CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

Away With The Fairies

Most of my weekends were always boring. I now have an excuse to stay away from people.

emmabrighton

Does anyone on here have it yet? Be interesting to get a first hand experience of symptoms etc. Like, my hypochondria kicked in since a coworker coughed in the office last week. My chest feels like I just burst out of a burning building and I have a headache that won’t go away. Definitely dying of hypochondria if not Coronavirus

hetuzozaho

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Just announced they are closing but still packed ... ffs.

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=dublinpub

That's old footage I think.

TheCitizen

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

They are wrong. Their approach to this is utter stupidity and extremely dangerous. Are you actually disagreeing with that?

scamalert

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Lads and Ladies.

Ventilators. How hard can they be to manufacture in big numbers. Why isn't global production of these ramped up to thousands daily?

Anyone have any insight into these ?

problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

Bob24

Syncpolice wrote: »

This could be the undoing of BJ if it goes pear shaped

Which it looks like doing over the next.month or so

I think he will just change course next week and at the end of the day the U.K. will be the same as other European countries: containment but starting too late. No better but no worse.

otnomart

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

There are many places in southern italy which have free ventilators but it wouldn't be sensible to send sick people from Lombardy down there because that would just spread the infection.

Patients from Bergamo in Northern Italy have been transferred to Tuscany and even Puglia and Sicily (by military plane) to be treated in ICUs there.
https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-piano/2020/03/15/news/coronavirus-pazienti-da-bergamo-al-sud-con-un-volo-militare-1.38593783

ZX7R

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

In terms of the infection rate, we're actually worse, it's the eventual death rate that will be most telling.

That is mainly down to population
I believe

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Hell, I have a Consultant colleague and friend who is out on fairly long-term sick leave with a very serious issue who is accelerating his return to work so he can be back by the end of the month. He's literally sprinting towards the fire instead of away from it. It makes me proud of the front line staff.

We're the same in the defence forces, each and every one of my comrades are chomping at the bit to help out.

I'm on standby from 08:00 tomorrow morning to assist the HSE, I've been told I might be essential to my unit so I've volunteered my after work hours unpaid.

My brother is an AP with the NAS, he's suppose to be off over this weekend and tomorrow but he's stayed on to bring the fight to the virus.

Whether you're frontline medical, military,An Garda or civilian this is a fight where every man, woman and child can do their bit. There's no one useless.

Spook_ie

Duke of Url wrote: »

I was talking about the busker outside earlier

Fake post. You were late to the busker party.

So you can now use yourself as a prime example of fake news and posting a feed saying live music when there wasn't anymore.

Choose your wordings more carefully you can see how many were thinking you were referring to the trad music session

Strumms

Strumms wrote: »

Great to see, only interested in lining their pockets at the expense of the health and wellbeing of the population...

shower of self-interested cnuts in general.

(vintners)

Stheno

emmabrighton wrote: »

Does anyone on here have it yet? Be interesting to get a first hand experience of symptoms etc. Like, my hypochondria kicked in since a coworker coughed in the office last week. My chest feels like I just burst out of a burning building and I have a headache that won’t go away. Definitely dying of hypochondria if not Coronavirus

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0315/1123371-patient/

kyote00

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/19/sabisky-row-dominic-cummings-criticised-over-designer-babies-post

Strumms wrote: »

Great to see, only interested in lining their pockets at the expense of the health and wellbeing of the population...

SharpshooterTom

The US has supposedly added 151 today according to worldometers.

But I've noticed the US gets multiple changes throughout the day on worldometers, do they update on a state by state basis?

fritzelly

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

The US has supposedly added 151 today according to worldometers.

But I've noticed the US gets multiple changes throughout the day on worldometers, do they update on a state by state basis?

Every state seems to release their own numbers

Andrew00

Wanted to go for a pint but most the pubs in Galway are closed bar McGettigans which is packed with alcoholics cus they have nowhere else to go.

A certain pub in Woodquay said their were closed but they just have a fella on the door with curtains closed letting alchos in

otnomart

MarkY91 wrote: »

I can't imagine Italy's tourism industry recovering anywhere close to the time it will recover in Ireland.

I can imagine that, when Italy recovers, they will ban entries from Countries in which the virus will stiil be circulating.

FTA69

The UK is asleep at the wheel. I work for a large UK union and they’re insisting on sending us to work in Heathrow regularly; one of my colleagues is already in isolation with a dry cough and shallow breathing. We’re in deep sh*t here I think.

Lord TSC

scamalert wrote: »

problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

That’s also the man power issue.

I think I read that an ICU isn’t just the bed itself, but the ability to have doctors and nurses who are properly qualified to tend to the patient in them. It’s not just shoving a tube down a throat and presto, the person is saved. They need to be monitored.

Bob24

otnomart wrote: »

Patients from Bergamo in Northern Italy have been transferred to Tuscany and even Puglia and Sicily (by military plane) to be treated in ICUs there.
https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-piano/2020/03/15/news/coronavirus-pazienti-da-bergamo-al-sud-con-un-volo-militare-1.38593783

I think they are playing a dangerous game there. I guess they are taking precautions, but they are taking a risk of spreading the virus.

threeball

Sky showing kids shoving how can I help notes through pensioners doors.

You could fcuk off for a start and stop shoving snot covered slips through my door

Syncpolice

Bob24 wrote: »

I think he will just change course next week and at the end of the day the U.K. will be the same as other European countries: containment but starting too late. No better but no worse.

Will be interesting to see.what sort of BS he trots out.to cover for the mistake

ThePopehimself

The UK must be regretting Brexit:

The EU has announced restrictions on exports of masks and other protective medical equipment as it seeks to ensure its own supplies for the fight against the coronavirus epidemic.

"We adopted today an export authorisation scheme for protective equipment. This means that such medical goods can only be exported to non-EU countries with the explicit authorisation of the EU governments," European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in a video posted on Twitter.

1641

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

Agree - it is certainly not pig ignorant. It is certainly a big gamble, though.


If their understanding and prediction of the path of the virus turns out to be correct then they will feel thy have won. That is, if the virus returns in a new wave later in the year and they largely escape because of herd immunity, while the rest of Europe goes under again with even more deaths. But if that doesn't happen it will look a disastrous choice. In any event, it will be very difficult for them to see it through in the meantime because of the short-term human cost and the pressure of public opinion.

Axfrderr

Spook_ie wrote: »

So you can now use yourself as a prime example of fake news and posting a feed saying live music when there wasn't anymore.

But there was when he posted it. It made me smile.

scamalert

scamalert wrote: »

problem isnt having them, if one is put onto ventilator think chances are like 20-30 % at best of any sort recovery, since ventilators act only to provide some oxygen, but if body keeps shutting down its just buying empty time for those really, as current treatments seem hit and miss.

yes a ventilator isn't going to necessarily save a person.

it's just obviously such a heightened emotive subject around having to choose who would get access to one or not due to shortages

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30558-4/fulltext

Not only capable of causing pneumonia, COVID-19 may also cause damage to other organs such as the heart, the liver, and the kidneys, as well as to organ systems such as the blood and the immune system.3, 4, 5 Patients eventually die of multiple organ failure, shock, acute respiratory distress syndrome, heart failure, arrhythmias, and renal failure.5, 6 We should therefore pay attention to potential multi-organ injuries and the protection and prevention thereof in the treatment of COVID-19.

Wibbs

Alright wrote: »

I was surprised today when I went for a drive. I went expecting a ghost town but I was very wrong. Driving along the Clontarf seafront and onto Causeway Road the place was as full as any good summers day. Ireland has been asked to practice social distancing but as of yesterday the country was also given slightly contradictory messages that we can continue to spend time outdoors, by yourself or with your kids - walking or playing in open spaces are both safe as long as respectful social distancing and hand hygiene are maintained.

In other news A the mob are mostly blissfully stupid and/or over attached to what is normality and routine. It's a comfort blanket for many, if not most in the face of a possible threat. Doubly so with an invisible enemy they can neither see nor in most cases understand. I'd nearly be willing to bet the scenes like that are actually up rather than down compared to this time last year. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

I can certainly understand families with young kids feeling cooped in and pooped out from buying bogroll by the gross thinking let's go outside for some fresh air. That's very understandable. However anyone who drove to somewhere like that and didn't think "eh hang on, this is probably a risk to me and mine and others" and drove home(like an earlier poster who clearly has good sense did), is - and I make no exceptions nor apologies for thinking and saying it - a 100% 24Kt dribbling fucking imbecile. It would be bad enough if the virus took them out(though I'm morally debating the badness in my head), but the sadness is it is just as likely to kill non imbeciles, especially those in the frontlines in emergency and health services who will have to deal with their recklessness.

is_that_so

DubInMeath wrote: »

We've cancelled major public events.

They are still allowing half marathons etc

They have shut down sports - from tomorrow! Rugby being played this weekend as well.

ITman88

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Well straightaway, having a balanced rational debate over the pros and cons is unlikely since the 'stupid' Brits as you put it, are wrong in your eyes every which way they go. I'm saying there isn't a complete right way or wrong way of fighting this. But it has to be fought somehow. We're looking at economic ruin or at best, recession, in a few months, that's very likely. Lives matter, above all else, but getting the country back running also needs to be planned for.

Exactly. At 1st glance yes the Brits are taking a ridiculous approach.
But looking at the issue from a future point of view we don’t know which approach is right until next year.
Come next January we can look at Ireland vs England and see who made the right call

arybvtcw0eolkf

FTA69 wrote: »

The UK is asleep at the wheel. I work for a large UK union and they’re insisting on sending us to work in Heathrow regularly; one of my colleagues is already in isolation with a dry cough and shallow breathing. We’re in deep sh*t here I think.

Yeah, looking at the UK is like looking at a train wreak in slow motion, scary.

Best of luck.