what CoronaVirus precautions are your club taking?

GolfNut33

Looks like they're banning gatherings in open spaces and public parks. We cant possibly escape this, can we?

Keano

GolfNut33 wrote: »

Looks like they're banning gatherings in open spaces and public parks. We cant possibly escape this, can we?

Unlikey! I'm down to play my first game in months this weekend...

gypsy79

This is about containment, not stopping it altogether. That cant happen in western world as we cant take the steps the Chinese did.

The UKs principle of herd immunity turned out not to be correct.

The number of cases are significantly higher is some countries than been reported in others. I know two people (one in UK and one in Sweden) who have had it and not even been tested.

If we can do social distancing correctly we can control the spread. Ideally we would like to keep cases at slightly higher than they are now. That is controllable.

I hope we are a little bit away from UK measures IF we are all sensible

Keano

gypsy79 wrote: »

This is about containment, not stopping it altogether. That cant happen in western world as we cant take the steps the Chinese did.

The UKs principle of herd immunity turned out not to be correct.

The number of cases are significantly higher is some countries than been reported in others. I know two people (one in UK and one in Sweden) who have had it and not even been tested.

If we can do social distancing correctly we can control the spread. Ideally we would like to keep cases at slightly higher than they are now. That is controllable.

I hope we are a little bit away from UK measures IF we are all sensible

Last weekend showed people cannot and will not listen to the advice. The government will be left with no choice

spacecoyote

gypsy79 wrote: »

If we can do social distancing correctly we can control the spread. Ideally we would like to keep cases at slightly higher than they are now. That is controllable.

The FT do good updates and tracking daily. They had a set of graphs showing how countries are trending relative to how things went in Italy, and Irelands tracking numbers were almost identical to Italys, so I would say that we don't want the pace getting any higher than it is, based on the state of Italy now

gypsy79

spacecoyote wrote: »

The FT do good updates and tracking daily. They had a set of graphs showing how countries are trending relative to how things went in Italy, and Irelands tracking numbers were almost identical to Italys, so I would say that we don't want the pace getting any higher than it is, based on the state of Italy now

The issue with comparing these statistics are like comparing apples and oranges due to the different levels of testing in different countries. The United States is a massive one here. New York is a massive outlier there. So the distance we live apart should help!!

It appears the average age of the population is a massive contributor (see Spain and Italy)

We are following WHO recommendations to TEST TEST TEST. Others are not or cannot.

spacecoyote

gypsy79 wrote: »

The issue with comparing these statistics are like comparing apples and oranges due to the different levels of testing in different countries. The United States is a massive one here. New York is a massive outlier there. So the distance we live apart should help!!

It appears the average age of the population is a massive contributor (see Spain and Italy)

We are following WHO recommendations to TEST TEST TEST. Others are not or cannot.

I understand all of that, my criticism was more of your point that you think we should be seeing a higher level of cases.

Everyone in government & health services is screaming flatten the curve, so I'm not sure of your logic to suggest we need higher case load.

We had an enormous issue with bed shortages in the system before this all kicked off, so I don't know that our system is capable of handling any further spikes?

Poker Face

The following is a joint statement from the GUI and ILGU in relation to the current coronavirus pandemic, issued at 11.10am this morning.



Golf in Northern Ireland:



In its latest measures to contain the spread of Coronavirus (COVID-19), the UK Government has announced that everyone in the UK must now stay at home except in exceptional circumstances.


The new measures state that people in the UK may only leave home:

to go to work (if you are a key worker)
to infrequently shop for groceries, medicine and other essentials
to exercise outside once a day
to provide care or help a vulnerable person
for any medical need



While golf is an outdoor sport that allows players to exercise in the fresh air, the message is clear. People must stay at home to help to contain the spread of COVID-19.



With this in mind, it is the view of the GUI and ILGU that all golf clubs in Northern Ireland must close their facilities with immediate effect.



Such closures will have a significant impact on golf clubs and we continue to consult with industry partners to provide clubs with all information and support possible during this time of deep uncertainty.



We know that these decisions are difficult ones to make, but right now, it is our shared responsibility to prioritise the health of our local communities by working together to follow the UK Government guidelines. In doing so, this will ensure that we get the opportunity to play the game that we all love as soon as it is safe to do so.



For security and essential maintenance purposes, greenkeeping staff can still attend work. All work must be carried out in strict accordance with government guidelines on social (physical) distancing. Clubs should divide course staff into two teams where possible and if one becomes unavailable, the other team will still be okay to work.

Golf in the Republic of Ireland:

The GUI and ILGU have consistently reflected the advice of expert medical professionals in advising our member clubs.



It is anticipated that an update on the period of restriction will be made soon by the Irish Government, after which we will issue an updated statement in relation to golf in the Republic of Ireland.



You will appreciate that this is a very fluid situation with new developments almost daily. We will continue to liaise with the appropriate authorities, and will ensure that our clubs are kept informed as to recommended best practice at all times.



HSE: http://www.hse.ie or PHANI: https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/

Lefty2Guns

What do people make of the latest Government announcements on outdoor gatherings of no more than 4 people at a time. Anybody think courses may remain open based on this latest lock-down measure.

mafc

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

What do people make of the latest Government announcements on outdoor gatherings of no more than 4 people at a time. Anybody think courses may remain open based on this latest lock-down measure.

Reads that way, guess we’ll have to wait and see what the GUI has to say.

FixdePitchmark

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

What do people make of the latest Government announcements on outdoor gatherings of no more than 4 people at a time. Anybody think courses may remain open based on this latest lock-down measure.

Its ambiguous.

Did he mention all sport ?

HighLine

"Clubs" in the context read below has to imply sports clubs IMO.

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1242482772028952577?s=20

CalamariFritti

Lads if you can get it from playing golf with the current measures in place then you will get it anywhere. Its still droplets that have to get into/onto your soft wet face tissue. Its not airborne and its not the zombie virus. Will people please switch their brains back on for minute amidst all the hysteria?

And to those smartarses...we have to be expert virologists now to express an opinion, yes? I assume thats what you all are then?

You put enough people into a room and give them enough time to think there will always be 'we can do more'. Whether it makes sense is another matter though.

Ah_go_on

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Its ambiguous.

Did he mention all sport ?

He stated clubs. Unfortunately I think that means we won’t be playing for a while.

Glebee

Unnecessary travel is really the main point. Its not a necessity to play golf unfortunatly.

GreeBo

We are not closing yet anyway.

The announcement was a little unclear.

No unnecessary travel yet they talk about groups of four from the same household being ok...

I guess the fact that they stressed "this is not a lockdown" means we are still ok to play, assuming we take the necessary, commonsense measures.

Either way, I'm heading off for a few holes tonight!

Roger_007

Ah_go_on wrote: »

He stated clubs. Unfortunately I think that means we won’t be playing for a while.

There could be an unintended financial benefit for some golf clubs in all this. If golf clubs are closed, some staff could be laid off and claim the new social welfare benefit while the club has the membership subs safely in the bank.
They would lose green fees but in our club that doesn’t amount to much. I’d guess that the prestige clubs who make a fortune from green fee golf won’t be too happy.
But, I suppose that none of these things are really all that important in the grand scheme of things.

Down9194

Ah_go_on wrote: »

He stated clubs. Unfortunately I think that means we won’t be playing for a while.

I think by club he means social clubs. GUI I assume will clarify before day is out

Seve OB

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

What do people make of the latest Government announcements on outdoor gatherings of no more than 4 people at a time. Anybody think courses may remain open based on this latest lock-down measure.

no

Ah_go_on

Roger_007 wrote: »

There could be an unintended financial benefit for some golf clubs in all this. If golf clubs are closed, some staff could be laid off and claim the new social welfare benefit while the club has the membership subs safely in the bank.
They would lose green fees but in our club that doesn’t amount to much. I’d guess that the prestige clubs who make a fortune from green fee golf won’t be too happy.
But, I suppose that none of these things are really all that important in the grand scheme of things.

Good point. I just joined new club last week and handed over the guts of €2k. Really hope I can get some value out of it now.

Seve OB

Glebee wrote: »

Unnecessary travel is really the main point. Its not a necessity to play golf unfortunatly.

some people still don't get that!:rolleyes:

redzerdrog

Golf 100% gone for the time being.

Poker Face

GUI & ILGU Recommend Golf Clubs & Facilities To Close



Urgent response requires all golf clubs, courses and facilities to close



Following the recent announcements by the UK and Irish Governments in relation to the coronavirus pandemic, the GUI and ILGU recommend that all golf clubs, practice facilities and courses across the island close with immediate effect until April 19th 2020.



While golf is an outdoor sport that allows players to exercise in the fresh air, the message is clear. People must stay at home to help to contain the spread of COVID-19.



The Unions recognise the need clubs may have for business support at this time. We will monitor options available and engage with the relevant sporting bodies in due course to make representations for our member clubs.



We know that these decisions are difficult ones to make, but right now, it is our shared responsibility to prioritise the health of our local communities by working together to follow the respective Government guidelines. In doing so, this will ensure that we get the opportunity to play the game that we all love as soon as it is safe to do so.



For security and essential maintenance purposes, greenkeeping staff can still attend work. All work must be carried out in strict accordance with government guidelines on physical (social) distancing. Clubs should divide course staff into two teams where possible and if one becomes unavailable, the other team will still be okay to work.



You will appreciate that this is a very fluid situation with new developments almost daily. We will continue to liaise with the appropriate authorities, and will ensure that our clubs are kept informed as to recommended best practice at all times.



HSE: http://www.hse.ie or PHANI: https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/

ronnie3585

Bollocks.

frink

No surprise in that decision. The key message is unnecessary travel

Looks like the Puttout matt and trainer will be getting lots of use. If only all of us had similar facilities in our garden as Harrington!

Roger_007

Good time to do the poleforking?

Seve OB

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Lads if you can get it from playing golf with the current measures in place then you will get it anywhere. Its still droplets that have to get into/onto your soft wet face tissue. Its not airborne and its not the zombie virus. Will people please switch their brains back on for minute amidst all the hysteria?

And to those smartarses...we have to be expert virologists now to express an opinion, yes? I assume thats what you all are then?

You put enough people into a room and give them enough time to think there will always be 'we can do more'. Whether it makes sense is another matter though.

i don't think anybody has said you can get it from playing golf.

but you can stop spreading it by simply limiting your movements to the bare necessity. ie, stay the fucx home

Euphoriasean

frink wrote: »

No surprise in that decision. The key message is unnecessary travel

Looks like the Puttout matt and trainer will be getting lots of use. If only all of us had similar facilities in our garden as Harrington!

Tis the dream alright. Although I'd spend a fortune on replacing the windows.

CalamariFritti

Total bullsh1t overreaction imo. We've gone into hyperventilation. Just doing 'something more' to be doing something more.
I understand that people are scared and will try to get some idea of control and sure the others are doing it so must we, but this is nonsense.

You literally have to get someones's spit into your mouth. And I do know thats not as impossible as it sounds. However thats still what it takes as far as I know. How we got from there to its unsafe to pursue some solitary outdoor activities no-one will ever know.

blue note

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Total bullsh1t overreaction imo. We've gone into hyperventilation. Just doing 'something more' to be doing something more.
I understand that people are scared and will try to get some idea of control and sure the others are doing it so must we, but this is nonsense.

You literally have to get someones's spit into your mouth. And I do know thats not as impossible as it sounds. However thats still what it takes as far as I know. How we got from there to its unsafe to pursue some solitary outdoor activities no-one will ever know.

It wouldn't be spreading as it is if it were that card to get.