Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

deisedevil

Taiwan has kept it's cases below 50. It's up on top of China. It has a population of 23 million. It shut down travel to and from China early. They also did many others things early on that other countries should have taken note of.https://www.dw.com/en/how-has-taiwan-kept-its-coronavirus-infection-rate-so-low/a-52724523 Imagine having the advantage of knowing what would work in advance. Did other countries like Ireland follow suit? Did we ban travel from Italy when things got out of control. We were told that was impossible. The US have banned travel from nearly the whole of Europe. So why was it impossible? Many people and experts were saying a long time ago to ban travel from Italy but that was ignored. The experts the government have been led by were wrong. We should have banned travel. Those experts are not doing what's best for the people as long as they are deciding short time economic matters are on a par with saving the lives of our citizens. We are an island. We had the perfect chance to secure ourselves against the worst of this and slow the spread. Now that its spreading as quick as it is, are our government doing enough to stop the spread? No they aren't. Dithering over the parades. Dithering o we school closures. Every step of the way when we look back we can see that they haven't taken the obvious decisions. When this is all over and it's analysed we'll see that they have failed us time and time again.

For anyone who thinks that putting extreme measures in place is panicking, well in a few weeks time you'll be looking back and wishing we had panicked a long time ago.

People still think this is up there with the bad snow we got a few years ago and people were panic buying bread. Some people think this is the same type of panic again and that it's something to be laughed at. This is a whole different ball game.

antodeco

Apologies if already posted but I see Tom Hanks and his wife have tested positive

Vivienne23

breadmonster wrote: »

are we just trying to get past paddies day before we close everything down? what are we waiting for?

Agreed ,

Retail and hospitality is dead anyway so it might curb the damage if everything just paused for a couple of weeks ,

I’m self employed in a fairly busy industry and I’m worried to be honest , have customers in every sector of business and everything is up in the air , scary times and in a few weeks I don’t think money will be on anyone’s mind the age old saying your health is your wealth comes to mind

sydthebeat

Phil.x wrote: »

Trump cancels all flights to America from Europe for 30days and our spineless leo wouldn't do the same for italy, the mans a joke and not fit to be leader, I hope trump turns him away the absolute bellend.

The ignorance in this post is strong.

This was from an orange president who previously called the virus a hoax, and who only days ago said it was nothing to worry about??

He also hasn't cancelled flights, he's banned people..... Actually he's banned "foreign nationals".... Because the virus is a "foreign virus"...

Talk about slamming the barn door shut after the horse has bolted.... But leaving the side door open all the same.

The man's an idiot, a dangerous idiot.... He could barely read from the prompter

Peregrinus

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Easy or not. The dominoes will start to fall now. Many countries with stop international travel

A largely futile gesture, according to the WHO, and one which can "stifle the flow of medicines and aid" and "may divert resources from other [more effective] interventions".

No amount of travel bans would do even a fraction as much for the US as would increasing the capacity to test for coronavirus. The US record here is woeful; they have been testing at a fraction of the rate of other countries. And yet accurate testing is foundational to any effective strategy. It allows health authorities to identify clusters, trace the movement of the virus, make critical decisions on where risks lie and allocate resources accordingly. Societies that cannot resort to the draconian measures seen in China or that would prefer to avoid them - like Taiwan and Singapore - have made testing the foundation of their (so far, effective) measure to contain the spread of the disease.

Reckless Abandonment

breadmonster wrote: »

are we just trying to get past paddies day before we close everything down? what are we waiting for?

The numbers to rise. And a sign that its community spreading. Unlike Italy. People here are taking this very serious. At this early stage

lawred2

sydthebeat wrote: »

The ignorance in this post is strong.

This was from an orange president who previously called the virus a hoax, and who only days ago said it was nothing to worry about??

He already hasn't cancelled flights, he's banned people..... Actually he's banned "foreign nationals".... Because the virus is a "foreign virus"...

Talk about slamming the barn door shut after the horse has bolted.... But leaving the side door open all the same.

The man's an idiot, a dangerous idiot.... He could barely read from the prompter

So only American citizens can board US bound flights? Regrardless of the virus. How's that going to work?

antodeco

The fact that flights aren't banned for Ireland and UK, does this mean we could have an influx of people coming to Ireland to get to the US, or will they stop anybody entering the US who was in another country beforehand?

rob316

In tesco in cork last night, quiet in there and i still saw 3 non-asians wearing masks. Scary times ahead but its not too late to avoid an italy if we take extreme measures now.

I was a bit dismissive of this virus up to this week but the rate its spread through Italy is alarming.

I've avoided the gym (mma so lots of contact) all week, went shopping late in the evening and stayed in the office pretty much all week in work. I will avoid pubs, crowded places best i can anc keep scrubbing my hands after I'm in contact with others our outside.

DOCARCH

lawred2 wrote: »

So only American citizens can board US bound flights? Regrardless of the virus. How's that going to work?

Yip...silly. Just to a token/populist measure! Dirty Europeans!

facehugger99

khalessi wrote: »

I am sitting here awake tears in my eyes reading this, cant sleep as my one of my kids is worried Im going to die. It was the last question I was asked last night before they fell asleep.The second last question was whether they would get it and die.

How do I reassure them?

What do you suggest Pseudonym?

This is heartbreaking

It's scary to think there are posters on this thread infecting their kids with their neuroses.

People need to kop themselves on.

lawred2

amacca wrote: »

That's the bit I can't understand. It's criminally negligent if them at this stage given the stories coming out of Italy.

So close everything?

How does the nation feed itself?

EDit

The way I read it, he’s banning the flights, regardless of the nationality of the people onboard.

Do we expect pressure on Leo from Trump to do similar to prevent Ireland being a route to circumvent the ban?

macnug

antodeco wrote: »

The fact that flights aren't banned for Ireland and UK, does this mean we could have an influx of people coming to Ireland to get to the US, or will they stop anybody entering the US who was in another country beforehand?

I dont think its flights that are banned its people who are not Americans. Although flights will probably get cancelled from a lack of demand.

DOCARCH

antodeco wrote: »

The fact that flights aren't banned for Ireland and UK, does this mean we could have an influx of people coming to Ireland to get to the US, or will they stop anybody entering the US who was in another country beforehand?

As far as I know, it's the citizens of the various countries that are banned from flying to the US.

sydthebeat

lawred2 wrote: »

So only American citizens can board US bound flights? Regrardless of the virus. How's that going to work?

See attached

pjohnson

facehugger99 wrote: »

It's scary to think there are posters on this thread infecting their kids with their neuroses.

People need to kop themselves on.

Gotta admire your conviction anyway.

Funsterdelux

Tom Hanks is going to isolate himself with wilson on an island

amacca

lawred2 wrote: »

So close everything?

How does the nation feed itself?

Severely limit access.... one person per household out after a certain amount of time. Skeleton crew in supermarket. You don't go in, they pass your order out to you. Rinse repeat. People take proper precautions.

Flatten the peak, give health service and those in danger a fighting chance.

Peregrinus

DOCARCH wrote: »

As far as I know, it's the citizens of the various countries that are banned from flying to the US.

Not citizens; people who have been in those countries in the preceding 14 days. But US citizens and permanent residents are exempt from this rule.

Kermit.de.frog

Xi visits Wuhan.

Such reassuring imagery for the prisoners citizens

sydthebeat

amacca wrote: »

Severely limit access.... one person per household out after a certain amount of time. Skeleton crew in supermarket. You don't go in, they pass your order out to you. Rinse repeat. People take proper precautions.

Flatten the peak, give health service and those in danger a fighting chance.

You don't go in, so you queue up outside??
Longer queues form by Skeleton staff physically collecting for every order

Not very good distance control there

greenfield21

One minute people are saying trump won't do anything because he's obsessed with the economy then when he does do something for benefit of the US he gets ridiculed anyway.

B.A._Baracus

greenfield21 wrote: »

One minute people are saying trump won't do anything because he's obsessed with the economy then when he does do something for benefit of the US he gets ridiculed anyway.

Like a lot you can't win no matter what ya do

Carbon125

khalessi wrote: »

I am sitting here awake tears in my eyes reading this, cant sleep as my one of my kids is worried Im going to die. It was the last question I was asked last night before they fell asleep.The second last question was whether they would get it and die.

How do I reassure them?

What do you suggest Pseudonym?

This is heartbreaking

Not a single person under the age of 10 has died from this virus, anywhere. Infected kids may have very mild symptoms or even none at all.

EDit

I think I know the answer to this, but is Trump’s comment about the US outbreak being seeded by people from Europe based on fact or is it easier (and more economically sound) to blame Europe than China?

amacca

sydthebeat wrote: »

You don't go in, so you queue up outside??
Longer queues form by Skeleton staff physically collecting for every order

Not very good distance control there

For the smaller more cramped places......if/when it gets to that perhaps people to cop on and not crush against one another

Stagger shopping times so not all at once

It has to be better than a free for all

Peregrinus

greenfield21 wrote: »

One minute people are saying trump won't do anything because he's obsessed with the economy then when he does do something for benefit of the US he gets ridiculed anyway.

Wellm yeah. Because you don't get praised for doing anything at all, or for doing something chosen because it confirms your preconceptions; you get praised for doing something that will be effective.

Trump is clearly still trying to manage this to minimise political damage to himself and perhaps even to capitalise on it politically, not to address the real problem. You choose to behave like that, you gotta expect ridicule.

facehugger99

greenfield21 wrote: »

One minute people are saying trump won't do anything because he's obsessed with the economy then when he does do something for benefit of the US he gets ridiculed anyway.

Not surprising really.

Same with Varadkar, there's literally nothing he could do that some jumped up expert on Boards wouldn't castigate him for.

DOCARCH

greenfield21 wrote: »

One minute people are saying trump won't do anything because he's obsessed with the economy then when he does do something for benefit of the US he gets ridiculed anyway.

Because what he has done is pretty much pointless!