Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

BetterWay wrote: »

Is it possible to read this thread like Reddit in terms of most Thanked posts?

The volume of posts in it and the speed its moving at is making it impossible to see the important stuff

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Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes, on the legacy site. Advanced search and search 'Title Only' using this thread title (or whatever thread you want). You'll get all the posts and you can then sort by 'Most Thanked'. You can keep refreshing it.

Sorry, the above is incorrect.

Legacy site, in the top right corner of the the thread 'Search This Thread', go in there and put ** in the post search field. Should get all the post in the thread which you can then sort by most thanked.

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This is a letter from the President of the Order of Surgeons and Dentists in Brescia

https://www.ordinemedici.brescia.it/archivio10_notizie-e-comunicati_0_1845.html

A not very accurate English translation (google):
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ordinemedici.brescia.it%2Farchivio10_notizie-e-comunicati_0_1845.html

EDITED:

News - News of the Order

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THEM ALL BY NAME by Ottavio Di Stefano
Wed 11 Mar, 2020

I can't recall the surname, but I do remember the first name of that colleague whom I have always known and who is now intubated.

I would like to call them all by name, the pediatricians, the family doctors, those of the hospital, doctors and otherwise, who live on their skin the disease they were trying to cure.

I am old, I have been doing this job in Brescia for more than 40 years, and I know many of my generation, but I would like to call them all by name and tell them, even if it is little, perhaps nothing, that this community of ours, not a caste, not a class, is a community of men and women who has them in their hearts and minds.

I am writing these words having learned, a few minutes ago, that a Lombardy-based president, whose honor and friendship I was honored, passed away, for COVID 19, at five o'clock tonight. He was 67 years old and was a family doctor.

I really struggle to sit here answering dozens of daily questions, many serious, some trivial and out of place, and few, very few, completely stupid.

I really struggle to sit here reading the resolutions, the decrees and trying to interpret them, with their frequent contradictions, to keep you informed.

Tonight the ATS [Health Protection Agency] primary care group will meet, as requested by the Order.

This morning, we've been told, the Region's "new" behavioural rules for pediatricians and family doctors will arrive.

I will say few things. Elimination of bureaucracy, recruitment of all available doctors, specialists, trainees, including recent graduates (I am studying the enrollment "sub judice" for those who have not yet taken the state exam; I know it is almost impossible, but there are 173 doctors !!! awaiting certification) for replacements and support of all categories (Pediatricians, GPs and, even if it is the primary care level, the Hospital Staff). Closure of all non-deferrable outpatient activities (not many) to recruit doctors and nurses also by offering exceptional instruments (injunction). Few clear clinical rules that guide the behavior of doctors on COVID19 patients and information disseminated to the population on the restrictions on access to the [Italian] NHS for this which is a calamity.

I am feeling very emotional as I write this and I apologize for the tone. But I have a great desire to get up from this comfortable armchair, to don all the protective gear, with every possible DIP and to take my mouldy sthetoscope out of my bag.

Ottavio Di Stefano"
Brescia 11 March 2020

yourdeadwright

PokeHerKing wrote: »

The ignorance and arrogance is startling. When the HSE is overrun with this and nurses/doctors are getting sick
then plenty of people will die of the virus and other illnesses/accidents because guess what, when resources are stretched every area suffers.

Also old people have recovered and young people have died, young healthy people have needed weeks of intubation just to survive.

People are so quick to climb on there high horse,
I simple asked a question, I did not make a statement, so what is the issue ?

statesaver

namloc1980 wrote: »

+2,313 in Italy today and +196 deaths. It's out of control there.

Fcuk, that's heartbreaking.

EDIT; That's demoralising.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Doyler99 wrote: »

What time are the Irish numbers released at?

It's been as early as 5:30

and as late as 10pm.

Ficheall

wakka12 wrote: »

Italy now has by far the largest number of cases per capita in the world at over 206 per million, twice as many as Iran and 4x times as many as China

San Marino has 1 per 539..

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1237789622626930689

biko

First death in Ireland confirmed

https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#march-11

March 11
The Health Protection Surveillance Centre has today been informed that a patient diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland has passed away.

This is the first recorded death relating to COVID-19 reported in Ireland.

tobefrank321

namloc1980 wrote: »

+2,313 in Italy today and +196 deaths. It's out of control there.

If that is not warning enough to our government to shut down schools, workplaces, sporting events, large gatherings and possibly public transport I don't know what is.

We're being given a hugely important lesson from Italy and our government just ignores it, thinking they know better.

circadian

beolight wrote: »

Today we learn that doctors are being told to go to hardware to buy masks?

What else are we not hearing?......

I’m hearing that in Dublin that no protective clothing/gloves/ masks /glasses or hand sanitizers are making their way to medical staff working in community

Single use protective glasses ED staff being told to wipe with alcohol wipe and reuse

Can any journalists or media person ask Simon Harris Do our front line medical professionals have all the necessary protective equipment to allow them to carry out their duties.

Social distancing is not an option for medical staff

Source for any of this?

igCorcaigh

Stheno wrote: »

Jesus

God love the medics there

900 in ICU

How are they going to cope.

wakka12

https://www.axios.com/congressional-physician-predicts-75-150-million-us-coronavirus-cases-fec69e77-1515-4fbc-8340-c53b65c22c53.html
25-45% of the US population predicted to contract coronavirus. It is at least the fifth government study worldwide to predict upwards of 1/3 of the population contracting it.

DOCARCH

namloc1980 wrote: »

+2,313 in Italy today and +196 deaths. It's out of control there.

Fup me!

That's going to cause shockwaves/give a dose of reality to Europe.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I'm surprised that the Liverpool Athletico game wasn't cancelled with Madrid being a hotspot. I know it's in Liverpool but supporters will be coming from Spain.

the butcher

Lombardy’s health service scores 9.9/10 in OECD ranking and is in the top 5% in health compared across all OECD regions. COVID19 mortality rate in Lombardy is now 8%, more than double Wuhan. Lombardy health system is completely beyond ability to deliver adequate care - rationing who gets ICUs.

We need to start take action NOW. A lot of us on these threads have been calling for restricting flights, transparent information on cases, closing schools/churches/mass gatherings. This should have been done last week. I do not buy the "you can't start these measures too early." well you definitely cannot start them too late!!!

Sam Quentin

I'd like to start of with a quick story.
Up until 5yrs ago I would suffer mild hay fever most summers, nothing I couldn't cope with but a little annoying. Anyway that was until a friend of my Mum who seen me sneeze and sniffle one sunny day and asked ohhh have you hay-fever,I said "aye it's grand just a bit here and there".. so she suggested I rub a small dab of Vaseline at the entrance to my nostrils and went on to explain about how the pollen would stick to the vaseline and prevent it from entering my system, I thought yes that actually makes sense.... Long story short that's exactly what I have done ever since and I swear my 'mild' hay-fever has never returned.
Look I stand to be corrected by science, I stand to be corrected by boardsies etc no worries.. but if I thought this would even stop one grain of covid 19 entering my system then give it a go shir what have you got to lose

VinLieger

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.axios.com/congressional-physician-predicts-75-150-million-us-coronavirus-cases-fec69e77-1515-4fbc-8340-c53b65c22c53.html
20-40% of the US population predicted to contract coronavirus. It is at least the fifth government study worldwide to predict upwards of 1/3 citizens contracting it

Yup with a 10% diabetes rate which is in the top 3 of most serious underlying conditions to be worried about

hblock21

igCorcaigh wrote: »

900 in ICU

How are they going to cope.

And all in an induced coma.

No visitors and when they die straight into a coffin and never opened again...

spookwoman

circadian wrote: »

Source for any of this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-gps-told-to-go-to-hardware-shops-for-face-masks-1.4199783

madcabbage

I ain't a man for pray but christ i pray and hope all those poor people in Italy get through this, those numbers are scary.

SusanC10

Once again stunned by the numbers coming out of Italy.
I don't know what to say.

Fleetwoodmac

beolight wrote: »

Today we learn that doctors are being told to go to hardware to buy masks?

What else are we not hearing?......

I’m hearing that in Dublin that no protective clothing/gloves/ masks /glasses or hand sanitizers are making their way to medical staff working in community

Single use protective glasses ED staff being told to wipe with alcohol wipe and reuse

Can any journalists or media person ask Simon Harris Do our front line medical professionals have all the necessary protective equipment to allow them to carry out their duties.

Social distancing is not an option for medical staff

If this is correct, then to have shortages of vital equipment so early in the game is shocking. Should we not be putting an embargo on products produced here leaving the country.. other countries have done so.

The White Wolf

DOCARCH wrote: »

Fup me!

That's going to cause shockwaves/give a dose of reality to Europe.

It's a very ambiguous post as I can't see any official suggestion of a Spike in Italy today.

gabeeg

2,313 new cases and 196 new deaths in Italy. About 600 new cases can be ascribed to the previous day's delay in reporting

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The case increase makes more sense now.

The number of deaths is hard to take in though. Even when you're expecting it. Those poor people.

igCorcaigh

Italy cfr climbs again to 6.6pc
That's greater than the official closed case cfr of 6pc.

Wombatman

wakka12 wrote: »

Italy now has by far the largest number of cases per capita in the world at over 206 per million, twice as many as Iran and 4x times as many as China

Is it possible your average Chinese person had an immune system better equipped to deal with this type of virus, either due to repleted exposure to similar pathogens or genetic differences?

Didn't something similar happen when Europeans brought minor illnesses to native North Americans.

Could be way off here.

MarkY91

Should they not be installing hand sanitizers onto all public transport?

namloc1980

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.axios.com/congressional-physician-predicts-75-150-million-us-coronavirus-cases-fec69e77-1515-4fbc-8340-c53b65c22c53.html
20-40% of the US population predicted to contract coronavirus. It is at least the fifth government study worldwide to predict upwards of 1/3 of the population contracting it.

Not being funny but IMHO the USA has a very high propensity for societal breakdown if this gets out of hand over there.

industry accountant

Nermal wrote: »

They're not expendable, but they're not priceless either. No one is. A certain amount of excess deaths is preferable to an economic depression.

Whata horrible, disgusting post. Come back and say that when it hits your family, idiot.

DOCARCH

Death rate in Italy, on latest figures, running at 6.6%.