Football & Coronavirus [READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST POST - updated 06-05-20]

brinty

fyfe79 wrote:

Ah right, so that one single unplayed game, from which you've extrapolated the result, has an importance but none of the other 9 games for, say, Liverpool are important. Nor can you extrapolate any results from them.

fyfe79 wrote:

Got it.

fyfe79 wrote:

brinty! You had the inside track all along and you're only letting us know now?

As you said I've the inside track

So I'm going to be kind to you but it's not going to be nice......

Liverpool are going to get four more points over those nine games, however City won't lose or draw another premier league game and will be drawing 2-2 in they're last game of the season going into injury time and Martin Tyler is on commentary when the ball falls to a guy and he buries it to win the title for Manchester City...

Martin Tyler final words are
The ball is crossed into the box and it's fallen to AGGGGGGUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEERRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I swear you'll never see any thing like this....... in your life

brinty

6 wrote:

I think it means not solving. Makey uppy solution!

I meant desolved, go Google it

https://twitter.com/OliverKay/status/1243444758325989376?s=19

The Athletic have their say on the matter

brinty

Deleted User wrote:

The Athletic have their say on the matter

Great site

noodler

brinty wrote: »

City have a game in hand which they'll win, it's 22 .

You can't even stay consistent with your own bull****.

brinty

noodler wrote:

You can't even stay consistent with your own bull****.

As fyfe said I've the inside track, so I'm just sharing the knowledge with you. Would you prefer I don't

Fitz*

brinty wrote: »

As fyfe said I've the inside track, so I'm just sharing the knowledge with you. Would you prefer I don't

Are you ever going to reveal who the PL footballer you said was doping is?

Benimar

brinty wrote: »

I meant desolved, go Google it

Didn't have to, but did anyway.

The word you are looking for is dissolved.

Your word doesn't exist.

~Rebel~

Deleted User wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OliverKay/status/1243444758325989376?s=19

The Athletic have their say on the matter

Some absolute idiocy in there.

Just in the first 2 paragraphs;
A number of Premier League clubs want to end the current season with immediate effect and replay it in full once it is deemed safe to do so

Replay it in full? What's the point of that? I can somewhat understand the argument for pushing forward with no relegation and Leeds and West Brom added in, but literally just resetting it? Literally, where is the benefit? We've already played 75% of this iteration, what is the benefit of just starting the same whole sequence again?

and;
One senior figure told The Athletic it is morally wrong for football to even be discussing playing behind closed doors while the coronavirus crisis is at its peak.

Who the **** are these guys, like? And how out of touch with reality are they?
I'm on unpaid furlough for the foreseeable future - do I think it would be morally wrong for my company to be discussing how they get business back up and running when this passes? **** no, I 100% want them doing absolutely everything they can to have us in the best shape possible to get back to work as soon as is safely possible. I daresay the thousands of people employed across the country by football think the same.

fyfe79

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Some absolute idiocy in there.

One senior figure told The Athletic it is morally wrong for football to even be discussing playing behind closed doors while the coronavirus crisis is at its peak.

Who the **** are these guys, like? And how out of touch with reality are they?
I'm on unpaid furlough for the foreseeable future - do I think it would be morally wrong for my company to be discussing how they get business back up and running when this passes? **** no, I 100% want them doing absolutely everything they can to have us in the best shape possible to get back to work as soon as is safely possible. I daresay the thousands of people employed across the country by football think the same.

As I said in the Liverpool thread, imagine when the world starts to turn again and the thousands of people employed by football turn to Scadamore and ask "Richard, what's the plan", only for him to shrug his shoulders and say "it was morally wrong for me as CEO to plan anything directly affecting the return of your jobs so toddle off home, lads".

Richard Hillman

End the season. Have a club vote to elect Liverpool as Champions. No self respecting club will vote against it. Cancel relegation. Tell the EFL they must arrange for 2 teams to be promoted and prepare for 5 relegated teams the next season.

Encourage UEFA to scrap the Champions League/Europa League next season. Have an FA Cup style competition for the year, involving all European top flight teams.

Get rid of the league Cup next season. Keep the FA Cup but no replays or Extra time, straight to penalties.

Iused2likebusts

Richard Hillman wrote: »

End the season. Have a club vote to elect Liverpool as Champions. No self respecting club will vote against it. Cancel relegation. Tell the EFL they must arrange for 2 teams to be promoted and prepare for 5 relegated teams the next season.

Encourage UEFA to scrap the Champions League/Europa League next season. Have an FA Cup style competition for the year, involving all European top flight teams.

Get rid of the league Cup next season. Keep the FA Cup but no replays or Extra time, straight to penalties.

What happens if the league cant start till December.

Iused2likebusts

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

What happens if the league cant start till December.

Scrap next season too. Start again in August 2021. Logic :cool:

citytillidie

noodler wrote: »

You can't even stay consistent with your own bull****.

Love how they ignore Man City V Liverpool which was to be played this Sunday with a Liverpool win giving Liverpool the league so only 1 win needed in that case

citytillidie

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Some absolute idiocy in there.

Just in the first 2 paragraphs;
A number of Premier League clubs want to end the current season with immediate effect and replay it in full once it is deemed safe to do so

Replay it in full? What's the point of that? I can somewhat understand the argument for pushing forward with no relegation and Leeds and West Brom added in, but literally just resetting it? Literally, where is the benefit? We've already played 75% of this iteration, what is the benefit of just starting the same whole sequence again?

and;
One senior figure told The Athletic it is morally wrong for football to even be discussing playing behind closed doors while the coronavirus crisis is at its peak.

Who the **** are these guys, like? And how out of touch with reality are they?
I'm on unpaid furlough for the foreseeable future - do I think it would be morally wrong for my company to be discussing how they get business back up and running when this passes? **** no, I 100% want them doing absolutely everything they can to have us in the best shape possible to get back to work as soon as is safely possible. I daresay the thousands of people employed across the country by football think the same.

Same tweet from Friday

brinty

Benimar wrote:

The word you are looking for is dissolved.

Sorry about that, and thank you for certifying me. I suffer with dyslexia so sometimes I can't help misspelling things .

Zebra3

fyfe79 wrote: »

As I said in the Liverpool thread, imagine when the world starts to turn again and the thousands of people employed by football turn to Scadamore and ask "Richard, what's the plan", only for him to shrug his shoulders and say "it was morally wrong for me as CEO to plan anything directly affecting the return of your jobs so toddle off home, lads".

Why would anyone be asking Scudamore about anything to do with football?

brinty

Richard Hillman wrote:

End the season. Have a club vote to elect Liverpool as Champions. No self respecting club will vote against it. Cancel relegation. Tell the EFL they must arrange for 2 teams to be promoted and prepare for 5 relegated teams the next season.

No self respecting club will vote against what. Awarding Liverpool a title they've not won.

Em why would any self respecting club do that.

So tell us all which club is going to or should vote to elect Liverpool champions?


I'm pretty sure Manchester City who can still win it will say no, and they'd be perfectly within their rights.

But please do enligthen us.

~Rebel~

Zebra3 wrote: »

Why would anyone be asking Scudamore about anything to do with football?

Presumably because they didn’t realise Scudamore had been replaced as Chairman, or briefly forgot. The point was fairly clear.

Christ, it’s always the most adversarial possible reply in here. Whatever about actual differences of opinion, but this stuff gets really tiring and tedious.

8-10

FitzShane wrote: »

Are you ever going to reveal who the PL footballer you said was doping is?

What's this now?

Fitz*

brinty wrote: »

No self respecting club will vote against what. Awarding Liverpool a title they've not won.

Em why would any self respecting club do that.

So tell us all which club is going to or should vote to elect Liverpool champions?


I'm pretty sure Manchester City who can still win it will say no, and they'd be perfectly within their rights.

But please do enligthen us.

Man City players have said that it would be fair to award it to Liverpool.

Asked if the Reds should be given the trophy if the season is cut short, Gudogan told German broadcaster ZDF: "For me, that would be OK, yes."

"You have to be fair as a sportsperson,"

And here's a link cos it actually happened, not made up and not based on social media posts. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52086371

brinty

FitzShane wrote:

Man City players have said that it would be fair to award it to Liverpool.

One player, who played under Klopp as an aside, speaks for a whole team, their board, supporters, share holders.

Ok fair enough, I'll consider myself told

FitzShane wrote:

And here's a link cos it actually happened, not made up and not based on social media posts.

You're very defensive, is everything ok.

~Rebel~

brinty wrote: »

One player, who played under Klopp as an aside, speaks for a whole team, their board, supporters, share holders.

Ok fair enough, I'll consider myself told




You're very defensive, is everything ok.

Not at all. Bloody nothing is ok. Made worse by trying to come on here for a distraction/discussion only to find a lad posting every 5 minutes acting the maggot.

brinty

~Rebel~ wrote:

It's really not. Bloody nothing is ok. Made worse by trying to come on here for a distraction only to find a lad posting every 5 minutes acting the maggot.

I'm sorry, but are we not supposed to discuss differing points of view on here. It's an internet forum. I thought those were the ideas behind them?

~Rebel~

brinty wrote: »

I'm sorry, but are we not supposed to discuss differing points of view on here. It's an internet forum. I thought those were the ideas behind them?

Some points of view are more genuine than others.

brinty

~Rebel~ wrote:

Some points of view are more genuine than others.

So I'm not entitled to an opinion I'm your eyes because it's different to yours and what you want

~Rebel~

brinty wrote: »

So I'm not entitled to an opinion I'm your eyes because it's different to yours and what you want

I've no problem with differences of opinion. I've plenty of time for plenty of posters on here who I regularly disagree with.

Fitz*

brinty wrote: »

You're very defensive, is everything ok.

There was a claim earlier in the thread that Juventus had decided that they would not accept the Serie A title if the season if finished now.

What actually has happened was that some Juventus fan(s) said that on social media that is what they (the fan) would like to happen and not actually the club making a decision.

So I just included a link to back up my point instead of making pie in the sky speculations that are prevailinant on this forum in the last few weeks and months

brinty

FitzShane wrote:

So I just included a link to back up my point instead of making pie in the sky speculations that are prevailinant on this forum in the last few weeks and months

That's fair enough, as I say I think we're all grown up enough to have an opinion and discuss rationally with others of differing view points.

Sometimes we'll say things slightly off the wall but who doesn't.

As I said to your post I don't think you can take Gundogan as representing Manchester City, no more than fans of Juventus as reprsenting their club, or Liverpool fans on here of being representative of their club.

I do believe one of your fellow Liverpool fans said a club should nominate Liverpool as champions at no self respecting club would oppose. That's as pie in sky as you can get in my opinion.

Potential Underachiever

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Juve not going accept title if season is void.

Respect and they know more important things in life

I very ill-informed and extremely cheap shot, pathetic post.

The_Kew_Tour

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I very ill-informed and extremely cheap shot, pathetic post.

No its not. Not everything is about PL. Hundreds and Thousands of teams around the world are in position they never thought we would see.

I'm highlighting a group of fans that are looking at bigger picture. They are based in the heartland of all this.

I haven't seen it from anyone else and if they have I applaud them.

fyfe79

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Presumably because they didn’t realise Scudamore had been replaced as Chairman, or briefly forgot. The point was fairly clear.

Christ, it’s always the most adversarial possible reply in here. Whatever about actual differences of opinion, but this stuff gets really tiring and tedious.

Yep, had forgotten he was replaced a couple of months ago.

Obviously the name of the person in charge was the key point in my post and the rest should be ignored. The heinous error was right to be highlighted.

Zebra3

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Presumably because they didn’t realise Scudamore had been replaced as Chairman, or briefly forgot. The point was fairly clear.

Christ, it’s always the most adversarial possible reply in here. Whatever about actual differences of opinion, but this stuff gets really tiring and tedious.

As opposed to somebody slagging somebody else off for something that has nothing to do with him. :rolleyes:

Not like Scudamore retired quietly...

Zico

Talking about cutting short next season in order to validate/complete this one is absolutely desperate stuff from Liverpool fans. They've no shame.

No matter what happens this season won't count in many people minds because of the unprecedented disruption. It makes no sense to mess up two or three seasons, all of which will be tainted and have asterisks beside the winners.

Void the 2019/20 and hopefully be able to play a full 2020/21 season where the winners are clear an undisputed.

NIMAN

Zico wrote: »

Talking about cutting short next season in order to validate/complete this one is absolutely desperate stuff from Liverpool fans. They've no shame.

No matter what happens this season won't count in many people minds because of the unprecedented disruption. It makes no sense to mess up two or three seasons, all of which will be tainted and have asterisks beside the winners.

Void the 2019/20 and hopefully be able to play a full 2020/21 season where the winners are clear an undisputed.

I'm totally neutral when it comes to EPL, and I think its safe to say Liverpool were clear and undisputed champions this season.

Zico

NIMAN wrote: »

I'm totally neutral when it comes to EPL, and I think its safe to say Liverpool were clear and undisputed champions this season.

Give them the trophy then. What's all the fuss about?

Zico

Zico wrote: »

Talking about cutting short next season in order to validate/complete this one is absolutely desperate stuff from Liverpool fans. They've no shame.

No matter what happens this season won't count in many people minds because of the unprecedented disruption. It makes no sense to mess up two or three seasons, all of which will be tainted and have asterisks beside the winners.

Void the 2019/20 and hopefully be able to play a full 2020/21 season where the winners are clear an undisputed.

It may well be cut short anyway regardless of what they do with this season.

NIMAN

Zico wrote: »

Give them the trophy then. What's all the fuss about?

I'm not saying give it to them now, I think the epl should be given the chance to come up with some way of trying to finish it out to the satisfaction of all concerned.

But if it so happens that there are no more games played in this season's epl, then yes I think they should be awarded it then.

PhilipsR

So for people saying void the season, taking Liverpool out of the equation (as I firmly believe if it was Leicester was top, there’d be a diff tune), how do you decide CL positions? How do you decide promotion and relegation?

I don’t actually see the logic behind canning the season when it’s nearly done. There’ll be lawsuits everywhere. Leeds will feel entitled to PL money. Leicester will feel entitled to CL money.

So can someone rationally tell me of a feasible solution to how to completely cancel the season with the above problems at play?

Pauliedragon

Just fly them all to Belarus. It's a football feast there. Farming and vodka will sort the virus out according to their president.

fyfe79

PhilipsR wrote: »

So for people saying void the season, taking Liverpool out of the equation (as I firmly believe if it was Leicester was top, there’d be a diff tune), how do you decide CL positions? How do you decide promotion and relegation?

I don’t actually see the logic behind canning the season when it’s nearly done. There’ll be lawsuits everywhere. Leeds will feel entitled to PL money. Leicester will feel entitled to CL money.

So can someone rationally tell me of a feasible solution to how to completely cancel the season with the above problems at play?

There really isn't much logic in voiding the season. People just think saying the words "void the season" is enough and everything else will fall into place - may as well be saying "There's no place like home".

This virus will be coming at us in waves over the next year at least, and sport will be attempting to get going again in restricted circumstances whenever a window of opportunity is apparent. For the PL to just bin off 75% of a season is counter-productive. Those games are in the bag, done, but people think they'll be just wiped out and, like a fairytale, the next season starts in August and 100% of games will get played with no issues? Do the PL think 100% of games in the next season will be easier to get completed start to finish, or 25% of games of this season? Easy answer. Also, no threat of legal actions would come with completing this season versus voiding it. Voiding the season would cause a massive headache to the PL, bigger than just carrying on with the current one.

The only way I can see a season being voided would be if we're something like 2 years or more down the line without a ball being kicked, and players contracts are all over the place, players have retired etc. But voiding it immediately? That's wishful thinking for those with vested interests while they claim it's only Liverpool fans with vested interests. When you're in agreement with Karen Brady, Harry Kane and Rio Ferdinand, I think it's time to have a re-think.

Iused2likebusts

Zico wrote: »

Talking about cutting short next season in order to validate/complete this one is absolutely desperate stuff from Liverpool fans. They've no shame.

No matter what happens this season won't count in many people minds because of the unprecedented disruption. It makes no sense to mess up two or three seasons, all of which will be tainted and have asterisks beside the winners.

Void the 2019/20 and hopefully be able to play a full 2020/21 season where the winners are clear an undisputed.

I was watching Rocky 1 last night but I got very tired with 20 minutes left of it so I had to go to bed. Ive a big dillema now do I just go straight onto Rocky 2 today or do I watch the last 20 minutes of Rocky 1 first.

eh i dunno

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I was watching Rocky 1 last night but I got very tired with 20 minutes left of it so I had to go to bed. Ive a big dillema now do I just go straight onto Rocky 2 today or do I watch the last 20 minutes of Rocky 1 first.

Straight to rocky two and forget about rocky 1

noodler

Zico wrote: »

Talking about cutting short next season in order to validate/complete this one is absolutely desperate stuff from Liverpool fans. They've no shame.

No matter what happens this season won't count in many people minds because of the unprecedented disruption. It makes no sense to mess up two or three seasons, all of which will be tainted and have asterisks beside the winners.

Void the 2019/20 and hopefully be able to play a full 2020/21 season where the winners are clear an undisputed.

Pretending next season isn't going to be effected is absolutely desperate stuff from utd fans I reckon.


Liverpool being crowned champions is the thin edge of the wedge when it comes to reasons to complete this season.

Cookiemunster

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I was watching Rocky 1 last night but I got very tired with 20 minutes left of it so I had to go to bed. Ive a big dillema now do I just go straight onto Rocky 2 today or do I watch the last 20 minutes of Rocky 1 first.

eh i dunno wrote: »

Straight to rocky two and forget about rocky 1

Lads, it's called Rocky. You don't use a number after the original. #justsayin (I miss football)

noodler

noodler wrote: »

Pretending next season isn't going to be effected is absolutely desperate stuff from utd fans I reckon.


Liverpool being crowned champions is the thin edge of the wedge when it comes to reasons to complete this season.

Only Utd fans on here though. They are in the minority. The actual club wants it finished! Strange stuff.

8-10

6 wrote: »

Only Utd fans on here though. They are in the minority. The actual club wants it finished! Strange stuff.

The strangest is Harry Kane. He has the chance of chasing down Alan Shearer's league record and surpassing it yet wants to void this season and lose all the goals he's scored (11). I don't get his motivation.

This is a guy who 2 years ago swore on his mother's life so that he'd get awarded a goal he didn't touch

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html

Todays Independent article discussing this.

"Premier League support to void season grows but legal minefield awaits if EFL are cut adrift"

8-10

8-10 wrote: »

The strangest is Harry Kane. He has the chance of chasing down Alan Shearer's league record and surpassing it yet wants to void this season and lose all those goals. I don't get his motivation.

Spurs are out of Europe, out of the FA chip and 7 behind 4th. Realistically their season is probably done. So not that surprising tbh.

Might be also angling to leave the sinking ship asap.

Weepsie

Euros should be pushed to December 21, see if seasons can be played out from sept-November.

Winter break, summer football and continue that as it suits that Qatar world cup too.

Scrap Europa and Champions League group stages for a year or 2 (if not forever)

Stop staggering knock out stages over 5weeks when they can be done in 2.

Uefa has ruined the calendar enough as it is and should be forced to take a step back for all clubs sake