Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

SleetAndSnow

gabeeg wrote: »

Thanks man

111 cases per million people and they only have a pop of 1.4m so that’s a lot for such a small country. Slightly worrying alright

gabeeg

UsBus wrote: »

Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..

Stand up on a chair in the canteen and give them the full Jim Larkin. Hands and all.

EDit

DrumSteve wrote: »

TBF, I think they'll have to; don't think the Chinese haven't already reverse engineered it anyway.

I think that drug will sort a lot of this out tbh; they will make much more money from a treatment than a vaccine anyway.

Of note, remdesivir is administered as an IV infusion, so it has to be given by a healthcare professional in a healthcare setting. While it holds great promise in the long run, you will still need to access the health service to get it, so if that healthcare service is overwhelmed then you’re still gonna be screwed.

Graces7

Wibbs wrote: »

They should. My local pharmacist is already. Bumped into her yesterday and she mentioned they were getting masks and hand sanitiser, but only one each per customer and existing customers have preference over randomers. She told me the last fortnight has been a bit daft, with the occasional individual being insane and asking to buy whole boxes of gloves, hand wash and masks and a couple had screaming fits when they were told no. She told them to head off and had to threaten ringing the Guards on them. Apparently the latest thing they've been hit by is people trying to stock up on paracetamol.

Shakes head. Poor pharmacists are in the direct line of fire. This is when it is good to be loyal to local shops. I rely on prescription analgesia and always from the same pharmacy

It was in many ways an easier life before social media.

Cork Boy 53

Mango Joe wrote: »

I'd also suggest that now is finally the time to throw caution to the winds and take your sexy Neighbour or work Colleague into your arms in a passionate embrace followed by 3 or 4 minutes of amazing love-making......

OK. Try that with a work colleague preferably in full view of everyone else in the workplace and let us know how you get on.;)

laurah591

flynnlives wrote: »

im old enough to remember plenty of recessions. We survived those. We can survive this.

The US is absolutley ****ed. In a weeks time they wil easily be in Italy's postion.
A recession is coming regarldess.

What i dont want is us following the brits. They've accepted mass deaths.

I think we already have - along with the rest of Europe (genuinely hope im wrong)

Knex*

yourdeadwright wrote: »

iv heard washing hands will do basically nothing , As there virus is caught pover 90 % of the time through breathing

I'd stop listening to those people tbh.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

What's this?

They had a church that is a little odd. The church had a big thing in a city.

Members from the church got it at their big thing in the city. Then went back to their own towns and parishes and spread it their.

Church leadership was asked for a list of all members but because the church is a little odd they suffer low level discrimination.

The church leadership didn't want to give a list of their members so the state's contact tracing missed getting the people at the big ceremony and members of the church in their own parishes.

The church leadership was investigated for reckless endangerment and causing the spread of the virus. They ten handed over a list of their members and a list of people who attended their big ceremony.

touts

With one sentence Sean O'Rourke just cut the legs out from the horse racing industry claiming Cheltenham is safe.

"The Hand Sanitizers are being topped up, and the banks were well capitalised"

the deftone

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everywhere is affected though, including Ireland. So that would mean no flights at all. How long do you stay closed for? What happens if we all close down for a few months, things seem better, but then it all just kicks off again when we reopen.

Ireland wasn't infected a few weeks ago. We had the chance to aviod this but we didn't take it. Why? Stopping flights from affected areas wouldn't of stopped it getting here 100% but it would of greatly reduced our cases. Why didn't we do that? I don't understand.

Stopping flights now would still have a positive affect and I don't know why we still aren't doing it.

Saying this might not work anyway is no excuse for not trying.

spookwoman

Graces7 wrote: »

So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
Just WOW!

Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

And please mind your language! REALLY!

You said

Graces7 wrote: »

No necessarily, as folk with autoimmune problems cannot take vaccines,

You may have been told not to get vaccinated but that does not mean everyone else with autoimmune issues cannot.

Doctors and medical people advise everyone to get vaccinated for the Flu and like every medication SOME people will not be able to. Please do not make sweeping statements about people with autoimmune issues.

From CDC Site
People who SHOULD NOT get the flu shot:

Children younger than 6 months of age are too young to get a flu shot.
People with severe, life-threatening allergies to flu vaccine or any ingredient in the vaccine. This might include gelatin, antibiotics, or other ingredients. See Special Considerations Regarding Egg Allergy for more information about egg allergies and flu vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/whoshouldvax.htm

NIMAN

UsBus wrote: »

Company I work for has decided to let day shift employees finish up early, with evening & night shift doing the same. The idea being that no shift comes in contact with the next avoiding contact with other employees.
The company benefits, as if one shift is put out of action, production stays going in theory.

The utter stupidity of this was to funnel 200-300 day shift employees into a small crowded canteen, while they wait for the previous shift to leave the building.

The company is up in a heap, no one knows what is happening as all communication is word of mouth practically. Would be better off shut at this stage..

Work in a similar environment, and company frantically making plans to try to mitigate any potential effect on shift teams and day staff.

Some early ideas are functional team members not sitting in a group any more, but being spread out. Also not allowed to meet up in the canteen.

Shifts also not meeting at handover time.

Allowing people to work from home if possible, or alternate days, with staff missing each other this way.

Only small meetings, no more packed rooms. Talk that all meetings are about to be scrapped for a month. Webex meetings preferred.

Temperature monitoring on entry.

Bob24

cnocbui wrote: »

It's too late for banning flights to be of use once you have community transmission within your country. It might have worked two or three weeks ago with people going into quarantine from inbound flights than stopping them. Singapore showed the way but this country isn't run by smart people.

Agree it is too late to use it as a measure to prevent a national epidemic.

But I still don’t think travel restrictions (not necessarily banning flights) should be discarded altogether for that reason: once we eventually get our act together and realise we have to enact strong containment measures within the country, and once these measures hopefully bring the number of cases to a manageable level, we can’t afford to be importing cases from other countries which aren’t doing what it takes at the risk of ruining our own effort.

I saw today that anyone arriving to Beijing from abroad will now be quarantined for 14 days and I can see there point there: many Chinese have made massive efforts and have been sacrificing their economy and their daily lives for 2 months to bring this thing under control - it doesn’t make sense to directly allow entry for people from areas where this is not done.

Thewife

There would need to be some serious storm to have the strength to blow me and the tent away 🀣 I’d nearly go as far to say it’s impossible 🀣
Stay safe Graces7 , you seem to have it all under control and are used to isolation so you will be fine ðŸ™ðŸ» X

Graces7 wrote: »

I wish! Afraid a tent would take off.... Like I nearly do many days

But yes: I feel like an observer in all this. I live in permanent isolation as I am immunesuppressed and am under strict orders to see NO ONE. There is no way the bug can catch me

A thought though; if any there have holiday homes in rural places and you can, move there for a while?

Stay as safe as you can out there

PhoenixParker

namloc1980 wrote: »

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it.

Naggdefy wrote: »

You can travel from pharmacy to pharmacy though. In my provincial town there are 6 in walking distance. Some people do that.

Supermarkets sell it too.

marilynrr

laurah591 wrote: »

80% will have mild symptoms - but 1 in 5 will be serious!

My understanding of it was that 80% will be mild and just need to self isolate.

Out of the remaining 20% some might require just some monitoring or medical treatment in hospital, but that they won't necessarily be at serious risk.

Obviously then there are others where it will be serious, but nothing close to 20%.

ibarelycare

Graces7 wrote: »

So my GP AND consultants are wrong? WOW
Just WOW!

Even on the anti vaxx thread they want everyone who can to be vaccinated to protect folk with immune deficiency who cannot be vaccinated.

See how dangerous medical "advice" on this thread can be!

And please mind your language! REALLY!

I'm immunocompromised (I'm on methotrexate for psoriatic arthritis) and anyone with my condition is encouraged by medical professionals to get the flu vaccine every year.

dodzy

9 confirmed cases on the island of Eire on Sunday morning. Fast forward a mere 3 days later to yesterday.....and we have 50.

We're in real trouble here.

Leo still jetting off to the US this afternoon ?

gabeeg

laurah591 wrote: »

I think we already have - along with the rest of Europe (genuinely hope im wrong)

I think so too. "Flattening the curve" just slows the rate of infection, it doesn't stop people from getting it.

Though hopefully it'll be met by treatments and maybe even vaccines before it gets through the entire population.

Graces7

Boggles wrote: »

19 questions and not one question mark.

Hmmm. Maybe they think rhetorical questions do not need ??? lol

tobefrank321

ErnestBorgnine wrote: »

Michael Osterholm said it on the Rogan Podcast.

He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota.

I think possibly what he is referring to is that the virus can and does become airborne and is spread that way also. So if someone sneezes or coughs without covering their mouths, its highly likely the have made the virus airborne. If people carry out effective social isolation and if those who believe they are infected wear masks, this danger is reduced.

After that we know the virus can exist for a long time on surfaces. So potentially on door handles and the like. In this regard hand washing is effective to prevent transfer to the face.

In summary you need the full repertoire of hand washing, social isolation, sneezing/coughing into your elbow, no hand shaking, etc.

I think eventually they will have to restrict or shutdown public transport if they want to get on top of this. The Chinese did that I believe.

the deftone

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?

This doesn't seem like an obstacle that couldn't be overcome

cherryghost

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Poland don’t mess about, 25 cases and they close all schools.

Moldova have 3 cases and they've closed down all schools.

RandomViewer

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

What will happen of schools close and doctors and nurses can't go to work as they have nobody to mind their kids?

How many? You'd think every doctor was married to a nurse and they all have 6 kids under 10 if you believe the propaganda

RandomName2

martingriff wrote: »

So if we had halted Italian we would have had no cases really. Can you really say that as that is what your implying

Well yes.

As I said before, this thing doesn't spontaneously generate.

If nobody traveled to and from China in January no other country would have been infected with the disease.

If nobody traveled from Ireland to northern Italy in February, we wouldn't have got the disease.

It can only spread from human to human. It literally cannot survive without a human host.

If a country doesn't have the disease, nobody in the country can get the disease.

Axfrderr

dodzy wrote: »

9 confirmed cases on the island of Eire

Huh?

yourdeadwright

Joe Rogan of all people had a great podcast last night about the Virus with Michael Osterholm

Basically this will only truly stop when the majority of people have caught it and build up an immune system,
Stopping cold and flu's (same family) from spreading is like trying to stop the wind,
Hand sanitizing won't really change anything as you breath it in ,
This is here for 6 to 9 month or longer so stopping how we live really shouldn't be an option ,
Warm weather won't stop it
Cancelling schools may have a worse effect, Most nurse's are mother's who then have to take time off to mind the kids,
Figure of the % who die from it is much lower than reported as so many will have it and never know so aren't counted

tillyfilly

Have we crossed the Rubicon yet?

tobefrank321

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I think possibly what he is referring to is that the virus can and does become airborne and is spread that way also. So if someone sneezes or coughs without covering their mouths, its highly likely the have made the virus airborne. If people carry out effective social isolation and if those who believe they are infected wear masks, this danger is reduced.

What he said was very clear and does not need reframing.

Ulysses Gaze

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 3,000 die is car accidents EVERYDAY...10 MILLION people die of cancer EVERY YEAR...The media/RTE are a joke they even hype up 60mph storms like they are Catergory 5 Hurricanes

:rolleyes:

Maybe different for other people here, but I'll listen to world renowned experts like Michael Osterholm who have studied contagions for decades rather than hard chaws on Boards.ie slating everyone and everything because they can't get their gargle on Paddy's Day.