CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

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Headshot wrote: »

I believe Community testing is coming in next week, anyone have any idea how that will work?

Probably on the same lines are is being done in Cork.
Gp will assess you over the phone and book you in.

TheCitizen

ITman88 wrote: »

My apologies if my post was vacuous and childish I did not mean for it to be interpreted that way and I’m sorry for any offence I caused you.
China may have shown the way you’re correct, my point is it’s early days as regards if China have beat this virus and we can reevaluate come Next year hopefully.
I didn’t mean to start a debate about which policy on Coronavirus is the right approach I just was trying to articulate that we don’t know which approach is best until some stage in the next few years and the Coronavirus is a thing of the past.

The we will look back and be able to evaluate which approach was best and how to best put policies in place for similar outbreaks in the future.

I may not have articulated this response very well and I hope I don’t offend anyone

We do know what the best approach is, that's the whole point. The Chinese have shown the way and most of the rest of the world accept that and are trying to copy what they did because it works.

The Brits appear to be the only ones with stupid ideas of their own. Get your head out of the sand and wake up.

spookwoman

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

40 new cases today, any idea where?

just the usual

The Health Protection Surveillance Centre has today been informed of 40 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland:

23 males, 17 females https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/#march-15
25 are associated with the east of the country
9 are associated with the west
6 are associated with the south

paul71

niallo27 wrote: »

Does not tell you this old lockdown is completely pointless. If we cant keep 1 isolated women safe then what is the point.

Lockdown will never stop spread of a virus, it is not even designed to that could only be achieved with complete isolation of every individual from everyone else over the maximum period of time from contraction to recovery. That is impossible. Lockdown can only slow the spread, hopefully to a level were health services have some hope of dealing with it.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/SiobhanDowling/status/1239114012614365186?s=20

CinemaGuy45

TheCitizen wrote: »

We do know what the best approach is, that's the whole point. The Chinese have shown the way and most of the rest of the world accept that and are trying to copy what they did because it works.

The Brits appear to be the only ones with stupid ideas of their own. Get your head out of the sand and wake up.

China run away from the Tiger and hide.

Boris soil your pants maybe the tiger will avoid the stink.

jam_mac_jam

paul71 wrote: »

Lockdown will never stop spread of a virus, it not even designed too that could only be achieved with complete isolation of every individual from everyone else over the maximum period of time from from contraction to recovery. That is impossible. Lockdown can only slow the spread, hopefully to a level were health services have some hope of dealing with it.

Exactly. It reduces risk not completely illuminates it.

I can't understand this attitude. Oh well if there is any risk we may as well do nothing at all.

robinph

dickdonk14 wrote: »

As an englishman living in ireland and looking at the british and irish approach to the covid 19. Im glad i live here. Its just a shame my old man ( 75 years old ) is stuck now with the possibility of isolation for months back in england.

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

fly_agaric

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

40 new cases today, any idea where?

Nevermind Oz, there's a Wicked Witch of Coronavirus for all points of the compass, N, S, E, W, NE...so best to be cautious and follow advice we are being given whereever you live.

JanuarySnowstor

The brits really are on their own here with little regard for proper measures other than disgracefully single out over 70s for isolation. Propped up of course by their right hand woman in NI

dan786

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

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ITman88 wrote: »

So what exactly are you suggesting?
This can’t be defeated?

Similar to SARS it could be done through interrupting all human-to-human transmission until the virus no longer has hosts and dies out on its own.

Problems are the mild symptoms while infectious and the apparent higher transmission rates for Coronavirus.

Very difficult to deprive the virus of a host because of this.

Any country that is cleared could be easily reinfected unless there are extreme controls.

There is no quick fix for this.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

It’s the little things. Saw this on a Washington Post article:



Here’s the article. Very interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?fbclid=IwAR1UfyiLppXqltFemBxwEy0szHRzuJ5NQaDo5SoQyGyLwE7hq5XTOQM9YR0

Funsterdelux

Naggdefy wrote: »

A few posters have been commenting that drink and St. Patrick's Day is a recent thing.. afraid not..

'Drowning the Shamrock on St. Patrick's Day is an age old custom, with origins to the Saint himself. ... The drowning of the shamrock takes place at the end of the celebrations on St. Patrick's Night , when shamrock is dunked into the last glass of whiskey then drunk during a toast to the saint.'

Were they distilling whiskey in the 6th century?

FutureGuy

Two limerick pubs just closed their doors. Well done.


At least one of them are letting in people via the back door.

Spanish Eyes

Glad to see the Healy Raes complying.

VinLieger

robinph wrote: »

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

Its a good thing but the idea that doing nothing else besides that will not ovewhelm the NHS is idiotic

blade1

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

froog

is there any good article on the very low death rates in china outside of epicentre? or is the thinking that those numbers are pure bull****.

ITman88

TheCitizen wrote: »

We do know what the best approach is, that's the whole point. The Chinese have shown the way and most of the rest of the world accept that and are trying to copy what they did because it works.

The Brits appear to be the only ones with stupid ideas of their own. Get your head out of the sand and wake up.

Ok I see your point I’m quiet open minded regarding this thing.

My point is, why exactly is the Chinese approach correct? Lots of people said earlier on the Chinese can’t be believed on numbers of infections, and even if they can, until they lift the restrictions, and then have no more cases of the virus, can we say that approach has worked.

This is a long road ahead, and we need a calm measured approach, and none of us can say which approach is best.

If Wuhan has eradicated this with the lockdown it’s fantastic news, and thats the approach to take now and for future pandemic’s. We won’t know until some time in the future has that approach worked.

Akrasia

sonofenoch wrote: »

Do these lockdowns work or just kick the can down the road? is this not going away readily?..........like any other pandemic strains of flu (it's what it is) the only combat is vaccine and build up of immunity, the latter you only get by it's spread not hiding behind closed doors ................the reality we have to face is that some people are going to die from it, it's tragic and not avoidable .............the Spanish flu killed 60m people and is now what we call a seasonal flu

We know some people are going to die, Some people have already died, lots of people have already died

The benefits of delaying infections as long as possible are
1. It spreads out the rate of infection reducing the stress on the health service
2. It gives the pharmaceutical industry time to test treatments and ramp up production of these treatments such as IL-6 inhibitors
3. It gives researchers time to understand which treatments work the best and what drugs to avoid (eg NSAIDS)

The UK's lack of action in spite of overwhelming evidence that action is required is appalling an it will cost a lot of people their lives needlessly

They're not even going to test care workers who show symptoms of the disease. This is incredibly short sighted and Will Cost Lives!

When Trump came to power I was always worried about how he would react to the first proper crisis he faces. So far he is failing miserably, and Johnson is emulating him in how incompetent his reaction to this crisis is.

owlbethere

This time last week, we saw very little from our government in relation to this virus. Within a week we've seen:

Parades cancelled
Schools, colleges, crèches closed
Social distancing guidelines
Pubs closed


I feel a little bit more confident in our government now that they've taken their heads out from the sand and acting on reducing the spread of this disease.

Unknown Soldier

EDit wrote: »

Massive overkill IMO. Someone is cycling on their own Down an empty street, so a couple of cops crowd around him thereby increasing the possibility of the virus spreading if they or he has it.

Lowest common denominator stuff. Best to just say "no", rather than "no....but"

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I'd say a lot will close over the next week or so with the country more or less in lockdown by the weekend. Bit by bit everything is about to shut! Extraordinary times and to think before this we would panic over a red alert storm for 24hours. Surreal is the new normal. The whole thing would have made a great film but I guess movie directors wouldn't have thought it believable!

I'm guessing we will all be told to stay at home from tomorrow afternoon onward. Being told while people are at work, gives those places a chance to shut down properly. Someone has to empty the fridges.

CinemaGuy45

blade1 wrote: »

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

No idea until confirmed assume it is rubbish.

saabsaab

Hopefully not too bleak a question but what is the burial/cremation capacity per month in Ireland? Anyone have an idea?

gmisk

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

The brits really are on their own here with little regard for proper measures other than disgracefully single out over 70s for isolation. Propped up of course by their right hand woman in NI

My folks are late 60s (ironically my mother still does clinics for the NHS despite being retired) and based in N Ireland, they are reasonably healthy thankfully.
People in the north seemingly a bit bemused about decision not to close schools, my sister is a teacher up there as well, some schools choosing to close of their own bat.

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Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »

Similar to SARS it could be done through interrupting all human-to-human transmission until the virus no longer has hosts and dies out on its own.

Problems are the mild symptoms while infectious and the apparent higher transmission rates for Coronavirus.

Very difficult to deprive the virus of a host because of this.

Any country that is cleared could be easily reinfected unless there are extreme controls.

There is no quick fix for this.

So what can be done then?

VinLieger

blade1 wrote: »

Can't keep up with posts here so not sure what's been posted already.
Hearing full lockdown will be announced at 11am tomorrow.
Rubbish or what?

Rubbish, there may be a lockdown coming, it may even happen tomorrow but that whatsapp message is fvcking steaming hot garbage

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Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

There’ll be no immunity? Flu isn’t the only thing people gain immunity to.

A vaccine is also likely to happen.

There is no known immunity.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html%3famp


https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

We have never managed to develop a vaccine for a coronavirus before. Scientists came close once, and a lot of people are working currently, but it's going to be a very very long time before one comes on the market, if it does at all.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

Professor Moriarty

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Yesterday, the French Health Minister said Coronavirus patients should not take anti-inflammatories as they diminish the immune system.