Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

gmisk

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Counter strike

I wish I worked for a company called Counter Strike!

wakka12

namloc1980 wrote: »

Have your seen the story in Italy? 7,000 people died outside of China today from this.

No they didnt. 340 died today outside China, there were 7000 cases outside china today

Gynoid

Is this a crazy idea -

If you can work from home and get paid, do it. Great.
If you need to go to work to provide vital service, also do it.
If you have non vital job, and cannot work from home, how about govt gives all those people 1000 euros ( like a UBI payment) to stay home for a month. PAYE and self employed, all workers.
Even if every single worker in country got that it would be about 2 million x 1000 = 2 billion.
The govt spending annually is about 80 billion, so it would be 1/40th of that. But it might stop or slow a strain on health services that might result in a horrible situation in a month.

It would mean people could mind their children at home too. It would mean vital service workers would meet fewer who could make them sick.

Mortgage payments in UK are gearing up for possible repayment holiday, which could apply for that month. Landlords could get the UBI for the month and allow rent holiday. All the business owners that would have to shut would get the UBI.

Sounds like a lot of money but it might be cheaper than the country going to the wall with a heavy spread of virus that causes 10% or more of people to become quite sick.

Crazy? Okay maybe probably, but it is just a thought...

Stevieluvsye

jokeshop wrote: »

I'd argue that you work for a company that probably shouldn't exist if it can just stop working for 3 weeks off the back of something that will kill a handful of people who were already on deaths door.

Ye we’ll stop working in the office. This fcuking thread

namloc1980

wakka12 wrote: »

No they didnt. 340 died today outside China, there were 7000 cases outside china today

I meant newly infected.

igCorcaigh

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

The optimist in me all these predictions of thousands dead are highly unlikely to be true IMO.

Hoping so, but that's just hope.

I gave my uneducated guesses to how this will play very early in these threads, and things are following the path I feared.

namloc1980

jokeshop wrote: »

This may shock you, but there are actually more people in the world who aren't in China than there are people who are in China.

I was responding to someone who said this will all have blown over in a month. That, quite frankly, is not going to happen.

gmisk

Gynoid wrote: »

Is this a crazy idea -

If you can work from home and get paid, do it. Great.
If you need to go to work to provide vital service, also do it.
If you have non vital job, and cannot work from home, how about govt gives all those people 1000 euros ( like a UBI payment) to stay home for a month. PAYE and self employed, all workers.
Even if every single worker in country got that it would be about 2 million x 1000 = 2 billion.
The govt spending annually is about 80 billion, so it would be 1/40th of that. But it might stop or slow a strain on health services that might result in a horrible situation in a month.

It would mean people could mind their children at home too. It would mean vital service workers would meet fewer who could make them sick.

Mortgage payments in UK are gearing up for possible repayment holiday, which could apply for that month. Landlords could get the UBI for the month and allow rent holiday. All the business owners that would have to shut would get the UBI.

Sounds like a lot of money but it might be cheaper than the country going to the wall with a heavy spread of virus that causes 10% or more of people to become quite sick.

Crazy? Okay maybe probably, but it is just a thought...

Government have already increased sick pay to 305 per week to private sector workers to stay at home if you have corona, same for self employed

Cilldara_2000

givyjoe wrote: »

Denmark starting to shut down.
https://twitter.com/business/status/1237843762262315009?s=19

Denmark is an interesting comparison with ROI. Their first case was 2 days before ours. They've had either the same number of new cases or an increase everyday. They have conducted slightly less tests than we have (linky) despite the two day head start.

We're on day 12 at 43 cases. On day 12 they went from 37 to 92.

Clarence Boddiker

patsman07 wrote: »

Everyone should trust only mainstream media/government/hse websites for their information on this.

Just a few short weeks ago the mainstream media were telling us there was nothing to worry about and the risk of it spreading in Ireland was low...

Funsterdelux

Blueshoe wrote: »

Today I was in Limerick and Tipperary with work. Handling foodstuffs. Tomorrow I will be in Kildare and Westmeath. Again handling foodstuffs.

I'm seeing lots of shops with no hand sanitizer out , staff handling coins and a general no real difference.
In the beginning I wasn't overly concerned. Now that I'm taking note of how people are acting I am.

I asked my fishman today was he going to be using card payments, he said that he hadnt good enough signal in some the towns he goes to. But he did say he had a sponge wuth disinfectant ehen handling cash. He'd have to have good hygiene in general anyway.

Cilldara_2000

jill_valentine wrote: »

Possibly stupid question - as the numbers of recovered patients go up, can those people contribute anything to the search for a vaccine/treatment? If, presumably, they're generating antibodies, can those antibodies be transferred person to person?

Based on Luke O'Neill's interview with Pat Kenny this morning, it will be some benefit. I can't recall the exact content but he did mention antibodies in this sort of context.

The HorsesMouth

Anyone read anything about a new drug being trialled..it has already been given to a patient in washington and some in China and have shown to dramatically reduce symptoms in critical patients? Its going into trials proper this week. Apparently going to be available in Ireland in 1 month according to Prof Luke o Neill?

whisky_galore

Leo should stay at home instead of photo ops with a stupid bowl of shamrock and an orange faced baboon. Send Mickey D if someone must go.

igCorcaigh

Italy's new measures are approaching those we have seen in parts of China, but not that severe.

Shutting down all but essential business is no small step.

Hopefully this means the lockdown period will be short, and businesses can recover with government help soon after. A good decision. A more prolonged and heightened outbreak will collapse huge sectors of the economy.

Cupatae

jokeshop wrote: »

Let's shut down society on "might have" and people who would die from a stiff breeze dying from something else instead.

You been living under a rock or something ? You do realise there are thousands of cases world wide right ? With thousands of death's ?

People with your logic are the reason this thing will spread, I'm alright jack.. while ya might have had a case a few weeks ago it's painfully obvious to see it's only a matter of time before more drastic measures are brought in.

"Shur it's only a cough **** everyone else I'll be grand"

jokeshop

jokeshop wrote: »

I hope you get this worked up about the thousands of people a year that die from the various flus that are harmless to the vast majority of the population.

Your act isn't going over. I suggest you delete your account.

Exclamation Marc

jokeshop wrote: »

I'd argue that you work for a company that probably shouldn't exist if it can just stop working for 3 weeks off the back of something that will kill a handful of people who were already on deaths door.

We're all so glad that you joined Boards today to remind everyone that no matter how awful a poster you see, there's always one far worse, spouting ridiculous sh!te with absolutely no value or redeemable quality.

jokeshop wrote: »

This thread is frankly disgusting.

A bunch of psychos posting lad-in-hand about doomsday scenarios and stuff they heard from someone on Facebook.

So much misinformation and outright bull****. This will be looked back on in the same way as Y2K, peak-oil, SARS etc. A "crisis" completely created by the media and idiots who love a bit of misery porn.

And also for following in the mould of exactly what you identified yourself.

Xertz

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Denmark is an interesting comparison with ROI. Their first case was 2 days before ours. They've had either the same number of new cases or an increase everyday. They have conducted slightly less tests than we have (linky) despite the two day head start.

We're on day 12 at 43 cases. On day 12 they went from 37 to 92.

I would very much like to see the number of cases being tested though for comparison.

gmisk

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Denmark is an interesting comparison with ROI. Their first case was 2 days before ours. They've had either the same number of new cases or an increase everyday. They have conducted slightly less tests than we have (linky) despite the two day head start.

We're on day 12 at 43 cases. On day 12 they went from 37 to 92.

That is a pretty interesting comparison alright, but should we not have a bit of an advantage being an island? Not as if we have rail or road links to other countries?

branie2

There is hand sanitser in a place I go to for a club, and I make sure to use it, and I use it after washing my hands when I come home from town

namloc1980

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Denmark is an interesting comparison with ROI. Their first case was 2 days before ours. They've had either the same number of new cases or an increase everyday. They have conducted slightly less tests than we have (linky) despite the two day head start.

We're on day 12 at 43 cases. On day 12 they went from 37 to 92.

I think it got into the nursing home system over there which has driven up the numbers. Which is why the Dept of Health insistence that nursing homes here should lift their own visitor ban is bizarre.

Gynoid

gmisk wrote: »

Government have already increased sick pay to 305 per week to private sector workers to stay at home if you have corona, same for self employed

Yes but this idea is different. It is not for sick people. It is for everyone. To self isolate basically. To catch hold of things. And to allow time for response.

Junkyard Tom

We could be doing with a COVID19 resource/support/good-news thread.

gmisk

branie2 wrote: »

There is hand sanitser in a place I go to for a club, and I make sure to use it, and I use it after washing my hands when I come home from town

Of some seals?
You monster!

Ninthlife

jokeshop wrote: »

I hope you get this worked up about the thousands of people a year that die from the various flus that are harmless to the vast majority of the population.

Not worked up at all just wanted you to know youre a gob****e

amadangomor

screamer wrote: »

Big building sites now scanning every worker for temperature when they arrive onsite.
Relative of mine went into a hospital for outpatient appt today, seriously immuno compromised same as the others there waiting, and wore a mask to try protect against anything in the hospital. Everyone staring them out of it, nurses almost laughing at my relative, lots of snide remarks, and the covid signs only being put up in the hospital..... I despair.

Most masks only protect other people from the person wearing the mask they won't help protecting you against other potentially infected people. (Unless you go around wearing a repirator or something similar)

retro:electro

branie2 wrote: »

There is hand sanitser in a place I go to for a club, and I make sure to use it, and I use it after washing my hands when I come home from town

Good man branie

odyssey06

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Anyone read anything about a new drug being trialled..it has already been given to a patient in washington and some in China and have shown to dramatically reduce symptoms in critical patients? Its going into trials proper this week. Apparently going to be available in Ireland in 1 month according to Prof Luke o Neill?

They are trialling remdesivir in those places - developed for ebola.

Irish timeline seems ambitious.

sadie1502

Actemra will they treat patients in ireland with this if needed. Surly this is a bit of light?