Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Hamsterchops

Only three new cases!

So that makes 24.

Was expecting many more.....

Cuckoo7

Graces7 wrote: »

Thank you for this post.We did right by slowly and gradually getting extra stocks in. Thankfully folk around me wholeheartedly supported this. Long term isolation because of being immunocompromised makes us careful where supplies are concerned. And inconsiderate to ask folk later to shop because we did not make provision and are too unwell or with symptoms and need to self isolate.

I may be wrong but I think that those who have been prepping well ahead of time have done so much more rationally than those that will descend upon their local Tesco the moment we hit a big increase in infected.

otnomart

Ipso wrote: »

It's a lot of resources that are required.

Yes
Wish everyone starts realising that "Intensive Care" is not just a bed in a unit.

is_that_so

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

So quadruple the figures based on how many were tested. I’m expecting a few hundred by the weekend

Tests or cases?

Level 42

Stheno wrote: »

In my office if you so much as have a runny nose you wfh for 14 days

Any possible contact or even being on a flight same rule.

Ott no. People with runny noses is everywhere what abt people that don't have a job and are carrying on.
Pure panic weak governments click bate news from media

Miike

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

Specific clinical presentations are not discussed publicly due to the current small number of cases in Ireland at this very moment. It presents a serious confidentiality concern.

jackboy

banie01 wrote: »

The number presented by the HSE is far better than many of us expected.

It really does mean the throughput of the testing service needs to be shared.

There are significant numbers of people known to be exposed up to last Friday.
The Glasnevin school, the band, the 177 medical staff already exposed and the contact tracing of other known cases has to account for a large of the 1000 tests that were spoken about last Friday.

How many have made it through the NVLS process since?
I posted earlier that I was expecting @35 to tally with numbers I had been privy to.

The small rise, albeit welcome doesn't tally with information to hand.

The number of differential versus confirmed diagnosis is still not disclosed.

The number in isolation, doesn't tally with the number of diagnosis and be it due to a clogged system or misreporting?

Something is amiss somewhere.

How soon are individuals being tested after contact with infected persons? If these tests are done too soon the results are probably meaningless.

jam_mac_jam

3 extra cases is great news. Not for those people but overall

Naggdefy

3 is positive for now.

Though we don't really know where we are yet.

I wouldn't trust that Holohan as far as I'd throw him. Shifty looking..

banie01

Miike wrote: »

Just want to be clear on something, these kind of statements are lethal. Socially and professionally. I'd recommend treading carefully with them

Appreciated, but no point in my back pedalling on it now.

completedit

If you have the flu randomly right now, is there a chance you’ve got it? Got knocked back for six at Christmas and now sick again. Usually, never get sick but seem to be getting knocked back regularly enough, I was in a few different countries at different points before January so might explain why I caught it at different stages

Spanish Eyes

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Have you entirely missed the bit where they announced a €3bn package to help the self employed and those not entitled to sick pay?

No. And I agree fully with it. Money well spent IMO.

But what does containment mean really?

That might save a few of those billions.

Stevieluvsye

Loughc wrote: »

I’ll take that bet

People are afraid to visit the hospital and quacks. This is going to get really serious and soon

Miike

Naggdefy wrote: »

3 is positive for now.

Though we don't really know where we are yet.

I wouldn't trust that Holohan as far as I'd throw him. Shifty looking..

We have the same information about the 3 new cases as we've had about all other cases in the state.

dark crystal

Naggdefy wrote: »

3 is positive for now.

Though we don't really know where we are yet.

I wouldn't trust that Holohan as far as I'd throw him. Shifty looking..

:rolleyes:

froog

slightly worrying that the global death rate of closed cases has actually risen for the first time. hopefully just an anomaly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

lainey_d_123

Stheno wrote: »

In my office if you so much as have a runny nose you wfh for 14 days

Any possible contact or even being on a flight same rule.

This should be the case for everyone. Can't understand for the life of me why every company isn't saying this. We need to make it basically socially unacceptable to be out in public with obvious cold/flu symptoms - there is NO way of knowing whether it's just a cold or coronavirus.

Lad in my office sitting there coughing and sneezing all day - why the fck can't these people just stay at home?

autumnbelle

Any one know the condition of the people infected in Ireland? Can’t afford to stockpile food so trying to add a few extra bits to weekly shop

4068ac1elhodqr

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

I may be wrong but I think that those who have been prepping well ahead of time have done so much more rationally than those that will descend upon their local Tesco the moment we hit a big increase in infected.

When the folks in Wuhan started welding people into buildings, beating stray dogs to death in the streets and a full-scale city-wide curfew in December the time for the 'big shop' was approriate.

Raconteuse

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

gabeeg

The reason why it's only 3 cases is probably down to the HSE's strict testing criteria

If you ring them because you have all the symptoms, they won't test you unless you've been to one of the following areas recently:

China
Hong Kong
Iran
the following regions in Italy - Lombardy, Veneto, Emilia-Romagna and Piedmont
Japan
Singapore
Republic of Korea (South Korea)

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/affectedareas/

That list is hopelessly out of date. We're in big trouble.

Inquitus

French minister has caught COVID-19

https://twitter.com/afpfr/status/1237090636760854528

dougm1970

whats the current total for whole island of ireland ?

Hodors Appletart

any numbers for the north?

thebaz

Ariah Happy Rooster wrote: »

Italy are no where even slightly close to any concept of a 'peak', they are still at phase 1, maybe early phase 2 of a 12wk seasonal pandemic, that won't suddenly stop even at peak of late May, early June.

South Korea figures did not take that long to drop , you dont know , I dont know - I just hope that peak for Italy comes soon , I believed the death rate actually dropped, when I would have expected it to increase by a lot for today.

Anita Blow

banie01 wrote: »

The number presented by the HSE is far better than many of us expected.

It really does mean the throughput of the testing service needs to be shared.

There are significant numbers of people known to be exposed up to last Friday.
The Glasnevin school, the band, the 177 medical staff already exposed and the contact tracing of other known cases has to account for a large of the 1000 tests that were spoken about last Friday.

How many have made it through the NVLS process since?
I posted earlier that I was expecting @35 to tally with numbers I had been privy to.

The small rise, albeit welcome doesn't tally with information to hand.

The number of differential versus confirmed diagnosis is still not disclosed.

The number in isolation, doesn't tally with the number of diagnosis and be it due to a clogged system or misreporting?

Something is amiss somewhere.

The number in isolation isn't an accurate reflection of confirmed cases. Flu-like illness is very common and in the vast majority of cases doesn't represent COVID. However, anyone presenting with such an illness to hospital is being admitted for investigation to an isolation unit. The majority of those in our isolation units do not have the disease.

banie01

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

that you are privy to? you must be a very important person indeed

Far from important, would you rather I'd used a different word than "privy" maybe?

It fits how I came by the info, what would you rather I'd said?

Hamsterchops

froog wrote: »

slightly worrying that the global death rate of closed cases has actually risen for the first time. hopefully just an anomaly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

...or, you might be really positive and acknowledge that we've only had an extra three cases in the ROI.

Raconteuse

dark crystal wrote: »

:rolleyes:

It's like: "he's an Irish public servant, therefore dodgy".

expectationlost

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

a couple of them atleast in serious condition as per radio this morning.

pjohnson

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Lad in my office sitting there coughing and sneezing all day - why the fck can't these people just stay at home?

Probably one of the "sure the virus is just the flu anyway" wastes of skin.

dark crystal

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

This should be the case for everyone. Can't understand for the life of me why every company isn't saying this. We need to make it basically socially unacceptable to be out in public with obvious cold/flu symptoms - there is NO way of knowing whether it's just a cold or coronavirus.

Lad in my office sitting there coughing and sneezing all day - why the fck can't these people just stay at home?

People with colds won't get paid to stay in isolation for two weeks.

Have you read the guidelines at all?

cnocbui

Stheno wrote: »

Three weeks of intensive care though?

I think the average is 31 days for recovery.

NIMAN

When all the panic is over and we look back on this in say a years time, will be interesting to see how the no of deaths compares to the season flu, cancer, car crashes, diabetes etc.

4068ac1elhodqr

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

Partialy pot-luck one single super-carrier (shows the ease of transmission).

It's also a very dense populated area, 11m circa. Perhaps 2nd in the Europe after the blue bannana area in the NW, then Ldn, then N.Eng.

fritzelly

dougm1970 wrote: »

whats the current total for whole island of ireland ?

36

amadangomor

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

Been reported that a new case from the weekend - a woman from the East has an underlying condition and is very ill - it is on the RTE website

Naggdefy

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

Spain, France and Germany are rising at the same rate as Italy 10 days ago.

dmc17

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

The RTE article from yesterday mentioned somebody seriously ill

The new cases in the Republic involve a male in a hospital in the south of the country and a female in the east of the country, who has an underlying illness and is seriously ill.

Hodors Appletart

banie01 wrote: »

Far from important, would you rather I'd used a different word than "privy" maybe?

It fits how I came by the info, what would you rather I'd said?

tell us how you "came by it" or let me guess

"you can't say"

jog on walter

Hodors Appletart

fritzelly wrote: »

36

this implies no more cases in the north

is that right?

ZX7R

froog wrote: »

slightly worrying that the global death rate of closed cases has actually risen for the first time. hopefully just an anomaly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

That is down to the numbers in Italy.
Sadly they will end up with a high tally do to the age of the population in the affected region.

PopePalpatine

TimeToShine wrote: »

I find it virtually impossible to believe the same virus that has infected thousands in the space of a couple of days in Italy and Spain has racked up less than ten here. Impossible.

...perhaps the archives are incomplete.

Cuckoo7

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

That’s where the fashion industry is?
A lot of Chinese working there in factories and such.

is_that_so

expectationlost wrote: »

a couple of them at least in serious condition as per radio this morning.

Yeah the man from Cork and the lady in the east.

Funsterdelux

From what they are saying in the press briefing there could be something of an issue with an African country?

is_that_so

ZX7R wrote: »

That is down to the numbers in Italy.
Sadly they will end up with a high tally do to the age of the population in the affected region.

23% over 65 in Lombardy.

4068ac1elhodqr

NIMAN wrote: »

When all the panic is over and we look back on this in say a years time, will be interesting to see how the no of deaths compares to the season flu, cancer, car crashes, diabetes etc.

There will be a 'recovery' period during July/August allowing some widespread re-normalisation.

Winter in Nov+ may hold some risks, until vax early Spring 21.
Would not take v1 of a rushed vax, won't need it anyway (personally).
If you're over 60, take the vax as soon as it's out.

Sir Oxman

Cw85 wrote: »

3 new cases, seems to be fairly well contained here, nowhere near the number of most EU countries and the UK. Crises averted I think.

UK is at 4.7 per million people
Ireland is at 4.3 per million

Spanish Eyes

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

I read somewhere so take it with caution that Milan is the so called "centre of fashion". It appears to be run by Chinese, who import a lot of workers to work in the industry on low wages and conditions.

They are sent back and forth for visa reasons or something.

But no proof, and nothing in MSM but sounds like there could be something behind it too.