CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

odyssey06

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Was the alert from the French ministry of health fake news also?
France's health minister Olivier Véran warned the public on Saturday that anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen and cortisone could be an aggravating factor in coronavirus infections.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200314/coronavirus-french-health-minister-issues-warning-over-anti-flammatories

bilston

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

The brits really are on their own here with little regard for proper measures other than disgracefully single out over 70s for isolation. Propped up of course by their right hand woman in NI

Hang on...on the one hand they are accused in doing nothing, and then when they come up with a plan to actually protect the most vulnerable (not schoolkids) they get criticised.

Shn99

Supermacs offering all emergency service personell free meals/drinks in their restaurants to show appreciation for their hard work

GiveawayReborn

On a side note, The HSE trolley watch figures show only 18 people on trolley's today compared to over 350 last week and 179 this day last year. I see reports of ED departments being very quiet. Just show the abuse of the system previously and it has taken something as serious as COVID19(or the fear of COVID19) to change behaviour

Larbre34

threeball wrote: »

They'll have to open new graveyards for the holes they'll be digging. To jump from 20 deaths to 34 in one day is a dramatic jump for a country that has introduced precisely zero measures and are on the news asking companies to repurpose and build ventilators. Surely they should approach the appropriate companies instead of appealing to Fred in a shed.

This was discussed weeks ago.

For those of a religious faith that die, mass (as in collective, not Catholic) funerals will be held where rites will be administered. Either a tiny number or no mourners will be allowed attend. The remains will then be taken for collective cremation and no ashes will be returned to relatives.

Incidentally, this will affect anyone who dies from whatever cause during this crisis. Burials will effectively stop.

SeaBreezes

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, Seabreezes, you are the poster who said covid-19 was a combo of SARS and HIV. Any accusation you received of scaremongering because of that was well-deserved.

And satisfying? This isn’t a game. I’m one of the immunocompromised people. From my position, any kind of glee and points-scoring looks utterly pathetic. Because it is.

I linked to the medical articles in question, if you didn't bother to read them that's on you. It is This viruses HIV properties that makes it more infectious than the original SARS... It is SARS with HIV properties.. And we are still learning..

Gooey Looey

Bill Gates predicted this years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

citysights

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

Have you any link to that I’m not saying I don’t believe you but just had someone telling me the same.

dan786

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239278638295588864?s=20

dickdonk14

robinph wrote: »

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

I think its a bad thing. I tried to get him to live with us . But he said if hes going to die he wants to die in his own bed.

Shefwedfan

I personally think people should get fined for spreading bullsh**t on social media

Had some clown on the local community one today saying dogs can carry it and not to go near them

When pointed out this was incorrect and links to data he blankly refused and said he knew they could

These types of clowns need to be shut up because some people will believe

dan786

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239276993931247622?s=20

Atlantic Dawn

GiveawayReborn wrote: »

On a side note, The HSE trolley watch figures show only 18 people on trolley's today compared to over 350 last week and 179 this day last year. I see reports of ED departments being very quiet. Just show the abuse of the system previously and it has taken something as serious as COVID19(or the fear of COVID19) to change behaviour

Yes those with paper clip lacerations are now staying at home. Was wondering how the trolleys were coping, it was 600 odd waiting a couple weeks back.

caveat emptor

saabsaab wrote: »

Hopefully not too bleak a question but what is the burial/cremation capacity per month in Ireland? Anyone have an idea?

Bleak but good question. Most countries struggling with this aspect of the pandemic.

Bob24

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Yesterday, the French Health Minister said Coronavirus patients should not take anti-inflammatories as they diminish the immune system.

Yep - doctors at a hospital in France noticed an unusual count of young patients with a severe version of the illness. So the looked into it and found out all of them had been taking ibuprofen.

patnor1011

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

There’ll be no immunity? Flu isn’t the only thing people gain immunity to.

A vaccine is also likely to happen.

Yep. A vaccine to what? One strain? Two? This virus is mutating and there are 14 strains documented in USA alone. God knows how many in Italy. And nobody knows how many will be there next year.
It all seems to point out to simple survival of the fittest.

threeball

owlbethere wrote: »

This time last week, we saw very little from our government in relation to this virus. Within a week we've seen:

Parades cancelled
Schools, colleges, crèches closed
Social distancing guidelines
Pubs closed


I feel a little bit more confident in our government now that they've taken their heads out from the sand and acting on reducing the spread of this disease.

I don't think their heads were ever in the sand. The measures needed to be introduced at the appropriate time. I do however think that allowing flights unhindered is a mistake.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

There is no known immunity.

It’s a novel virus. Of course people didn’t have immunity to it. But that doesn’t that mean they won’t. It’s not yet clear whether reinfection is a thing. It’s far too soon to say. Some of the research articles coming out of China are sloppy to say the least. Unsurprisingly, as it’s hard to churn out research in only a matter of months.

One of the articles you linked there even acknowledges that antibodies against the virus were present.

ITman88

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

There is no known immunity.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html%3famp


https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

We have never managed to develop a vaccine for a coronavirus before. Scientists came close once, and a lot of people are working currently, but it's going to be a very very long time before one comes on the market, if it does at all.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwil7YD5oJ3oAhW2SRUIHd7CCdAQFjAGegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i&cshid=1584302052930

Well that’s bleak. If that’s the case what will a lockdown for 2 weeks achieve?

s7ryf3925pivug

citysights wrote: »

Have you any link to that I’m not saying I don’t believe you but just had someone telling me the same.

Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

TheValeyard

Do you this this virus is all over Africa, but they just don't have the resources to track or test for it? A lot of Chinese contractors based in African nations today.

Syncpolice

Shn99 wrote: »

Supermacs offering all emergency service personell free meals/drinks in their restaurants to show appreciation for their hard work

Must dig out.the old.garda fancy dress costume in the attic

robinph

robinph wrote: »

So is it a good thing or a bad thing to be telling over 70's to totally isolate from the potentially infected rest of the population?

it is a good thing if they fancy a better chance of being alive next year.

Humberto Salazar

bilston wrote: »

Hang on...on the one hand they are accused in doing nothing, and then when they come up with a plan to actually protect the most vulnerable (not schoolkids) they get criticised.

They're being criticized for being Brits, a common theme on the thread today.

greenfield21

dickdonk14 wrote: »

As an englishman living in ireland and looking at the british and irish approach to the covid 19. Im glad i live here. Its just a shame my old man ( 75 years old ) is stuck now with the possibility of isolation for months back in england.

What?? And he won't have to isolate living in Ireland??

easypazz

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes those with paper clip lacerations are now staying at home. Was wondering how the trolleys were coping, it was 600 odd waiting a couple weeks back.

The insurance fraudsters are taking a break too.

s7ryf3925pivug

ITman88 wrote: »

Well that’s bleak. If that’s the case what will a lockdown for 2 weeks achieve?

Fewer sick people at one time. Avoid overwhelming the health service. In Italy they are overwhelmed and they give minimal treatment to people over 65 or with preexisting conditions, as they don't have the capacity to treat everyone.

dougm1970

switzerland's number are getting really high.

has putin made any addresses or anything about russia's testing or how "well" they are doing ?

Thelonious Monk

glasso wrote: »

can't go for a walk/ cycle in Spain anymore

they are on real lockdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHONdSTVGnc

My mam hasn't been out of the house since Thursday, you are allowed cycle but only if you're going to shops or pharmacy so my dad has been doing that so far. It'll probably be the same here sooner or later.

CucaFace

dan786 wrote: »

The HSE says that a fake news circular is going around social media, citing an unnamed "specialist" at Cork University Hospital, advising people not to use non steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen & difene, and claiming that it exacerbates Covid-19.

It suggests physiotherapy as an alternative.

The HSE says it is untrue and has been refuted by infectious disease doctors in Ireland and the hospital also.

The HSE says the general consensus is that there is no data to support this contention at present.

I guess it came from here :



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection