Coronavirus

The Wordress

Oh thank you for all your help.

It seems he should be able to travel.

His job is open to interpretation on the essential list.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

The Wordress wrote: »

Oh thank you for all your help.

It seems he should be able to travel.

His job is open to interpretation on the essential list.

The essential list is only for if your county is in level 4/5 and non essential shops/businesses have to close. If his job is in a level 3 county everything is still open and it's not relevant for travel.

The Wordress

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

The essential list is only for if your county is in level 4/5 and non essential shops/businesses have to close. If his job is in a level 3 county everything is still open and it's not relevant for travel.

I just assumed he wouldn't be able to drive out of Donegal to Sligo.

I can update tomorrow and see what his employer says.

Nobotty

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

The essential list is only for if your county is in level 4/5 and non essential shops/businesses have to close. If his job is in a level 3 county everything is still open and it's not relevant for travel.

This

lulu1

The Wordress wrote: »

I'm assuming he can't leave the county unless his job is classed as essential which it wouldn't be.

I have tried to find a list of essential jobs for level 4 but couldn't.

His work will clarify it for certain tomorrow.

Check out Greg Hughes facebook he has a list of what is classed as essential work

md23040

I think it ridiculous that government are closing non essential businesses in Donegal. It’s most likely that we will have to live with this virus as it mutates for the next number of years and IMO we can’t treat businesses with such draconian measures during this time.

I’m not sure of the main means of transmission but it’s not in shops that insist on washing hands on entry, face masks and social distancing. How much risk is their in The Errigal hotel, Mc Elhinney Stores, Riverisland etc that are all fairly empty anyway. By comparison I seen four teenage boys out walking last night arms round each other on the Main Street, are we golng to start arresting people even though it’s stupid?

People should make choices to go into businesses that are responsible, and no one should be telling them to close. Sure go after the bad apples but leave the rest alone.

ednwireland

im in the office as my broadband cant a handle a video call at home (fibre stops before the house, hardly any mobile coverage, imagine wont come out (even though they stick stuff through my letterbox saying its available).

ESB had the nerve to put a note through the door saying the area will be off for a day next week ! which is great when everyone is supposed to be working form home

honestly as the town was dead under level 3 i cant see what 4 is going to do apart from finally put a load of businesses under

Donegal Storm

md23040 wrote: »

I think it ridiculous that government are closing non essential businesses in Donegal. It’s most likely that we will have to live with this virus as it mutates for the next number of years and IMO we can’t treat businesses with such draconian measures during this time.

I’m not sure of the main means of transmission but it’s not in shops that insist on washing hands on entry, face masks and social distancing. How much risk is their in The Errigal hotel, Mc Elhinney Stores, Riverisland etc that are all fairly empty anyway. By comparison I seen four teenage boys out walking last night arms round each other on the Main Street, are we golng to start arresting people even though it’s stupid?

People should make choices to go into businesses that are responsible, and no one should be telling them to close. Sure go after the bad apples but leave the rest alone.

Seems to me like a political decision to put us in level 4 after what the north announced yesterday.

Cases look to have stabilised and maybe even started to drop since level 3 came in, closing all retail that are probably only hanging on by a thread as it is just doesn't make sense. It might save a few cases per day from happening but likely a negligible difference compared to the damage it'll do you thousands of people's jobs and livelihoods heading into the Christmas season

ednwireland

Donegal Storm wrote: »

Seems to me like a political decision to put us in level 4 after what the north announced yesterday.

seems that way doesn't it

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

ednwireland wrote: »

seems that way doesn't it

There's no seems about it. They specifically said it yesterday morning. If Northern Ireland introduced tougher restrictions we would have to do it too. It makes sense for Cavan and Monaghan looking at their numbers, but I feel a little hard done by here, given we were already at level 3 and it was showing signs of working. That said, the worst numbers in NI are on our border, so I guess that's still a threat to us.

The thing I don't understand is why Louth aren't in Level 4 too. Their numbers aren't huge, but are rising, they border on Dublin on one side, and the Newry area is 3rd or 4th worst in NI at the moment.

It's incredibly frustrating because I can see what happened with us and level 3 happening again. We'll be half way through the level 4 period and the rest of the country will end up being moved to it anyway, adding on 2 or 3 extra weeks to our period.

frank8211

madalig12 wrote: »

Lots of classes out around donegal town and in other schools. Its being kept very quiet.

That's happening everywhere, the word was sent down to keep the schools thing hush hush

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

HSE data on outbreaks and where they're linked to.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1316696106277928961?s=20

Homes are still by far the worst.

There's an * on the schools one because for some of them they haven't established that it was spread in the school.

Also, for clarity, a cluster is defined as 2 or more cases in the one place

sp00k

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's incredibly frustrating because I can see what happened with us and level 3 happening again. We'll be half way through the level 4 period and the rest of the country will end up being moved to it anyway, adding on 2 or 3 extra weeks to our period.

That's a good point... really feel for the businesses here.

muffler

763 new cases and 4 deaths announced for NI today. A bit of a drop compared to a couple of days but still high and no guarantees obviously that it wont soar again.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

muffler wrote: »

763 new cases and 4 deaths announced for NI today. A bit of a drop compared to a couple of days but still high and no guarantees obviously that it wont soar again.

Probably nobody left to catch it at this stage

ednwireland

https://www.donegallive.ie/news/donegal-news/581272/why-was-donegal-town-covid-19-test-centre-closed-at-the-weekend.html

Donegal town test centre closed at the weekend due to lack of demand

madalig12

School near Ballybofey...6th class teacher got covid. What u think they did? Isolate the class? Nope. The front row...the next week 2 in the 2nd row were out with covid and another since then from further back. Good work HSE

trixi001

Does anyone have a link to the actual legislation around the restrictions

as A number of the things on the gov.ie say "Should" (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/level4/#work)

Thepoet85

I run a small physical therapy clinic in Buncrana. Having been closed for three and a half months earlier in the year was tough, but I'm struggling to see how I'll mentally get through another lockdown.

Since I've been reopened I've had to take serious measures to ensure that the clinic is fit for purpose and safe. It meant that I'm at the clinic a lot longer than before, but did a lot less hands on work. I'm in the middle of contacting clients, and have to explain that the business isn't deemed essential. It's tough. And all the while, the business next door gets to stay open, as they sell fridges and are deemed essential.

Just don't know what to do, I'm gutted. I feel I've done all I can professionally and personally to keep this thing at bay, but I'm being hammered by those who aren't.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Thepoet85 wrote: »

I run a small physical therapy clinic in Buncrana. Having been closed for three and a half months earlier in the year was tough, but I'm struggling to see how I'll mentally get through another lockdown.

Since I've been reopened I've had to take serious measures to ensure that the clinic is fit for purpose and safe. It meant that I'm at the clinic a lot longer than before, but did a lot less hands on work. I'm in the middle of contacting clients, and have to explain that the business isn't deemed essential. It's tough. And all the while, the business next door gets to stay open, as they sell fridges and are deemed essential.

Just don't know what to do, I'm gutted. I feel I've done all I can professionally and personally to keep this thing at bay, but I'm being hammered by those who aren't.

It says in the guidelines "therapy services provided by a member of a designated profession within the meaning of section 3 of the Health and Social Care Professionals Act 2005"
Does that not cover you?

Thepoet85

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote:

It says in the guidelines "therapy services provided by a member of a designated profession within the meaning of section 3 of the Health and Social Care Professionals Act 2005" Does that not cover you?

According to our association, the language only infers that chartered physiotherapists may work, not private physical therapists.

Thepoet85

Have you a link to that area of the guidelines? I cant see that anywhere.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Have you a link to that area of the guidelines? I cant see that anywhere.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services-for-level-4/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/essentialservices/#human-health-and-social-work-activities

From a quick google the following are in the Act
professions are designated:

(a) Clinical Biochemists Registration Board;

(b) Dietitians Registration Board;

(c) Medical Scientists Registration Board;

(d) Occupational Therapists Registration Board;

(e) Orthoptists Registration Board;

(f) Physiotherapists Registration Board;

(g) Podiatrists Registration Board;

(h) Psychologists Registration Board;

(i) Radiographers Registration Board;

(j) Social Care Workers Registration Board;

(k) Social Workers Registration Board;

(l) Speech and Language Therapists Registration Board.

henke

50 cases in Donegal today. Not great.

malinheader

Going by the traffic today and this evening there is not much heed being taken about any restrictions by alot.

circadian

malinheader wrote: »

Going by the traffic today and this evening there is not much heed being taken about any restrictions by alot.

I'd say there's a lot more movement in anticipation of a full lockdown like March. I've noticed it in Dublin, certainly feels like a lot of people are getting the things they wouldn't get done in a full lockdown.

My main concern is that this time around the lockdown that everyone's expecting isn't happening and causing the current behaviour which in turn is causing an increase in spread.

byte

md23040 wrote: »

I’m not sure of the main means of transmission but it’s not in shops that insist on washing hands on entry, face masks and social distancing. How much risk is their in The Errigal hotel, Mc Elhinney Stores, Riverisland etc that are all fairly empty anyway.

Indeed, personally I think the likes of clothes and shoe shops should remain open, clothes are essential enough.

I even noticed the likes of Peter's Man Shop had a box of masks at the door with the hand sanitiser in case you'd forgotten your own.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

circadian wrote: »

I'd say there's a lot more movement in anticipation of a full lockdown like March. I've noticed it in Dublin, certainly feels like a lot of people are getting the things they wouldn't get done in a full lockdown.

My main concern is that this time around the lockdown that everyone's expecting isn't happening and causing the current behaviour which in turn is causing an increase in spread.

I find it crazy how the rest of the country sat back and watched what happened up here and then allowed the same thing to happen in pretty much all the other counties. There was a Cavan GP on the news last night saying almost exactly the same thing as the doctors up here were saying 3 or 4 weeks ago. The vast majority of cases she was seeing were coming from gatherings in homes and GAA related socialising. Same as what caused the initial large rise in numbers here. It was mentioned in this thread before but I think the fact we did relatively well at containing the virus in the first wave has lead to a much much lower level of concern about it now. And unfortunately there's quite a lot of the population just don't care.

Heighway61

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

...I think the fact we did relatively well at containing the virus in the first wave has lead to a much much lower level of concern about it now. And unfortunately there's quite a lot of the population just don't care.

Serious problem this time round.

NIMAN

Heighway61 wrote: »

Serious problem this time round.

The 2nd wave looks like it's going to easily eclipse the 1st.

Everyone bought into the restrictions and rules 1st time round, appears there is a large enough section of the population who aren't making an effort this time to allow it to do serious damage .