Football & Coronavirus [READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST POST - updated 06-05-20]

~Rebel~

kksaints wrote: »

Keeper got man of the match.

Oh really? Wow, I guess there must have been a lot more chances that didn't go in then.
He let in some absolute shockers.

kksaints

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Oh really? Wow, I guess there must have been a lot more chances that didn't go in then.
He let in some absolute shockers.

He made a Russian Premier League record number of saves and stopped a penalty.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0620/1148628-rostov-routed-in-russia-due-to-covid-19-quarantine/

~Rebel~

kksaints wrote: »

He made a Russian Premier League record number of saves and stopped a penalty.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0620/1148628-rostov-routed-in-russia-due-to-covid-19-quarantine/

Ah yeah, fair enough then. Of course the highlights only show more goals conceded than saves made.

Poor lads though, I read that twitter thread you gave above saying the kids hadn't even played or trained since March, awful circumstances to be thrown in against pros.

Iused2likebusts

Have crowds gathered outside any stadiums yet.

Mushy

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Have crowds gathered outside any stadiums yet.

Havent heard of anything, but not all teams have played at home. Bigger risk teams will be Liverpool and Leeds anyway, and both clubs are doing campaigns on telling people to stay at home which should help discourage people in gathering at the stadium

Cantona's Collars

3.9 million tuned in to the BBC's live game yesterday evening.

Barcelona are pushing to get fans into the Nou Camp by the 30th June for the Atletico game.

Iused2likebusts

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Have crowds gathered outside any stadiums yet.

No word. Is there a crowd cam?..

Shanotheslayer

6 wrote: »

No word. Is there a crowd cam?..

Heard nothing yet but realistically of the games played so far, what games would you expect them to gather?

Liverpool V Everton will be an interesting one tonight to see if their is any reports of it.

Also if Wolves or Sheff manage to get Top4 their could be massive celebrations there

marklazarcovic

No fans at goodison, both sets commended by police chief.

ArmaniJeanss

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Closer to home Belgrade has a full crowd for an outdoor tennis tournament tonight.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Theyd a full crowd for football the other night as well.

Interestingly, 2 of the tennis players on that Adriatic Tour have tested positive after the most recent event and the tour has been cancelled.

And five Red Star Belgrade players have tested positive also.

Virus R rate in Germany has jumped to 2.88 now.

rob316

6 wrote: »

Virus R rate in Germany has jumped to 2.88 now.

Local outbreaks and meat processing plants I believe.

Mitch Connor

rob316 wrote: »

Local outbreaks and meat processing plants I believe.

Was it Germany that had 650 people in a plant come back positive a few days ago.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Local outbreaks and meat processing plants I believe.

Meat processing plants seem to be a huge issue in many countries.

Is meat ok from said plants?..

niallo27

6 wrote: »

Virus R rate in Germany has jumped to 2.88 now.

R rate means nothing when the numbers are so low. One cluster in one area affects it too much.

howiya

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Was it Germany that had 650 people in a plant come back positive a few days ago.

Yup. Same plant is, now at over 1500 cases

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

R rate means nothing when the numbers are so low. One cluster in one area affects it too much.

Yeah, it appears to be localised. They'll be on top of it immediately.

El Gato De Negocios

South Korea experiencing second wave, threat of reimposed lockdown in Israel, restrictions reimposed in Portugal.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/coronavirus-global-report-new-covid-19-cases-surge-south-korea-israel

The above countries handled things well from the get go so its slightly alarming to see increased cases though it must be said, given an easing of restrictions there was always likely to be some level of increase. Hopefully its only a blip.

wadacrack

Statutory Ape wrote: »

South Korea experiencing second wave, threat of reimposed lockdown in Israel, restrictions reimposed in Portugal.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/coronavirus-global-report-new-covid-19-cases-surge-south-korea-israel

The above countries handled things well from the get go so its slightly alarming to see increased cases though it must be said, given an easing of restrictions there was always likely to be some level of increase. Hopefully its only a blip.

This has nothing to do with Football.

~Rebel~

wadacrack wrote: »

This has nothing to do with Football.

We can probably just add the obvious additional caveat that’s almost inherently implied with it being posted in this thread.

With second waves striking, one has to wonder how it will effect football.

The processes have been solid, but if the hospital systems start to become overwhelmed again, football could be held up again, both from the local practical considerations, and general public perception and opinion.

Next 3 to 4 weeks are crucial in seeing how countries react, and which direction the numbers go.

LuckyLloyd

Enjoy the summer football feast imo. Next season is highly unlikely to run for a large portion of the usual calendar.

El Gato De Negocios

wadacrack wrote: »

This has nothing to do with Football.

Whats your point? It has a significant amount to do with C-19. Which is why i posted in the football and C-19 thread.

Israel and SK have been held as the yard stick for how countries should react to the virus and both only had a fraction of the cases and deaths relative to population

SK - 12,500 cases, 281 deaths, population 51.5m

Israel - 21,000 cases, 307 deaths, population 8.8m

Compare those to the two worst hit countries in Europe

UK - 305,000 cases, 42,647 deaths, population 66.6m

Italy - 239,000 cases, 34,657 deaths, population 60m


SK & Israel were extremely pro-active in attempting to contain and control the spread of the virus and it clearly worked however they are seeing an increase in cases since they began easing restrictions.

It is quite possible / likely that as restrictions ease across Europe there will be a spike in cases - see Germany - and if people arent careful there is the very real possibility uncontrollable spread will begin again.

wadacrack

~Rebel~ wrote: »

We can probably just add the obvious additional caveat that’s almost inherently implied with it being posted in this thread.

With second waves striking, one has to wonder how it will effect football.

The processes have been solid, but if the hospital systems start to become overwhelmed again, football could be held up again, both from the local practical considerations, and general public perception and opinion.

Next 3 to 4 weeks are crucial in seeing how countries react, and which direction the numbers go.

More than likely it will be fine. Football is low risk as eventually shown. At professional level with the testing regime in place it highly likely to remain a safe environment. Theirs no 2nd wave in South Korea atm, its smaller outbreaks.

wadacrack

Statutory Ape wrote: »

Whats your point? It has a significant amount to do with C-19. Which is why i posted in the football and C-19 thread.

Israel and SK have been held as the yard stick for how countries should react to the virus and both only had a fraction of the cases and deaths relative to population

SK - 12,500 cases, 281 deaths, population 51.5m

Israel - 21,000 cases, 307 deaths, population 8.8m

Compare those to the two worst hit countries in Europe

UK - 305,000 cases, 42,647 deaths, population 66.6m

Italy - 239,000 cases, 34,657 deaths, population 60m


SK & Israel were extremely pro-active in attempting to contain and control the spread of the virus and it clearly worked however they are seeing an increase in cases since they began easing restrictions.

It is quite possible / likely that as restrictions ease across Europe there will be a spike in cases - see Germany - and if people arent careful there is the very real possibility uncontrollable spread will begin again.[/QUOTE]

All of what you state has nothing to do with Football. Its completely unrelated. Its not likely at all at the moment.

El Gato De Negocios

wadacrack wrote: »

More than likely it will be fine. Football is low risk as eventually shown. At professional level with the testing regime in place it highly likely to remain a safe environment. Theirs no 2nd wave in South Korea atm, its smaller outbreaks.

wadacrack wrote: »

All of what you state has nothing to do with Football. Its completely unrelated. Its not likely at all at the moment.

Im unsure if you are being deliberately obtuse or do not actually understand the possible implications here.

Im not talking about footballers getting C-19.

Footballers getting C-19 did not cause the lockdown.

The general populace getting and spreading C-19 is what caused the lock down.

If after restrictions are lifted, there are spikes in cases in areas which have up til now done well with containing the virus, is it not a possibility that in areas like the UK or Italy where they made a balls of everything from the get go that there could be a spike also?

And given the aforementioned balls up, another spike in those areas could have significant impacts on everything including football. If another severe spike comes then the possibility of another lockdown will heighten which will directly effect football and everything else.

wadacrack

Statutory Ape wrote: »

Im unsure if you are being deliberately obtuse or do not actually understand the possible implications here.

Im not talking about footballers getting C-19.

Footballers getting C-19 did not cause the lockdown.

The general populace getting and spreading C-19 is what caused the lock down.

If after restrictions are lifted, there are spikes in cases in areas which have up til now done well with containing the virus, is it not a possibility that in areas like the UK or Italy where they made a balls of everything from the get go that there could be a spike also?

And given the aforementioned balls up, another spike in those areas could have significant impacts on everything including football. If another severe spike comes then the possibility of another lockdown will heighten which will directly effect football and everything else.

Their is still Football being played in South Korea and Israel. Its not impacting football in those countries. Your talking about a hypothetical situation that's is highly unlikely and their no indication its remotely possible. UEFA have planned the Champions League for Lisbon in August. Leagues are talking about playing with crowds(has happened in some countries). Transmission in a football setting at professional level is clearly low risk as seen in the Premier League and Bundesliga. UK have about 10,000 weekly confirmed cases and are still playing. Perspective needed rather than reading about 2nd waves and creating negative connotations. Almost like Deja Vu from a few months ago.

Mitch Connor

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Enjoy the summer football feast imo. Next season is highly unlikely to run for a large portion of the usual calendar.

Disagree.

Football came back before restrictions were massively lifted.

As football has its own testing/tracing and protocols, it can continue where restrictions might come back into force, to some degree.

MD1990

Statutory Ape wrote: »

Im unsure if you are being deliberately obtuse or do not actually understand the possible implications here.

Im not talking about footballers getting C-19.

Footballers getting C-19 did not cause the lockdown.

The general populace getting and spreading C-19 is what caused the lock down.

If after restrictions are lifted, there are spikes in cases in areas which have up til now done well with containing the virus, is it not a possibility that in areas like the UK or Italy where they made a balls of everything from the get go that there could be a spike also?

And given the aforementioned balls up, another spike in those areas could have significant impacts on everything including football. If another severe spike comes then the possibility of another lockdown will heighten which will directly effect football and everything else.

It was postponed after Arteta had the virus & everyone was dealing with the unknown at the time.

Not one football league has stopped playing despite having more outbreaks.

Same people saying this are probably the one's who though there would be no football for years.

The virus may cause a more outbreaks but will not as bad as the 1st wave as this was a result of zero social distancing as people thought everything would be ok. Much different now 90% of people are social distancing particularly inside.

wadacrack

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Disagree.

Football came back before restrictions were massively lifted.

As football has its own testing/tracing and protocols, it can continue where restrictions might come back into force, to some degree.

Football in this new setting has proven to be safe at professional level. Outbreaks even significant are unlikely to impact the professional game and at the moment are completely unrelated. More is known about Indoor/Outdoor transmission than March also. The Russian Premier League is back btw and they had 7000 cases yesterday.

Iused2likebusts

What officially is a second wave. It sounds serious and worrying when you read a headline but is it the media just sensationalising it. Like in south Korea is 50 new cases a day a second wave. What will the second wave be in Ireland that keeps getting mentioned. How many cases per day constitutes a second wave?

DM_7

MD1990 wrote: »

It was postponed after Arteta had the virus & everyone was dealing with the unknown at the time.

Not one football league has stopped playing despite having more outbreaks.

Same people saying this are probably the one's who though there would be no football for years.


The virus may cause a more outbreaks but will not as bad as the 1st wave as this was a result of zero social distancing as people thought everything would be ok. Much different now 90% of people are social distancing particularly inside.

Mod note: Please don't start up with the commentary and generalisation..

Cantona's Collars

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

What officially is a second wave. It sounds serious and worrying when you read a headline but is it the media just sensationalising it. Like in south Korea is 50 new cases a day a second wave. What will the second wave be in Ireland that keeps getting mentioned. How many cases per day constitutes a second wave?

I assume it's the point where hospitals start to come under pressure numbers wise.

Shanotheslayer

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

I assume it's the point where hospitals start to come under pressure numbers wise.

I would tend to agree.

Second wave to me would be like the 1st wave in the sense that everything had to start shutting down again hospitals being overrun etc

Countries will be much better equipped to deal with any subsequent waves.

The UK may well be in a better position than other countries for subsequent waves as they intentionally let the virus spread before changing tactics. Even then it was mixed messages. Maybe they will have better community immunity which will serve them well.

Time will tell.

davemckenna25

It can't be counted as a 2nd wave until the first wave disappears.
Given that there is still a reasonable amount of cases and deaths in the UK being reported, If numbers go back up it will be counted as a new spike not a 2nd wave.
The 1st wave needs to disappear before a 2nd one starts.

p.s. I know this isn't football related but it is covid related to a 2nd wave/spike talk so that's why its posted her. (just in case any one thinks its not relevant to this tread)

wadacrack

People just love negative news and will create a narrative in their mind without any evidence. You are then called obtuse for a differering opinion. Crowds didn't gather outside Goodison Park like so many predicted either. The players are in a very safe environment. The way Football and Football players have conducted themselves throughout this and other issues has been commendable. Try and be positive about the situation and grateful that Football is back at this level at least. Hopefully now the League of Ireland can move forward and get going. Football at that sort of level will face bigger challenges but the situation looked much worse a number of weeks ago

Bridge93

Novak Djokovic testing positive while playing in a tennis tour event around the Balkan countries may put the skids on people getting back into sporting events for a while. Those countries with far less cases than the uk yet he still catches it. They’ve had full attendances at the tennis from what I’ve heard

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Bridge93 wrote: »

Novak Djokovic testing positive while playing in a tennis tour event around the Balkan countries may put the skids on people getting back into sporting events for a while. Those countries with far less cases than the uk yet he still catches it. They’ve had full attendances at the tennis from what I’ve heard

Unless there's an outbreak amongst the attendences, I'd imagine it won't make much difference.

Bridge93

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Unless there's an outbreak amongst the attendences, I'd imagine it won't make much difference.

A couple of other players and family members caught it too. Given testing levels in those countries I doubt many in the crowd will be found. In fairness the pictures of his behaviour like getting amongst crowds for pics etc are madness. Easily rectified with a bit of cop on elsewhere.

wadacrack

Bridge93 wrote: »

Novak Djokovic testing positive while playing in a tennis tour event around the Balkan countries may put the skids on people getting back into sporting events for a while. Those countries with far less cases than the uk yet he still catches it. They’ve had full attendances at the tennis from what I’ve heard

5 Red Star Belgrade players tested postive after the Belgrade derby with 16,000. Lessons hopefully will be learned. Djokovic and some other Tennis players were at a party with a large crowd btw

Cork Boy 53

wadacrack wrote: »

People just love negative news and will create a narrative in their mind without any evidence. You are then called obtuse for a differering opinion. Crowds didn't gather outside Goodison Park like so many predicted either. The players are in a very safe environment. The way Football and Football players have conducted themselves throughout this and other issues has been commendable. Try and be positive about the situation and grateful that Football is back at this level at least. Hopefully now the League of Ireland can move forward and get going. Football at that sort of level will face bigger challenges but the situation looked much worse a number of weeks ago

There was a large police presence in Liverpool on Sunday evening, roads were closed and Stanley Park was closed to the public. Also Liverpool would not have sealed the PL title on Sunday regardless of the result of the match. If that had been a possibility it might have been a very different story.

wadacrack

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

There was a large police presence in Liverpool on Sunday evening, roads were closed and Stanley Park was closed to the public. Also Liverpool would not have sealed the PL title on Sunday regardless of the result of the match. If that had been a possibility it might have been a very different story.

Yea their were good procedures in place to deal with it if anything arose. Thankfully nothing happened. Klopp has also been appealing to fans about this issue. Premier League have dealt with Covid 19 situation pretty professionally

Iused2likebusts

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

I assume it's the point where hospitals start to come under pressure numbers wise.

Thats what I would have assumed. So in the article linked they are going on about south korea experiencing the second wave with 19 new cases in a day. I think the headlines and articles are going down the sensationalising it route.

Agent Coulson

The Times are reporting that the Community Shield could be used as the test game to get fans back into stadiums.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Bridge93 wrote: »

A couple of other players and family members caught it too. Given testing levels in those countries I doubt many in the crowd will be found. In fairness the pictures of his behaviour like getting amongst crowds for pics etc are madness. Easily rectified with a bit of cop on elsewhere.

That would do it, alright. But keeping the players away from the fans shouldreally have been a no-brainer.

A second wave/no second wave is going to be what decides whether or not there will be fans.

OwaynOTT

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Times are reporting that the Community Shield could be used as the test game to get fans back into stadiums.

A community shield, community transmission and herd immunity. There’s a joke in there somewhere.

adaminho

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Times are reporting that the Community Shield could be used as the test game to get fans back into stadiums.

Didn't they originally pencil in the FA cup as a test? It makes sense an 80,00 seater stadium that normally has about 15,000 each allocation?

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1275763301092392970

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/1275862606620786688

Mitch Connor

"AND YOU'LL NEVER..."

"SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

No singing, ha.