: »

So make people panic...great...

People could panic or take this thing serious.

Wash our paws and don't touch our snouts.
If the old can say in for a few weeks and avoid most visits and have their shopping delivered it would help so much.

If you were sitting on high speed train tracks would me telling you about the oncoming train be a bad thing causing panic?

twirlagig

all about the mane wrote: »

It will be everywhere. Just need to act sensibly

That’s exactly what I’m saying, most people on here know that. But not everyone is on boards and I really think a lot of people don’t think a fraction of the country will get it

Mellor

all about the mane wrote: »

Where are you getting the 5% figure? And why do people here always jump to the worst case scenario?

5% is about the current the resolved case death rate. Actually it’s 6% globally and 8% Italy.
5% is a reasonable figure to use at this point. Worst case I’d much higher.

Larbre34

The death rate worst scenario is based on

Population: 5 million

Estimated infection rate: 60% or 3 million

Mortality risk: 3% - 90,000 in the Republic or 125,000 on the island.

I can understand anxiety among the faithful around curtailed funeral practices but unfortunately this may become the new normal in the next 18 months. It doesn't mean funeral rites have to be set aside but there may be larger scale funerals of 5 or 6 people at a time, sent straight for cremation with very close family only permitted to be present.

If people have a faith then hopefully they can take comfort in it. For those that may be vulnerable it could be prudent to make proper arrangements for their wishes and succession.

Cilldara_2000

smelly sock wrote: »

No. Anyone in a high risk group is in huge trouble. I dont want to be alarmist but lets not bury our heads in the sand any longer.

This is not true. This is complete alarmism.

all about the mane

Beasty wrote: »

I think this whole situation will accelerate changes to the "office" culture

Previously I thought there would be a gradual move towards remote working over the next decade or so. As people, and businesses, face the reality of this virus I think they will realise they can get as much work done at home and perhaps commute once or twice a week. That way people get a better overall lifestyle and employers get happier employees. I can see this taking off over the next couple of years on the back of current "experiences" of working with this virus around

It will only work for office jobs, but it will still take a lot of pressure off public and private transport, and indeed will be better for the environment. It may also take a bit of pressure off the housing crisis as people realise they don't need to be wedded to the City centre. This may be one positive that comes out of this current situation.

We have seen more and more uptake in working from in the last year in my company. No doubt this will accelerate it massively.

ACitizenErased

Lads, WTF are the French doing?
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1237458264616570881?s=20

cameramonkey

fr336 wrote: »

Two things making me more panicky by the day - 1. Italy 2. The UK goverment today telling us that the peak of the outbreak here will be within 2 weeks. As someone with parents just turned 70 with underlying health conditions, it's like being told war will start in two weeks and there's nothing you can do about it.

You need to tell your parents to stay home and not have too many visitors and they will be fine.


There is no way the peak will be in two weeks, this will go on much longer.

Unearthly

Beasty wrote: »

I think this whole situation will accelerate changes to the "office" culture

Previously I thought there would be a gradual move towards remote working over the next decade or so. As people, and businesses, face the reality of this virus I think they will realise they can get as much work done at home and perhaps commute once or twice a week. That way people get a better overall lifestyle and employers get happier employees. I can see this taking off over the next couple of years on the back of current "experiences" of working with this virus around

It will only work for office jobs, but it will still take a lot of pressure off public and private transport, and indeed will be better for the environment. It may also take a bit of pressure off the housing crisis as people realise they don't need to be wedded to the City centre. This may be one positive that comes out of this current situation.

Yes was thinking the exact same thing. In my work there has been discussions about it and the higher management are 50/50 on it. Some of them are set in their ways and don't think it will work.

This forced scenario is an ideal pilot to show that it will work in my opinion. So many benefits

OneEightSeven

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Empty stadium in Valencia for the champions league game and it's looks really weird.

You can hear the fans chanting outside the stadium

Comhrá

Originally Posted by caveat emptor.

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What other measures do people feel strongly about on here that could help contain this outbreak?

I'd like to see the supermarkets put all their baked goods, bread, scones, tarts etc, along with their fruit & veg under wraps. Was in Dunnes and LIDL today and both had a lot of produce exposed to all & sundry. I didn't buy...

SeaBreezes

Good to see humans helping humans..

Nice one.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237435123072667649

all about the mane

Mellor wrote: »

5% is about the current the resolved case death rate. Actually it’s 6% globally and 8% Italy.
5% is a reasonable figure to use at this point. Worst case I’d much higher.

The number is way lower. This is pure scaremongering

Frank Bullitt

twirlagig wrote: »

I am not looking for panic stations at all.
Just awareness. I’d rather know where it was and that people take preventative measures rather than thinking ‘ah it’s probably not here they’re talking about’

The best thing you can do is take the measures yourself. Wash your hands, drink water, stay calm, live your life.

Even if you knew it was in a certain town, what would that achieve? You could go to that town and still not get it, that's not how the virus can be caught.

Easy.

odyssey06

fr336 wrote: »

Two things making me more panicky by the day - 1. Italy 2. The UK goverment today telling us that the peak of the outbreak here will be within 2 weeks. As someone with parents just turned 70 with underlying health conditions, it's like being told war will start in two weeks and there's nothing you can do about it.

Actually, the start of the UK peak of the coronavirus epidemic is expected within the next fortnight... the peak count run for weeks.

CinemaGuy45

Comhra wrote: »

I'd like to see the supermarkets put all their baked goods, bread, scones, tarts etc, along with their fruit & veg under wraps. Was in Dunnes and LIDL today and both had a lot of produce exposed to all & sundry. I didn't buy...

I was in LIDL a few weeks ago seem some lad drop a scone on the floor pick it up and put it back in the tray.

I NEVER buy anything that is not packed.

Graces7

Daniel Important Zen wrote: »

I would take it that his quality of life is dreadful. At some point death doesn't seem like a bad option. No visitors on the other hand make life even worse.

If she visits him in his room, going in without meeting other residents, masked etc?

Quantum Erasure

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

None of those links work for me?

try these

otnomart wrote: »

Italy publishes: number of tests; positives; hospitalised; in intensive care; age profile of victims; comorbidities of victims https://www.iss.it/coronavirus/-/asset_publisher/1SRKHcCJJQ7E/content/id/5292020? and http://opendatadpc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/dae18c330e8e4093

otnomart

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Good to see humans helping humans..

Nice one.

Yes

fr336

cameramonkey wrote: »

You need to tell your parents to stay home and not have too many visitors and they will be fine.


There is no way the peak will be in two weeks, this will go on much longer.

They're not listening. They're still going out at least three times a week shopping, mass etc. Taking precautions re hygeine and staying away from big crowds, cutting down time out but still going out all the same.

And I think the government meant the start of the peak unfortunately.

SpitfireIV

So I have an underlying illness (heart failure), I'm relatively fit, active, mid thirties, everything is good, for now. Seems though I'm in the 'old age or those with underlying condition bracket' when it comes to the stats, and itd seem its not the most desirable percentage to be in!!

It's been portrayed almost as a near death sentence for me, but even with my condition could I still just get a mild strain or if I did contract it just be mildly ill? ie having a condition doesnt mean you're buggered??!

CinemaGuy45

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Good to see humans helping humans..

Nice one.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237435123072667649

Fair play China I will give those commies one thing they are bloody efficient.


The HSE if asked what they want by the Chinese will answer beef with black bean sauce and 20,000 spring rolls.

Mellor

all about the mane wrote: »

The number is way lower. This is pure scaremongering

I’m not saying it will be the final number. We don’t know the final number. But that’s the current number. Not sure how you can argue otherwise.

It should trend down, but if health services reach capacity. Many people who could have recovered won’t. Basic stuff tbh.

Rebelbrowser

all about the mane wrote: »

The number is way lower. This is pure scaremongering

0.6% death rate in South Korea, 0.8% on that cruise ship where most were over 70, Italy figure based on their global figures that have only 1.4% of cases being under 19 which means they are missing loads and loads of v mild or asymptomatic cases in young people thus skewing figures. Date rate in a country forewarned will be less than 1% in all likelihood

JJayoo

Ryanair have suspended flights to and from Italy until April, but ****ing late but I suppose we couldn't expect Michael o Leary to miss out on making some cash by importing the virus, good lad mick

igCorcaigh

Larbre34 wrote: »

The death rate worst scenario is based on

Population: 5 million

Estimated infection rate: 60% or 3 million

Mortality risk: 3% - 90,000 in the Republic or 125,000 on the island.

I can understand anxiety among the faithful around curtailed funeral practices but unfortunately this may become the new normal in the next 18 months. It doesn't mean funeral rites have to be set aside but there may be larger scale funerals of 5 or 6 people at a time, sent straight for cremation with very close family only permitted to be present.

If people have a faith then hopefully they can take comfort in it. For those that may be vulnerable it could be prudent to make proper arrangements for their wishes and succession.

I think that is a reasonable comment.

This may play out over a year or two; or much less depending on our actions. Hope for the best though.

whiskeyman

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I was in LIDL a few weeks ago seem some lad drop a scone on the floor pick it up and put it back in the tray.

I NEVER buy anything that is not packed.

I reckon the huge push to get loose fruit / veg will be overlooked now as plastic wrapped will be seeked out.

Graces7

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Oh I doubt everyone on sm lie, but a significant number do for whatever sad reason they use to justify it to themselves.

Maybe part of the... factual inaccuracies... is what we used to call "Chinese whispers" after a party game, ie facts get blurred and altered as it is spread around? Innocent mistakes.

voluntary

Chile just imposed a quarantine on passengers arriving from Spain and Italy. Shouldn't we?

Naggdefy

The Chinese really are a grand bunch of lads.

Now contrast with the German behaviour yesterday..

twirlagig

SpitfireIV wrote: »

So I have an underlying illness (heart failure), I'm relatively fit, active, mid thirties, everything is good, for now. Seems though I'm in the 'old age or those with underlying condition bracket' when it comes to the stats, and itd seem its not the most desirable percentage to be in!!

It's been portrayed almost as a near death sentence for me, but even with my condition could I still just get a mild strain or if I did contract it just be mildly ill? ie having a condition doesnt mean you're buggered??!

You said you’re relatively fit and active Spitfire and that everything is good otherwise so you’re obviously doing something right regarding your illness. Just mind yourself and stay aware and be safe.

Cilldara_2000

SpitfireIV wrote: »

So I have an underlying illness (heart failure), I'm relatively fit, active, mid thirties, everything is good, for now. Seems though I'm in the 'old age or those with underlying condition bracket' when it comes to the stats, and itd seem its not the most desirable percentage to be in!!

It's been portrayed almost as a near death sentence for me, but even with my condition could I still just get a mild strain or if I did contract it just be mildly ill? ie having a condition doesnt mean you're buggered??!

Correct. The stats are out there, higher risk groups are just that; higher risk. Most people in any group have survived.

CinemaGuy45

Naggdefy wrote: »

The Chinese really are a grand bunch of lads.

Now contrast with the German behaviour yesterday..

What did the Germans do yesterday?

igCorcaigh

Mellor wrote: »

I’m not saying it will be the final number. We don’t know the final number. But that’s the current number. Not sure how you can argue otherwise.

It should trend down, but if health services reach capacity. Many people who could have recovered won’t. Basic stuff tbh.

Yeah, it really could go either way.
And we will never know the true mortality rate.

Although the cfr is inherently an underestimate of true mortality rate, it provides a metric for us to compare across countries, so is valuable in itself.

rainbowtrout

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

Unfortunately, he did actually say that.


https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/up-to-85000-irish-people-could-die-from-coronavirus-in-worst-case-scenario-taoiseach-indicates-as-three-more-diagnosed-39029363.html

hurikane

skimpydoo wrote: »

A good friend of mine Samantha Kelly aka the Tweeting Goddess has started a great new initiative for those of us who are like me and have to self-isolate as you can see below.

https://twitter.com/Tweetinggoddess/status/1237456130575646721?s=20

Isn’t she great using a virus to go viral.

igCorcaigh

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

What did the Germans do yesterday?

Stop exporting face masks I think.
Another poster mentioned it.

drunkmonkey

MCKG wrote: »

Its south Galway.

Different, this would be north east Clare