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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Don’t be silly. Horse racing is a multi billion industry that helps keep the country afloat.

    It is also an industry that enjoys the taxpayers giving it a free fooking ride in many respects.

    Why were stud fees tax exempt until 2008 ?

    The cost of a stallion can still be written off at 25%.


    Why is ownership of land and horse treated as farming and taxable whereas ownership of a racehorse treated as a hobby and winning not taxable ?

    And Coolmore, Ballydoyle, Gordon Elliott, numerous other trainers, jockies and associated industries.

    No fooking wonder Coolmore and Ballydoyle are multi millionaire euro operations since they have and still enjoy tax free profits.
    And yes they do, because stud farms or racing organisatuion can sell a successful horse and not pay tax on profits.

    Coolmore, that mulitmillion outfit that has been buying up all available land in Tipperary and partially owned by one John Magnier, who coincidentally made millions in untaxable stud fees thanks to Magniers good friend one Charlie Haughey.
    I’ll admit that I’m over here in Cheltenham. I wasn’t going to go, but made the decision on Tuesday that I would as I’d everything booked. It’s normally the highlight of my year, even if the atmosphere is slightly more subdued at this running of the festival.

    I’d say both countries are riddled with the corona at this stage so it wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference calling it off.

    So you decided what the fook shure why not enjoy yourself and to hell with everyone else.
    I shure hope you have no elderly relatives.

    I think anyone that returns from Cheltenham and presents at hospital with Covid 19 should be sent to end of queue.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Rufeo wrote: »
    Will you go over there to wash your arse?

    Lol, sorry that sounded awful.

    Wipe left, shake right. Just do NOT get them mixed up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    While I'm at it.
    When did people become so mean spirited that they have no respect for old people?
    I've noticed it getting worse for a few years, as if it's a backlash against our strict, controlling culture in the past. Maybe to some, all older people represent that judgemental authoritarian past when people were expected to show unquestioning deference to older people regardless of their character. Whatever, it's very dehumanising and callous.

    That is fully part of it and it's not just about the past but about the present. In the same manner as I saw many repulsive comments along the lines of "old people shouldn't be allowed to vote, they won't live long enough to deal with the consequences" after Trump and Brexit, I've seen many not-so-tongue in cheek memes this week responding to the brushing aside of the elderly's concerns about COVID with "young people are treating COVID the same way old people are treating climate change, tough sh!t".

    Generational warfare has always been a thing but I think it's particularly bad at the moment for a variety of reasons to be honest. A sizeable cohort of millennials feel (not without some justification) that they are in direct opposition to the older generation who, in their eyes, have pulled the ladder up and left young folk to drown. It's the mentality behind this, it's the mentality behind "ok boomer", it's the mentality behind a lot of discourse during the 2010s decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Thats been debunked already, the army thing. You'll hear plenty of BS over the weekend.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/whastapp-defence-forces-debunked-5044990-Mar2020/
    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/government-quashes-rumours-of-plans-to-bring-in-status-red-emergency-over-coronavirus-39042445.html

    We don't have the numbers in the army or the Gardaí to enforce it anyway.

    Is it though? Paschal says its not true but that official army letter looks authentic to me unless some troll went to the trouble of creating a fake. Its not surprising the army would be gearing up to be ready, times like this they could be needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Tesco had 5 for €5 on Easter eggs Today by the way!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    jmayo wrote: »
    It is also an industry that enjoys the taxpayers giving it a free fooking ride in many respects.

    Why were stud fees tax exempt until 2008 ?

    The cost of a stallion can still be written off at 25%.


    Why is ownership of land and horse treated as farming and taxable whereas ownership of a racehorse treated as a hobby and winning not taxable ?




    No fooking wonder Coolmore and Ballydoyle are multi millionaire euro operations since they have and still enjoy tax free profits.
    And yes they do, because stud farms or racing organisatuion can sell a successful horse and not pay tax on profits.

    Coolmore, that mulitmillion outfit that has been buying up all available land in Tipperary and partially owned by one John Magnier, who coincidentally made millions in untaxable stud fees thanks to Magniers good friend one Charlie Haughey.



    So you decided what the fook shure why not enjoy yourself and to hell with everyone else.
    I shure hope you have no elderly relatives.



    I think anyone that returns from Cheltenham and presents at hospital with Covid 19 should be sent to end of queue.

    The tasty tax breaks they get should be diverted into the CV19 fund. Soften their cough a little bit. Billionaires pretending to be sportsmen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Tesco had 5 for €5 on Easter eggs Today by the way!

    Great in the middle of Lent,,,,,and me trying to be buachaill go maith,,,,, struggling now after the easter egg news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    stinger31 wrote: »
    I've already heard of people being burnt on money that was owed to them. My friend has a business that gets subcontracted a lot, he has a team of 6 lads that help him. He's already done the work but was told tonight he's not getting paid and tough sh1t.

    This has all the hallmarks of the last recession i'm afraid. I can see massive lines down the dole office like the last time.

    This is absolutely nothing like the last recession


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I've nothing against it. People are preparing for the worst, perhaps they don't trust the government and expect this quasi lockdown to go on for much longer than 2 weeks (which it will).

    This. Our culture of "tell everyone it's grand and then do a massive U-turn at the last minute" is directly responsible for what we're seeing now. It still boggles my mind that the red alert and countrywide lockdown for Hurricane Ophelia was only announced literally after dark the night before, Ireland was in the forecast cone for that hurricane for a full five days before it hit (we were first "coned" by the hurricane forecasting centre in America on the Thursday, with an expected landfall the following Monday) and yet the lockdown, closure of schools, advice to stay home from work, etc was only issues Sunday evening, and to my recollection it was actually after the Nine O'Clock news by the time that message was disseminated. If we'd had any common sense we'd have announced it as a precaution the Friday before, at least.

    People taking matters into their own hands like this is what happens when not only is communication from the top inconsistent and insufficient, but when people know it will be inconsistent and insufficient because the country has such a long track record of same.

    The reasons behind this are debatable, some would say it's just symptomatic of the widespread disorganisation in the Irish government but tbh I'd be more cynical and say that it's because our government tends to prioritise corporate economics over literally everything else, and they don't want to take the risk of losing a day of economic productivity unless the barbarians are already through the gates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,051 ✭✭✭appledrop


    We were just at our local super valu + it was grand.

    No queues + plenty of fresh fruit + veg.

    Everything was in plentiful supply except for toilet roll& hand wash none to be had.

    Bread was low but there was some.

    Obviously all the panic buyers were out yesterday or early this morning.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Love when posters get all hot and bothered without knowing basic facts. Fact is that it's a 4 day festival, not 5.

    Oh look its Maryanne. Aren't you always on every other thread especially those about social housing talking about personal responsibility.

    Only when it suits the agenda what Mary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭gary550


    Tesco had 5 for €5 on Easter eggs Today by the way!

    I would imagine they realised that the people coming in buying a heap of sh*t were of the low IQ variety so decided to kill two idiots with the one stone and sell them some easter eggs too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Love when posters get all hot and bothered without knowing basic facts. Fact is that it's a 4 day festival, not 5.

    Have it your way so, 4 days of wreckless idiocy instead of 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    gary550 wrote: »
    I would imagine they realised that the people coming in buying a heap of sh*t were of the low IQ variety so decided to kill two idiots with the one stone and sell them some easter eggs too.

    It's generally around Patrick's Day they do the offer!


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    threeball wrote: »
    The tasty tax breaks they get should be diverted into the CV19 fund. Soften their cough a little bit. Billionaires pretending to be sportsmen

    Tell that to the thousands employed directly and indirectly in the horse racing industry. It’s not just stud owners or owners and trainers of the top horses. There’s the ancillary workers in so many parallel Industries.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Oh look its Maryanne. Aren't you always on every other thread especially those about social housing talking about personal responsibility.

    Only when it suits the agenda what Mary.

    Doesn’t change the fact that the poster got their facts wrong!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Have it your way so, 4 days of wreckless idiocy instead of 5.

    "CE schemes can improve one’s self worth and self esteem. Give one a sense of pride in their communities"

    Mary posted that a couple of days ago in a different thread. Lots of pride in their communities the Cheltenham degenerates are showing alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    appledrop wrote: »
    We were just at our local super valu + it was grand.

    No queues + plenty of fresh fruit + veg.

    Everything was in plentiful supply except for toilet roll& hand wash none to be had.

    Bread was low but there was some.

    Obviously all the panic buyers were out yesterday or early this morning.

    I saw somebody make a heartfelt plea to stop the panic buying and to think of the elderly, poor and pregnant woman.
    I then went to town for somebody and they had most type of bread, toilet rolls, fruit, veg,etc.

    People were doing big shops so they wouldn't be popping in during the week tough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Anyone who hasn't been amd isn't doing everything they can to protect themselves and those around them are absolute *****.

    We need to pull together to get through this but certain people's recklessness will not be forgotten when/if we come through the other end. GAA/LOI matches, premiership matches, little city breaks, even going to nightclubs included. Over the last week or two, we've all known this was a possibility. Too many people were selfish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Doesn’t change the fact that the poster got their facts wrong!

    Go wan out of that. #doublestandards when it suits ya


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Doesn’t change the fact that the poster got their facts wrong!

    So what? 4 days or 5 days. If it was 1 day, they'd still be selfish *****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Doesn’t change the fact that the poster got their facts wrong!

    Oh no. I thought a poxy horse racing festival full of p*ssed up gamblers in the middle of an international health crisis had 5 days of racing instead of 4.

    How will I ever recover from such an error?

    If you're going to play gotcha, make it better than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Plenty of stock in our local SuperValu but Aldi is fairly low on stuff.
    What a world!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    A nice lady from Supervalu just rang me to follow up on my click and collect order from this morning, apologising that so many items were missing, but reassuring that they had plenty of supplies, and will be constantly restocking. I thought it was good customer service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Local Boots have a sign up saying there is a limit on the purchase of certain products. It doesn't say what and you have to ask "a member of the team"!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    The government should have made educational videos for the RTE News showing the size of the distribution centres of all the main supermarkets in this country
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah Lidl just built a new distribution centre outside Newbridge and next to the M7. Passed it a few weeks back and from the road you can see all the loading bays for lorries to pull up and be filled, they are numbered and theres 75 in total. The building is massive. AFAIK Tescos distribution centre in Ballymun is the biggest building in Ireland.
    )
    The 4pm news on RTÉ1 (during Maura and Daithí) just showed the amount of stock that the Lidl distribution place in Newbridge actually has, and then some government woman explaining it (but somebody distracted me so I didn't hear what she actually said). I think she was saying "Calm down! We have stuff!", and that's what people need to realise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Stark wrote: »
    Do you have a source?

    Flu vaccine is least effective against H3N2 strains which is was the dominant strain in Ireland this year:

    Only figures I could find were from the CDC which had a good season, but they had very few H3N2 cases compared to us

    I am not able at the moment to get back to the source as well even if I managed I wouldn't be able to post a link as a new poster. But definitely I read in trusted sources that this time they perfectly predicted it.

    I'm afraid they don't test everyone to know, the cause of illness. I don't remember ever being tested for a flu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,295 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The 4pm news on RTÉ1 (during Maura and Daithí) just showed the amount of stock that the Lidl distribution place in Newbridge actually has, and then some government woman explaining it (but somebody distracted me so I didn't hear what she actually said). I think she was saying "Calm down! We have stuff!", and that's what people need to realise.

    Send the army there pronto. The air force too.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Local Boots have a sign up saying there is a limit on the purchase of certain products. It doesn't say what and you have to ask "a member of the team"!

    That so normal people can go in and buy things normally

    And absolute idiots need to ask can they take the full stock of whatever and be told to fup of with themselves


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    We saw how quick they were to cancel Cheltenham in 2001 when their precious horses were at risk.

    No such concerns this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    As long as they publish the Sunday independent, I won’t run short of arspaper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Thank you most fervently for this post, all of it but especially bolded. Panic is a terrible feeling and demands ACTIOn without thought

    Some of the worst decisions I've ever made were due to acting without thought during moments of panic so I have to totally disagree with you.

    Yesterday's thoughtless, mindless sheepfest in the supermarkets can only serve to make things much worse because people are cross contaminating each other. It's utter and total mindless ignorance and wouldn't look out of place in a South Park episode.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Oh no. I thought a poxy horse racing festival full of p*ssed up gamblers in the middle of an international health crisis had 5 days of racing instead of 4.

    How will I ever recover from such an error?

    If you're going to play gotcha, make it better than that.

    Lack of personal responsibility. Terrible to witness but not surprising with the horsey set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I think it's pretty harmful to be speculating that a load of people in Ireland have already had this and come through it just fine. Making people complacent is not really what we should be angling for.

    My intent was not to make people complacent only not to panic that much, which can be harmful as well. I simply would feel better, if such eventuality was excluded because so much recourses, will be spent on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Lack of personal responsibility. Terrible to witness but not surprising with the horsey set.


    I fear due to the extensive interbreeding practices over many generations which the horsey set and the jumped up boggers are known for then they are more than likely completely immune to Coronavirus as well as common sense.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    endacl wrote: »
    You had a cold. If you had flu you’d know it.

    How to spot an idiot 101.

    Employee: Boss I won't be in work today I have the flu

    Boss: Okay look after yourself

    Employee: Thanks I should be back in tomorrow

    Boss: You are fired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    Ficheall wrote: »
    I think it's pretty harmful to be speculating that a load of people in Ireland have already had this and come through it just fine. Making people complacent is not really what we should be angling for.

    Also worries don't help, while trust that we will be all right can be a huge healing factor.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I thought Covid-19 is a new strain? I get the flu shot annually and the flu shot wouldn't cover this. I usually get colds easily too but I didn't even get a sniffle this winter. I had some bad hayfever and asthma two years ago. If Covid-19 was doing the rounds, surely it would have set up camp in my lungs.

    It's not a strain of the flu! It's a different type of virus


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭NovemberWren


    @Muahahaha. - "afaik... Tesco's, Ballymun building.... largest in Ireland".


    very probably is; and the shockingly overwhelmingly Shinner staff, will be giving us English cheddar from now to 4vr.

    (I always liked the smaller Tesco stores in London).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭stinger31


    OEP wrote: »
    This is absolutely nothing like the last recession

    i didnt mean how it started, i meant what will come. There will be a lot of job losses


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Tiredalways


    kippy wrote: »
    Pretty much all of the online shops from Tesco/Supervalue etc have been down for the past hour.
    Yes - the panic has well and truly began.

    I work in a big supermarket. It was insane. Our shop made nearly double the usual turnover and had to close early as it was empty.then loads of staff in early to refill the shelves.the worst, everyone joking about the panic buying and yet doing it themselves! We have the stock,its just logistics of warehouse to store.people need to calm down!(on a side note cramming into a shop with a few 100 others seems wise!)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We saw how quick they were to cancel Cheltenham in 2001 when their precious horses were at risk.

    No such concerns this time.

    I thought it was called off due to an outbreak of foot and mouth, which doesn’t affect horses. Again, a failure of facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,007 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I'm in software, and the entire company is working from home.

    I'm a permanent employee contracting to my employer's client. We'll be the first to go if cutbacks are made. However, I just go back to my parent company. Hopefully, the contract doesn't get cut as we have some really interesting work coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    tuxy wrote: »
    This should be moved to conspiracy theories as it keeps coming up. It was officially confirmed what was going around at Christmas time was a strain of influenza.
    That strain made you feel really awful but it did not attack the lungs as aggressively as covid-19

    I don't claim it is any cover up. I only don't trust that there were enough tests done to exclude such possibility. Also people could have had both at the same time: C19 and flu, while tests were only available for flu (if they even were carried out).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick about crèches but the notion of parents still having to pay fees when the places are closed seems wrong.

    Surely crèches in this country don't limp along financially and these measures aren't necessary to safeguard crèche workers wages?

    Crèche fees in this country are astronomical and the workers are paid crap wages. Is it insurance that's the main cost or something. Cost of the premises? Can anybody in the know elucidate?

    Or is it just another industry in Ireland that the government won't regulate and force to provide some sort of value to customers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    This is the 1st time I've genuinely hated working in a supermarket. The more people are told not to panic buy the worse it is because "what do the government know".

    Worked 8-8 yesterday doing nothing but online shoppings with no break (but that was my choice couldn't afford to stop). Today is heading the same way.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Heard a lot of people supplying lunches to schools let go earlier.
    Same to many businesses supplying schools and colleges.

    So many restaurants and cafes wont survive the next couple of weeks.

    A lot won't even make news but it's awfully sad.

    I wouldn’t mind but that’s all that’s left really on main streets across the country- restaurants cafes and pubs
    I’d say takeaways business will pick up considerably though with so many people now at home not going out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Some of the worst decisions I've ever made were due to acting without thought during moments of panic so I have to totally disagree with you.
    I'm not sure if Graces7 is quite saying that. My interpretation was that Panic "demands action without thought"...but you don't have to give in. If you're strong, you'll do the right thing.

    (Maybe that's a bit too much 'glass half full'.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    This is the 1st time I've genuinely hated working in a supermarket. The more people are told not to panic buy the worse it is because "what do the government know".

    Worked 8-8 yesterday doing nothing but online shoppings with no break (but that was my choice couldn't afford to stop). Today is heading the same way.

    What part of the county are you in out of interest?
    If you don't mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭OU812


    My company just put all contractors on a months notice that their work will be week to week from then on with the expectation that there'll be a lot of weeks with nothing. FTEs are being asked to express their interest in unpaid leave or going part time.


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