Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

CinemaGuy45

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There are bigger numbers coming tomorrow and the government are aware so expect some “changes”

Not doubting you but where is this information coming from?

Stripes11

Anyone have any idea as to how many people are currently in isolating?

Stevieluvsye

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

How long is a piece of string?

Where do you think but I’ll be banned if I said

ldy4mxonucwsq6

previous user wrote: »

Incorrect Ireland is now 50 cases of Corona virus.

The UK own some of them, not counted in Irelands figures.

Itssoeasy

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I feel that there is.

It helps to ridicule the pointless nonsense being spouted by those who don’t seem to understand how gov departments & ministers work.

The logic being applied is idiotic and deserves to be parodied

Oh okay I hadn't read the posts leading up to it so had little context. Fair enough actually as some of the rubbish posted here which is neither constructive nor true(social media and the like is a landfill) is amazing if it weren't so serious.

Yes some posters here for some reason want the health service to fail and some give the impression they alone could run the country and everyone in positions of power are feckless and have no idea what they are doing. I think the government and opposition parties are handling this as well as they can and seem to be trying to work together. I also think some of the comments towards the people charged with keeping us safe isn't even worth responding to. Our chief medical officer Dr Hollihin is doing a superb job and had certainly reassured me.

WoollyRedHat

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There are bigger numbers coming tomorrow and the government are aware so expect some “changes”

Is that you Simon?

paul71

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Realistically how Long can it last in ireland

For as long as there are still people in the country who don't have the immunity provided by previous infection or the vaccine we are still waiting for.

wakka12

the butcher wrote: »

Confirmed Cases
27th Jan China 4.4k 27th Feb Outside China 4.3k
28th Jan China 6k 28th Feb Outside China 5.3k
29th Jan China 7.7k 29th Feb Outside China 6.8k
30th Jan China 9.7k 1st March Outside China 8.5k
31st Jan China 11.2k 2nd March Outside China 10.3k
1st Feb China 14.3k 3rd March Outside China 12.7k
2nd Feb China 17.2k 4th March Outside China 14.9k
3rd Feb China 19.7k 5th March Outside China 17.5k
4th Feb China 23.7k 6th March Outside China 21.2k
5th Feb China 27.4k 7th March Outside China 25.2k
6th Feb China 30.6k 8th March Outside China 29.1k
7th Feb China 34.1k 9th March Outside China 32.8k
8th Feb China 36.8k 10th March Outside China 37.5k (so far)

This hurts my head

Widdensushi

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Whats the point in posting all that?

I find it very informative

gabeeg

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Realistically how Long can it last in ireland

it can become endemic, meaning it never stops circulating

like the flu and cold have done

Fr_Dougal

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

There are bigger numbers coming tomorrow and the government are aware so expect some “changes”

Saying that there are bigger numbers coming tomorrow is like saying the grass is green.

If you have some info, spit it out.

Posts like the above reminds me of ‘de fb huns who post about odder people an dey kno who dey r’ kinda crap.

Funsterdelux

Dr on tonight show

Close everything stop travel now!

Poor_old_gill

skimpydoo wrote: »

Who has the authority to make these unilateral decisions?

Probably just the Taoiseach and only after such an approach has been ratified by the rest of the dail

little bess

Daz_ wrote: »

Anyone thinking about going off the grid ? Eg maybe have a holiday home or just their main home - take time off work , kids out of school etc and just proper locking down ?

It has certainly crossed my mind to do so

I’d love to do that. I’m not working due to illness at the moment anyway, but I can’t imagine persuading my daughters, early twenties, to lock down. No way would they do it unless forced by government.

kowloon

If I could code for **** I'd strip the timestamps and numbers of all the posts on this and all the previous threads and make a nice little infographic of the post rate and new posts per day. How would it compare to the HSE and other figures for the virus? The post rate seems to have slowed today.

Harry Palmr

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Whats the point in posting all that?

Well if you had any clue about how different countries are handling this in very different ways the numbers would be illuminating.

Look at the USA and Italy v Germany and South Korea for example. As those have the most stark variance from the "mean"

Stevieluvsye

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Not doubting you but where is this information coming from?

Pm sent

gabeeg

Widdensushi wrote: »

I find it very informative

well it is a lot of information

YFlyer

Who is that Cillian gob****e on Tonight show?

Micky 32

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Where do you think but I’ll be banned if I said

Sure gives us a ballpark guess what you might think the figures could be

Larbre34

gabeeg wrote: »

it can become endemic, meaning it never stops circulating

like the flu and cold have done

Which is fine once herd resistance is built up globally and as younger generations age they'll carry those antibodies with them and reduce the acute level in older age.

CinemaGuy45

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Pm sent

Thanks for the PM:)

banie01

Askeaton are wanting to press ahead with their parade!
I've always had a bet theory that people from placenames beginning with A developed a bit of stupidity...
But fúck me!
This is sheer wanton reckless dangerous idiocy!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=227234065346523&id=110673040335960&comment_id=227312035338726&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&notif_id=1583881622363161&ref=m_notif&refid=48

skimpydoo

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Pm sent

Can you PM me too.

Shn99

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Pm sent

could you pm me too if you dont mind?

Itssoeasy

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Dr on tonight show

Close everything stop travel now!

I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.

froog

namloc1980 wrote: »

The decision not to test for community transmission until they pop up in hospital already ill is bordering on unforgivable at this stage.

how would you go about testing for community transmission?

Daz_

little bess wrote: »

I’d love to do that. I’m not working due to illness at the moment anyway, but I can’t imagine persuading my daughters, early twenties, to lock down. No way would they do it unless forced by government.

Yeah it’s drastic enough but I’m considering it . Try and get ahead of this !

Kaisr Sose

Widdensushi wrote: »

I find it very informative

Very good. IF you want, a quick Google search wull give current figures

Kermit.de.frog

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237513541369896961?s=20

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237514335288725504?s=20

Firstly was this included in today's cases?

Secondly the government needs to open up the criteria for testing to ALL to avoid potential sh!t shows like this.

drkpower

tobefrank321 wrote: »

This is very odd advice from the HSE. The sooner you lockdown the sooner its over. The longer you postpone lockdown the more cases you will have and the longer the lockdown will be.

The logic behind it is flawed

Not necessarily; if you impose draconian measures that are not capable of being sustained over a long period, and then those measures are stopped, or more likely ignored, all you do is push the epidemic curve back a few weeks. The ‘second’ curve hits when you have an economy in a worse state and a populus unwilling to comply.

That would be far far worse.

It’s not surprising that the medics advocating the early lockdown approach are clinicians and not public health doctors.

WoollyRedHat

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Very good. IF you want, a quick Google search wull give current figures

Maybe they want to follow in thread?

tobefrank321

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

He acts on advice given to him by the medical professionals in the HSE.
Also he doesn’t have the authority to make unilateral decisions to enforce shut downs, etc

Based on the advice on the HSE website that there was no need to isolate after returning from places like Northern Italy until you experienced symptoms (potentially infecting numerous people) he's getting really bad advice which he didn't bother to question.

cnocbui

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237513541369896961?s=20

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237514335288725504?s=20

Utterly staggering how deciding to test seems like a momentous last ditch herroic effort, done with reluctance.

Xertz

banie01 wrote: »

Askeaton are wanting to press ahead with their parade!

Doesn't look like the responses they're getting on Facebook to their idea are particularly supportive. It's an impressive reality check of public opinion!

Stevieluvsye

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Saying that there are bigger numbers coming tomorrow is like saying the grass is green.

If you have some info, spit it out.

Posts like the above reminds me of ‘de fb huns who post about odder people an dey kno who dey r’ kinda crap.

Pmd hun

skimpydoo

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.

I would trust Dr John Crown more. He has been bang on the money from day one. He is his putting his patients first.

Funsterdelux

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.

Good stuff

LuckyLloyd

Larbre34 wrote: »

Why is that, in that format, in any way useful?

I found it very illustrative

namloc1980

froog wrote: »

how would you go about testing for community transmission?

People with symptoms are being identified by GPs but because they haven't been recently traveling or had contact with a known case, GPs can't get them tested so they are being asked to self isolate. But they could've spread it at work, at home etc.

spookwoman

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Firstly was this included in today's cases?

Secondly the government needs to open up the criteria for testing to ALL to avoid potential sh!t shows like this.

Yep that's what was said that it was included in todays numbers
https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237455860395323392?s=20

and later posted https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237497101052936192?s=20

Shelga

Nadine Dorries, best known for being a hardcore Brexiter.

As with everyone else infected by this wretched virus, I hope she makes a speedy recovery. However, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all... I'll just leave this here instead.


https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/the-internet-reacts-as-hardline-brexiteer-nadine-dorries-is-given-a-job-in-government-1-6186723?jwsource=cl

SDKev

Daz_ wrote: »

Anyone thinking about going off the grid ? Eg maybe have a holiday home or just their main home - take time off work , kids out of school etc and just proper locking down ?

It has certainly crossed my mind to do so

We decided this today - one of my kids has been hospitalised a few times for asthma
One of the confirmed cases today is from the catchment area of their school

They won’t be back in school until we’ve a better understanding of how this will play out - they’re in primary school so no big exams

Strazdas

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Realistically how Long can it last in ireland

Trinity College Prof said on Six One News that it could be a seasonal virus and could start to seriously reduce in summer *or* it could be something weird and unpredictable.

They simply don't know at the moment and are watching the virus like a hawk.

Poor_old_gill

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Based on the advice on the HSE website that there was no need to isolate after returning from places like Northern Italy until you experienced symptoms (potentially infecting numerous people) he's getting really bad advice which he didn't bother to question.

So who should he be taking advice from?
Bearing in mind that he’s not a public health specialist.

Do you think that if someone else was in the role that they would clear out all the specialists in the HSE and bring in a completely new executive?

tobefrank321

drkpower wrote: »

Not necessarily; if you impose draconian measures that are not capable of being sustained over a long period, and then those measures are stopped, or more likely ignored, all you do is push the epidemic curve back a few weeks. The ‘second’ curve hits when you have an economy in a worse state and a populus unwilling to comply.

That would be far far worse.

It’s not surprising that the medics advocating the early lockdown approach are clinicians and not public health doctors.

And that's where fines and prison sentences for breaking lockdowns come into play which they will have to. If someone doesn't like draconian measures tough sh*t. This isn't a game you can opt out of because you don't like the rules.

little bess

Daz_ wrote: »

Yeah it’s drastic enough but I’m considering it . Try and get ahead of this !

Yeah, do it if you can! That’s what why’re doing in Italy now, so if you can protect your family and afford to self isolate I’d do it.
Unfortunately mine have adult minds of their own now!

wheresthebeef

namloc1980 wrote: »

The decision not to test for community transmission until they pop up in hospital already ill is bordering on unforgivable at this stage.

Agreed. It is also the most likely cause of depleting our numbers of active healthcare workers who can respond to this. Each case like this will result in 60 or more HCW's in self isolation at exactly the time their hospital needs them most.

antodeco

Can I have a PM too? Don't know what they're for, but I feel left out

drkpower

tobefrank321 wrote: »

And that's where fines and prison sentences for breaking lockdowns come into play which they will have to. If someone doesn't like draconian measures tough sh*t. This isn't a game you can opt out of because you don't like the rules.

That’s just silly; you can’t enforce that kid of approach. It’s easy to type, and I’m sure typing it makes you feel better; impossible to effect.