Fuel prices - Coronavirus

Danno

mikeecho wrote: »

BTW .. the carbon tax on Kero is kicking in on 1st May, that'll add 2c/l

https://www.thejournal.ie/budget-carbon-tax-4842117-Oct2019/

I am purposely holding out buying until the prices appear to have floored, but will make a point of ordering before May 1st just to avoid that scam tax. They can go flip for at least one year/winter season.

mikeecho

Just bear in mind that some people are storing fuel, they believe that fuel shortages might happen due to covid19.

If such shortages were to happen, I don't think Jonny will be driving his home heating oil truck, he'll be at home sick.

If /when it looks like the virus is exploding in your area.. fill up

vectra

samih wrote: »

DPF regen kicked in soon after the refuel? .

Nope.
It dropped from 50 ish mpg to 43 on identical runs.
It took several fills to get it back up again.
Strange one.

JCX BXC

You'll always have a money loving John willing to drive his van anywhere for a few quid.

It's more an issue of picking your time to buy your fuel.

However, your post reads as if pushing people towards mad stockpiling, which is very damaging imo. The stock piling madness is completely excessive considering that 0.00000068% of the population has been infected.

It's utter madness, the behaviour I've seen in supermarkets over the last week has been disgraceful, and if you are apart of this, shame on you.

If you cannot relate to reality and are particularly worried about this outbreak, at least try to remember, if this gets worse, products such as hand sanitizer, soap and everyday essentials are much more important to vulnerable and elderly people, than those <50+ with no health issues.

jmreire

samih wrote: »

DPF regen kicked in soon after the refuel? On my Sprinter the fuel consumption increases by approx. 20 percent when the regen is happening for maybe 20 kilometers at the time. And this happens normally roughly once per tankful but sometimes once in a while a tankful of fuel slips through without a single regen cycle.

On the Merc you can hear a change in exhaust note and a whistling sound when the DPF regen is happening.

On the Merc, have you ever scanned it to see when ( at what mileage) it last performed a regen?

mikeecho

JCX BXC wrote: »

You'll always have a money loving John willing to drive his van anywhere for a few quid.

It's more an issue of picking your time to buy your fuel.

However, your post reads as if pushing people towards mad stockpiling, which is very damaging imo. The stock piling madness is completely excessive considering that 0.00000068% of the population has been infected.

It's utter madness, the behaviour I've seen in supermarkets over the last week has been disgraceful, and if you are apart of this, shame on you.

If you cannot relate to reality and are particularly worried about this outbreak, at least try to remember, if this gets worse, products such as hand sanitizer, soap and everyday essentials are much more important to vulnerable and elderly people, than those <50+ with no health issues.

I'm well stocked.
I'll have fuel
I'll have food
I have soap..
I don't have have sanitizer
I have frozen dinners
I have dried food.

I have common sense.

And I plan on getting some petrol for a generator to keep the deep freezer going.

*Nothing to do with motors

2lazytogetup

if the current world oil price is about 33dollars a barrell, anyone know what the average litre price in ireland should be based on this. i know there are taxes. Around 2009 i recall paying about 1.24euro a litre for petrol . I think taxes have gone up since then, esp carbon tax. But my local petrol station is showing about 1.44euro a litre. will it drop much more?

Miscreant

2lazytogetup wrote: »

if the current world oil price is about 33dollars a barrell, anyone know what the average litre price in ireland should be based on this. i know there are taxes. Around 2009 i recall paying about 1.24euro a litre for petrol . I think taxes have gone up since then, esp carbon tax. But my local petrol station is showing about 1.44euro a litre. will it drop much more?

This info is in post 31: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112771670&postcount=31

Works out at just over €1 just for taxes and duty if oil is free and about €1.29 at $35 a barrel

air

Darc19 wrote: »

119 litres in a barrel of fuel. So at last week's $46 av price, the oil cost would add about 40c (Inc vat) to the €1, giving a forecourt price of €1.40

It's 159L per barrel I think.
A barrel of crude can't all be turned into light fuels like petrol & diesel either though so it's not quite as simple as your calculation makes out.

Darc19

air wrote: »

It's 159L per barrel I think.
A barrel of crude can't all be turned into light fuels like petrol & diesel either though so it's not quite as simple as your calculation makes out.

It is 159. It's a while since I was involved on a regular basis.

And it's the brent price we work on in Europe and it is about $36

If it stays at $36 ish, petrol should be under €1.30 on average with plenty of places close to €1.25
Diesel 10c or so less.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

JCX BXC wrote: »

You'll always have a money loving John willing to drive his van anywhere for a few quid.

It's more an issue of picking your time to buy your fuel.

However, your post reads as if pushing people towards mad stockpiling, which is very damaging imo. The stock piling madness is completely excessive considering that 0.00000068% of the population has been infected.

It's utter madness, the behaviour I've seen in supermarkets over the last week has been disgraceful, and if you are apart of this, shame on you.

If you cannot relate to reality and are particularly worried about this outbreak, at least try to remember, if this gets worse, products such as hand sanitizer, soap and everyday essentials are much more important to vulnerable and elderly people, than those <50+ with no health issues.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Gael23

Darc19 wrote: »

It is 159. It's a while since I was involved on a regular basis.

And it's the brent price we work on in Europe and it is about $36

If it stays at $36 ish, petrol should be under €1.30 on average with plenty of places close to €1.25
Diesel 10c or so less.

How soon?

Darc19

Gael23 wrote: »

How soon?

I'm guessing 2 weeks or a little shorter. I'm hoping my own oil will last that long

jmreire

jmreire wrote: »

On the Merc, have you ever scanned it to see when ( at what mileage) it last performed a regen?

Never did as it's easy to hear when a regen happens. It's a camper van and the first time I spotted the whistling I was sure I had developed a major boost leak and only copped on the true cause later on.

My wife thinks I'm strange when I ask her to listen the "different" noises.

hoodie6029

Slightly OT but does anyone know what happened pumps.ie? It stopped working about a year ago. What are people using now to track prices locally?

marcos_94

hoodie6029 wrote: »

Slightly OT but does anyone know what happened pumps.ie? It stopped working about a year ago. What are people using now to track prices locally?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057969828

Its gone but someone claims to be working on getting something similar up and running

Gael23

Bound to fall pretty sharply after today

bear1

Gael23 wrote: »

Bound to fall pretty sharply after today

The banning of flights to the us?

tom1ie

mikeecho wrote: »

Home heating oil Kero has dropped about 15% in a month or so.

Petrol near me has dropped from 1.459 to 1.379.
Diesel down from 1.339 to 128.9.

Where is this?

R.O.R

Applegreen's on the way to the M1 this morning had dropped by 10c overnight.

Circle K at Citynorth hadn't dropped, but it was fairly early - usually they are around the same price as the Applegreen's to compete.

Gael23

bear1 wrote: »

The banning of flights to the us?

That and schools/offices closing will force retailers to play ball and pass on cuts

Cape Clear

Gael23 wrote: »

That and schools/offices closing will force retailers to play ball and pass on cuts

Any risk to supply at the moment?

runawaybishop

Gael23 wrote: »

Bound to fall pretty sharply after today

Diesel was 123 when I filled up at the weekend, up a few cents since

Irishphotodesk

https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2020/03/13/business/irish/applegreen-fuel-prices-down-10c/amp

Apple green dropping price by 10c

Gael23

Cape Clear wrote: »

Any risk to supply at the moment?

There is no reduction in supply but demand is plummeting, Hence oil prices hitting the floor

runawaybishop

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2020/03/13/business/irish/applegreen-fuel-prices-down-10c/amp

Apple green dropping price by 10c

Yeah, down to 121 now

vectra

Petrol = 132.9
Diesel = 122.9
Texaco Fermoy

JCX BXC

Applegreen Darragh (N68 - Outside Ennis) has the cheapest prices I've seen anywhere.

Petrol: 128.8
Diesel: 118.8

Odyssey 2005

Couple of minutes ago

Darc19

Expect another 5c down next weekend

Gael23

Once one drops they will all follow suit reasonably quickly

CoBo55

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Couple of minutes ago

The same as bunclody.

Sierra Oscar

Gael23 wrote: »

There is no reduction in supply but demand is plummeting, Hence oil prices hitting the floor

Supply has increased fairly dramatically as Saudi Arabia have increased production from 10m barrels a day to 13m. Coupled with plummeting demand I'd say we will see hefty price drops at the pumps.

Of course Saudi Arabia could cut off supply just as quick if it suits them to do so in the coming weeks.

con747

A pity the home heating oil companies are dragging their heels with price reductions.

Odyssey 2005

con747 wrote: »

A pity the home heating oil companies are dragging their heels with price reductions.

Apparently there is a kero scarcity.

Cantona's Collars

CoBo55 wrote: »

The same as bunclody.

Only ten minutes or so down the road in Enniscorthy,they are dragging their heels in dropping prices. Applegreen is currently 122.9 for diesel but the others around the town are between 126.9 and 129.9 per litre.
In Castlebridge it's 115.9 for diesel.

con747

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Apparently there is a kero scarcity.

Not in Meath/Westmeath, I was ringing my usual suppliers and asking them the question and all I got was we set prices according to the market. The market is on the floor, Brent crude is $28.87 right now. The Dollar is fairly static so no reason for the slow reduction in price. They could all deliver me Kerosene at the inflated price so supply is not an issue.

con747

Example of the prices in Meath. https://www.cheapestoil.ie/heating-oil-prices/Meath

Field east

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Only ten minutes or so down the road in Enniscorthy,they are dragging their heels in dropping prices. Applegreen is currently 122.9 for diesel but the others around the town are between 126.9 and 129.9 per litre.
In Castlebridge it's 115.9 for diesel.

Diesel in urlingford - Kilkenny now at 110.9

mountgomery burns

Field east wrote: »

Diesel in urlingford - Kilkenny now at 110.9

What price is petrol?

Fabio

Any app or website to track this stuff, something like the old pumps.ie???

con747

Fabio wrote: »

Any app or website to track this stuff, something like the old pumps.ie???

Most people are using the Waze app.

bear1

Different country and taxes etc but in Warsaw I've seen petrol and diesel drop about 30% in the last few days.
I can get 95 for around 80 cents a litre.
Start of march it was around 1.20e