Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

Sober Crappy Chemis

SusanC10 wrote: »

Think I am going to give this thread a break for the weekend for my sanity. My anxiety levels are getting too much. Every day I keep waiting for the Italian numbers to drop but they go up and up.

Kids watching a movie, Husband on the way home in the car, stocked up here for the weekend and beyond.

Rang the local shop down home today for my Mum. They will deliver groceries to her every week starting today. She is fully stocked with fuel thanks to a neighbour.

Can't do much else.
Might drop in here next week. Take care everyone.

Ditto.

Ironicname

SusanC10 wrote:

Think I am going to give this thread a break for the weekend for my sanity. My anxiety levels are getting too much. Every day I keep waiting for the Italian numbers to drop but they go up and up.

Good luck Susan. I'm in the same boat

littlemac1980

DeanAustin wrote: »

What incompetence? I think the official response here has been top class. Measured, no sense of panic but decisive. The communication has been pretty good too.

WHO seem very impressed with us.

Lol... your joking right? This thread is going since mid January. Government started taking it seriously about 3 weeks ago. Before that they were firmly in the “Just a flu bro” group. Go spin on another forum, long term posters here are a bit wiser than you think.

ironingbored

Dying for a pint

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Stheno

DeanAustin wrote: »

What incompetence? I think the official response here has been top class. Measured, no sense of panic but decisive. The communication has been pretty good too.

WHO seem very impressed with us.

Agreed their press conferences today were very reassuring.

And good to hear from the health professionals on here that they feel more optimistic too

amadangomor

is_that_so wrote: »

Leave people do what they will and assume that they, as adults, are taking appropriate precautions. As an age group they couldn't care less what people think, a healthy attitude IMO!

Someone just said he saw a load of 70+ year old men in the pub.

As long as someone who is willingly risking their lives and others by potentially spreading it out of pig ignorance or stupidity doesn't take a ICU bed from someone who took all precautions.

Some people need a good dose of reality and unfortunately it is coming soon.

ZX7R

ironingbored wrote: »

Dying for a pint

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But but who's minding the kids

BloodBath

MD1990 wrote: »

Italy cases are not accurate.

Way more than 17,000 have it.

Closer to 170,000 i would think.

Which if true would mean the death rate is also 10 times lower.

twirlagig

ironingbored wrote: »

Dying for a pint

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Are they actually queuing to get in??

circadian

whiskeyman wrote: »

Based in North Dublin and I've heard what sounds like one of the air corps rescue helicopters pass overheard at least 4 times today.
Never heard so many times in one day.

Nah its a smaller police helicopter, blue and white. Usually the rescue ones land beside me for the hospital but this one has been circling around the last 2 hours or so.

peddlelies

This is so dumb it made me laugh

statesaver

ironingbored wrote: »

Dying for a pint

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They are outside. FFS

ceadaoin.

thebaz wrote: »

anyone any idea why places like Thailand and Mexico are so low , and it is exploding all over Western Europe and U.S. ?

is it the West are doing more testing , and it is in fact rampant in Thaliand and Mexico as well or is it something else ?

I read something yesterday saying that high heat and humidity prevent the virus from spreading very efficiently

Rob A. Bank

Necro wrote: »

They called them out on it without naming them directly in their presser today.

Though I think they should go further and actually name them.

It's madness.

I'm so annoyed and worried for my elderly relatives in the UK who are seemingly going to be tossed on the Tory bonfire.

Seems like a very strange strategy for the Tories to adopt, considering a lot of their voters are in the endangered age groups.

I also cannot get my head around their 7 day self isolation advice, considering that the incubation period for the disease is internationally recognized as 2 - 14 days.

Looks like they are abandoning their elderly population in a very cruel social engineering experiment.

SleetAndSnow

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I read something yesterday saying that high heat and humidity prevent the virus from spreading very efficiently

considering brazil just jumped 87 cases and is currently 30 degrees..

is_that_so

circadian wrote: »

Nah its a smaller police helicopter, blue and white. Usually the rescue ones land beside me for the hospital but this one has been circling around the last 2 hours or so.

Probably looking for miscreants!

igCorcaigh

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

UK approach sounds absolutely nuts has WHO made any comment on it ?

Didn't hear any mention during the briefing, but their approach surely is going against the WHO appeals for containment. They can't ignore that.

Inquitus

is_that_so wrote: »

UK now considering/looking at school closures.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-school-closures-uk-gdp-ministers-warned

Europe and Ireland have a lot more social cohesion than the UK does, the impact of closing schools is less as friends and families step up and help, and even though we do have social issues with kids, they are miniscule in nature compared to the impact having all the UK's schoolkids at home for a prolonged period would cause. Remember the Pea and Rice riots et al of recent times, something truly unique to UK culture, so I can understand their reticence in doing this as it will likely suck up Police and other resources through an increase in crime and anti-social behaviour it causes.

thebaz

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I read something yesterday saying that high heat and humidity prevent the virus from spreading very efficiently

and I read a few places that heat , summer in Europe will have no effect on spread - I'm confused

RiseToMe

I'm sure this will get lost in the madness of this thread however I am at a loose end this evening once the kids are in bed and I'm really struggling with the inhumanity of a lot of people.

So if you are, or know of, anybody vulnerable who you need checked in on or needs food or meds picked up /delivered in North Dublin, drop me a Pm.

PokeHerKing

bilston wrote: »

What is the advantage of closing schools? Children (touch a rain forest worth of wood)appear to be very unlikely to get ill. Of course every country by the UK is doing it, so it obviously has merit.

Does anyone really believe they will re-open at the end of March, obviously that more or less ties in with the Easter holidays, so it's easy for the government to extend to mid April, but after that will they re-open? I honestly expect them to remain closed until September.

It really only has merit if its the start of more widespread restrictions/closures. We need to go into pretty much full lockdown for this to work. Otherwise we might as well take the UKs approach.

I'm hopeful we'll get more action very soon. But the fact Leo made the announcement from the US means I'm still pretty unsure if it was knee jerk/PR stunt or (hopefully) part of a more widespread staged plan.

Sober Crappy Chemis

So over 5000 deaths worldwide.
What are the final projections ?

isohon

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

considering brazil just jumped 87 cases and is currently 30 degrees..

And the mayor of miami, hot and humid central, just caught it off a visiting brazillian...

completedit

Inquitus wrote: »

Europe and Ireland have a lot more social cohesion than the UK does, the impact of closing schools is less as friends and families step up and help, and even though we do have social issues with kids, they are miniscule in nature compared to the impact having all the UK's schoolkids at home for a prolonged period would cause. Remember the Pea and Rice riots et al of recent times, something truly unique to UK culture, so I can understand their reticence in doing this as it will likely suck up Police and other resources through an increase in crime and anti-social behaviour it causes.

There is no social cohesion in Ireland

Pseudonym121

BloodBath wrote: »

I don't think you are qualified to make those calculations nor are you using all the possible data points.

Africa has by far the lowest median age of any continent with a median age of 19.7 years old compared to Europe's of 42.6 and China's (not a continent I know) 38.4 so I think your assumption that it will be way worse in Africa is way off despite their infrastructure.

Don't talk about the models as if you have any clue about how valid they are, what models were used and what data was entered into them because you don't. You're assuming a hell of a lot of stuff which is just bad science.

I'd very much like to see the models for these figures.

Ah, and what’s your experience in reviewing statistical models?

As to the age etc. Well over half of Iran’s population is under 30 and they’re doing amazingly well at curbing this so you must be right that median age is a wonderful protective factor in the face of a lack of socialised medicine, a functioning government, a healthcare system which can prevent deaths of the young of things we in the west consider diseases which only kill the old etc etc. *removes tongue from cheek*

In a more serious manner I’ll say that I’ve been speaking with doctors from Africa today and they fully expect it to run riot amongst the elderly there. All you need to have a 20% death rate there is for the elderly to have a 40% death rate instead of the 10% they’re having with all of the medical interventions rich socialised medicine countries can provide.

So, even if we assume that 80% are under 60 years of age in Africa the death rate among the 20% above could result in a horrifying toll because of basic governmental dysfunction and the lack of socialised medicine. You simply cannot build the capacity they will need rapidly enough to go from where they are to where they’ll need to be.

Obviously though you’re welcome to your opinion and I wish you and yours the best.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/FM104/status/1238525445093699586?s=20

Inquitus

completedit wrote: »

There is no social cohesion in Ireland

You haven't lived in England, it is night and day.

pgj2015

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

So over 5000 deaths worldwide.
What are the final projections ?

700,000 - 800,000

Peadar Mac An Bogger

thebaz wrote: »

anyone any idea why places like Thailand and Mexico are so low , and it is exploding all over Western Europe and U.S. ?

is it the West are doing more testing , and it is in fact rampant in Thaliand and Mexico as well or is it something else ?

Inadequate/lack of testing facilities but could boil down to just genetics, caucasians more susceptible to contracting the virus...judging by the last 3 weeks I'd say there is some truth to that coupled with more testing available so higher figures, who knows, I certainly don't.

BloodBath

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

So over 5000 deaths worldwide.
What are the final projections ?

7 billion.