Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

tobefrank321

sternn wrote: »

Heading to Lanzarote on Saturday for a week (where there are currently no cases). Would you stay / go? I could cancel for little financial loss..but was really looking forward to it!

Go but self isolate for 2 weeks after you return as a responsible precaution. And that also means isolating from older vulnerable relatives.

eastie17

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure when the virus emergency ends countries will start developing more self sustainable economies and possibly moving away from the global supply chain structures

Just like we all learned lessons and changed behavior after the banking crisis.
For about a week....

OneColdHand

I've seen a lot of comments (both here and public statements) along the lines of 'The WHO has commended Ireland on doing a good job.'

I'm genuinely interested to know why we value their opinion, and advice, so much? Is it simply because they are the WHO?

I listened to this podcast last week, and the journalist is not impressed AT ALL with the WHO as an organisation.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner/episode/15764334-u.s.-scrambles-to-contain-covid-19-and-its-a-problem-for-everyone

Essentially, they f*cked up big time for the Ebola outbreak in 2014. They said that they would do some soul searching and make some changes. However, she points out that their budget (and presumably by extension, their resources) have not increased at all since then.

The bit about the WHO is pretty short, and starts at around the 10 or 11min mark.

I have no idea if she's right or not, so I'm interested to know if anyone else has come across similar information. Or is she swimming against the tide of opinion here? I feel it's important, because all through the development of Covid-19, the Irish Govt and health officials have repeated over and over 'we are following WHO advice'.

Mango Joe

sternn wrote: »

Heading to Lanzarote on Saturday for a week (where there are currently no cases). Would you stay / go? I could cancel for little financial loss..but was really looking forward to it!

I'm not an Expert but some thoughts.

A: Coming from a Country with many confirmed cases of COVID 19 and potentially many thousands of people who are as yet carrying it but asymptomatic YOU are the threat here to this poor Island Nation.

B: Once you infect the entire Island do you really want to be quarantined and stuck there (With them all despising you)

C: Seeing as its not Ireland you have a much better chance of getting medical treatment in a functioning, properly funded hospital there instead of being propped upright in a chair in a corridor because all of the trolleys are full....

You all had weeks to stock up. Weeks. All a rush now

pc7

wonski wrote: »

One of the guys I know works in Aldi store and there was a lady yesterday buying 4 full boxes of pasta (40kg I think) They are up their sleeves and can't cope with it.

Please tell me they didn't allow her to buy it

Christy42

Christy42 wrote: »

Be careful with older people as well as look after them! I am not going to visit my Granny for obvious reasons. I have no symptoms or anything but better safe than sorry.

Is she on her own? Will she have anyone visiting her?

completedit

How would you even begin to stock up? I buy as I need. Wouldn’t have been able to stock up 3 weeks ago. All the food would have been gone by now.Diet already consists of rationed type food like kidney beans, chickpeas, dried fruit, frozen veg.

Thinking of buying a fishing rod and or alternatively learn to catch fish using a spear.

Doctors room ghost

pc7 wrote: »

Please tell me they didn't allow her to buy it

It should have been loaded into a cannon and fired at her greedy head

RollieFingers

Dunnes in Stephens Green, holy jaysus never seen anything like it, it's like the end of days.

BailMeOut

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Three weeks too late

I'd suggest you read what the experts say and why the choice on the timing of the 'lock down' was so import.

Akrasia

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The shops will be open. There is zero reason to close shops, if people avoid panic buying. Otherwise numbers may have to be limited into them.

The vast majority of people haven't bothered to educate themselves on coronavirus. You just know there is a massive part of the population who never ever watch the news. These are the panic buying people. Herd mentality at its worst.

They won't close the shops, but if the shop staff have to self isolate, who's gonna sell you your beans?

Mortelaro

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Soap doesn't kill virus and bacteria. Washing hands with soap is effective because of the rubbing/rinsing motion. You can't apply that when cleaning surfaces and door handles

Done properly it removes the virus and prevents it from entering your nose ears mouth or eyes
It's the most important anti coronavirus thing you can do
That cannot be over emphasized

ifElseThen

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Soap doesn't kill virus and bacteria.

In this case it might, according to a School of Chemistry Professor..



https://twitter.com/PalliThordarson/status/1236549305189597189?s=20


But the technique of washing is very important in killing the virus.

DOCARCH

Spain. Revised figures (so far) today. +687 case/+29 deaths.

LirW

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Sure why wouldn't she go? Shes basically being given the go ahead to go. Flight are continuing from country to country

I can't get my head around why someone goes on a party trip with clubbing in crowded places given the current situation. More and more travel is going to be restricted and it's the sensible thing to do. The people going to Cheltenham get criticised for the right reasons, it's irresponsible risking infection and bringing it home.

Poorside

pc7 wrote: »

Please tell me they didn't allow her to buy it

They opened till number 2 for it.

TheAsYLuMkeY

namloc1980 wrote: »

People would've wanted them lynched 3 weeks ago if they suggested implementing these measures then. We had no cases and Italy had only 3 at that stage. Enough with the stupid revisionism FFS.

Jesus Christ,

I am sick of reading this is revisionist bull****,

We knew what was happening in china, as soon as this hit Europe we should have reacted as it takes anyone with half a brain to understand that if Italy had 3 REPORTED CONFIRMED cases it most likely had hundreds more.

CFlat

namloc1980 wrote: »

People would've wanted them lynched 3 weeks ago if they suggested implementing these measures then. We had no cases and Italy had only 3 at that stage. Enough with the stupid revisionism FFS.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

eastie17

lawred2 wrote: »

give me a break - most of these idiots are following facebook and twitter feeds and reacting to them

inherited behaviour :rolleyes:

And now they're all going to be sitting on social media with nothing else to do for the next 3 weeks. God help us all with the ****e they will come out with

Retr0gamer

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Soap doesn't kill virus and bacteria. Washing hands with soap is effective because of the rubbing/rinsing motion. You can't apply that when cleaning surfaces and door handles

It's a surfactant. It kills bacteria and viruses and is far more effective than alcohol based hand sanitisers.

Take that as information from a scientist that used surfactants to rupture cells as part of a project. We used it because it was better than alcohol.

jester77

CFlat wrote: »

God you have to feel sorry for couples who probably spent the last 18 months or so preparing their wedding and now may have to cancel:(

Weddings usually have a lot of older people. You don't want to be that couple that has a wedding where a guest without symptoms passes it onto the older people.

pc7

completedit wrote: »

How would you even begin to stock up? I buy as I need. Wouldn’t have been able to stock up 3 weeks ago. All the food would have been gone by now.

I started picking up extra (when Wuhan got locked down), it was all stuff that wouldn't go out of date and we would use in time. An extra porridge, jam, honey, pasta etc. just a little in each shop. Put them into presses in another room and kept normal presses stocked as normal. Same with some items I could freeze. I have asthma and wanted to be in a position that I could stay in and isolate if I got sick or if people started panic buying, I didn't want to be in crowded shops etc. like people today. My little extra every week would have made no difference to supply chains.

h0neybadger

Tech company - we are being sent home to work until end of March.

Walked over to Tesco's on my lunch. Turned around half way. The queue is absolute nuts. People are buying in bulk. Saw one lady pushing 2 full trolley's on her own.

tobefrank321

OneColdHand wrote: »

I've seen a lot of comments (both here and public statements) along the lines of 'The WHO has commended Ireland on doing a good job.'

I'm genuinely interested to know why we value their opinion, and advice, so much? Is it simply because they are the WHO?

I listened to this podcast last week, and the journalist is not impressed AT ALL with the WHO as an organisation.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/209-front-burner/episode/15764334-u.s.-scrambles-to-contain-covid-19-and-its-a-problem-for-everyone

Essentially, they f*cked up big time for the Ebola outbreak in 2014. They said that they would do some soul searching and make some changes. However, she points out that their budget (and presumably by extension, their resources) have not increased at all since then.

The bit about the WHO is pretty short, and starts at around the 10 or 11min mark.

I have no idea if she's right or not, so I'm interested to know if anyone else has come across similar information. Or is she swimming against the tide of opinion here? I feel it's important, because all through the development of Covid-19, the Irish Govt and health officials have repeated over and over 'we are following WHO advice'.

Basically any country who followed WHO advice about travel and flights (most countries in Western Europe including Ireland) have seen an explosion in cases.

Those countries who ignored WHO advice on restricting flights from hotspots came out well from this.

Far East Asian countries for the most part ignored WHO advice on air flight restrictions. Lucky them!

The Chinese told the WHO to f*ck off when they tried to muscle in. Lucky they did also.

cloudatlas

Dailymail have stated that Boris’s strategy is ‘herd immunity’. I think his strategy is Not to follow the lead of EU countries so that the U.K can stand out and this is political posturing and because of the economy.

facehugger99

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Don't buy into this nonsense. This really is the snowflake generation.

It really is hilarious to see the complete meltdown - it's very easy to separate the posters who've lived through real issues like the cold war in the 80's, where worldwide destruction was a real possibility, and the lads who are ****ting themselves at this.

namloc1980

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Jesus Christ,

I am sick of reading this is revisionist bull****,

We knew what was happening in china, as soon as this hit Europe we should have reacted as it takes anyone with half a brain to understand that if Italy had 3 REPORTED CONFIRMED cases it most likely had hundreds more.

You think that shutting down schools etc 3 weeks ago would've been tolerated when no other country was doing that in Europe at that stage. The experts on boards (who even now still think this is just a bit of a bad flu) would've lost their shiiit.

MarkY91

facehugger99 wrote: »

It really is hilarious to see the complete meltdown - it's very easy to separate the posters who've lived through real issues like the cold war in the 80's, where worldwide destruction was a real possibility, and the lads who are ****ting themselves at this.

You're so cool...

The Floyd p

facehugger99 wrote: »

It really is hilarious to see the complete meltdown - it's very easy to separate the posters who've lived through real issues like the cold war in the 80's, where worldwide destruction was a real possibility, and the lads who are ****ting themselves at this.

Back in my day etc, no one cares how hard you are.