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Creche charging for child's place during closure.

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    #632
    Dobbit
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Dobbit


    TM2015 wrote: »
    No idea what’s gonna happen with the after school. We have him down for 5 days but if the schools are doing alternate days, or whatever else they come up with, I don’t know how it’s all gonna work out.

    This is a concern for me too, we are also down for an afterschool and we haven't heard from them yet but I don't expect to since it's so unclear what will happen in September.


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    #633
    salmocab
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    Dobbit wrote: »
    This is a concern for me too, we are also down for an afterschool and we haven't heard from them yet but I don't expect to since it's so unclear what will happen in September.

    Currently over 6s have to social distance which is nonsense obviously so I think crèches are waiting for further information on this as this isn’t practical.
    Personally I think at this stage schools will be open as normal with just some extra rules regards hygiene etc, if that happens then crèches will be able to take those kids under similar rules.


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    #634
    cherryghost
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    Our kid is starting June 29th. No takeup for essential workers apparently.


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    #635
    rainbow kirby
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    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    I've a 4 year old starting School in Sept also, as well as a 2 year old - both in same crèche.

    On Monday 29 June when I drop them off they'll be lucky if I stop the car.

    Same gap here, 4 year old is starting school in September too. I'm in England, mine have been back at nursery since 1 June and tbh it's working out really well. They need the structure of routine, to see other kids and to be out of the house for a bit. They're sleeping better and behaving better in the two and a half weeks they have been back. I can't complain.


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    #636
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    Same gap here, 4 year old is starting school in September too. I'm in England, mine have been back at nursery since 1 June and tbh it's working out really well. They need the structure of routine, to see other kids and to be out of the house for a bit. They're sleeping better and behaving better in the two and a half weeks they have been back. I can't complain.

    My 4 year old is really missing the routine/structure of crèche - first few months were grand but now last month he's been acting up a lot. We're just struggling trying to balance work etc. so it's a real challenge and he's been getting his own way due to that. Cannot wait for 29 June...

    Once he's back 1-2 weeks I plan to take him out for day and spend some one-on-one time with him, can't do that at present with 2 year old sister and think he'll benefit a lot from it.


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    #637
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users Posts: 6,979 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Our two are back from the 29th. Initially on half days only until the 13th July to ease them back in then full days if needed. They have confirmed that the pro-rata amount due back for the days lost in March will be deducted from future bills. Im going to be WFH for the foreseeable anyway but getting them back into a proper routine and mixing with other kids will do them the power of good.


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    #638
    shesty
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    Our 4 year old is missing her preschool so much.It is such a hard age, they know enough to know things are very wrong but they are too small to really get it.They really need their friends and their routine.Ours will be back with her childminder in a couple of weeks.We got a text from the preschool saying they have changes to make to fall in line with new regulations, and want to keep us up to date.I am waiting to see what comes out of it all.


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    #639
    sphinxicus
    Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭sphinxicus


    Statutory Ape wrote: »
    They have confirmed that the pro-rata amount due back for the days lost in March will be deducted from future bills.

    That's good of your crèche to be acting fair like that. From the communication we have had from ours, that March payment is dust in the wind since they decided that they would pay their staff in full for all of March with said money.


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    #640
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    We just got our new procedures. Honestly it’s stark reading. I hope my child never gets sick while there, PPE, isolation room, 2m distance etc. I cannot understand how this is the kind of thing creche have to do (indoor shoes in creche only, no entry for parents, pods etc) and then the schools are being proposed to just open with classes of 30+


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    #641
    neris
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    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    We just got our new procedures. Honestly it’s stark reading. I hope my child never gets sick while there, PPE, isolation room, 2m distance etc. I cannot understand how this is the kind of thing creche have to do (indoor shoes in creche only, no entry for parents, pods etc) and then the schools are being proposed to just open with classes of 30+

    Because that gob****e Zappone and her bunch of idiots in the DCYA dont give a toss about the creches or children. Its all PR bluff & spin to make herself look good but in reality its going to be a nightmare for providers, children and parents. Good luck to any parent whos child is starting new in a creche in the next few weeks because it,ll be a handover at the door and see you later


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    #642
    neris
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    https://twitter.com/DCYAPress/status/1273638768117985281?s=20


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    #643
    DaveCliftonAP
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    sphinxicus wrote: »
    That's good of your crèche to be acting fair like that. From the communication we have had from ours, that March payment is dust in the wind since they decided that they would pay their staff in full for all of March with said money.

    Same as ours. A few weeks ago we asked to delay our child's return until September as my wife is temporarily laid off until then. Nope, they expect full fees from June 29th.


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    #644
    TheValeyard
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    Ours is opening for two hours a day.

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #645
    pc7
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    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Ours is opening for two hours a day.

    Is that to let kids settle back?


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    #646
    appledrop
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    We are back aswell on 29th June. Think we have gotten about 8 documents from creche at this stage.

    The amount of rules + regulations are unreal. It's mad the requirements been put on creche. Indoir shoes, no snacks from home etc. One of my friends asked me was I worried about him health wise going back? After reading the documents + all guidelines they have to follow Id say its safer than anywhere else!

    Our creche opening for half day, first week a bit more 2nd week all going well etc. Im happy with that as we all need to adjust. I'll probably get more work done anyway in that half day then I would in full day with him at home!

    Our creche has said there will be some reduction in fees for this period so we will see what that amounts to.


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    #647
    TheValeyard
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    pc7 wrote: »
    Is that to let kids settle back?

    It seems so

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #648
    Toastytoes
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Toastytoes


    We’ve been told if child has temperature of 38 degrees for any reason will be sent home for 14 days. Is this going to be standard in crèches does anyone know? At the rate they pick up bugs in crèche it looks like we can look forward to being at home a lot more even when the place opens. Thanks.


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    #649
    bluefinger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    Toastytoes wrote: »
    We’ve been told if child has temperature of 38 degrees for any reason will be sent home for 14 days. Is this going to be standard in crèches does anyone know? At the rate they pick up bugs in crèche it looks like we can look forward to being at home a lot more even when the place opens. Thanks.

    There will be a lot of parents looking for covid test if this becomes the norm.


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    #650
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    neris wrote: »
    Because that gob****e Zappone and her bunch of idiots in the DCYA dont give a toss about the creches or children. Its all PR bluff & spin to make herself look good but in reality its going to be a nightmare for providers, children and parents. Good luck to any parent whos child is starting new in a creche in the next few weeks because it,ll be a handover at the door and see you later

    Thankfully she will be heading off into the sunset once the coalition deal is confirmed. Pity she will take a ministerial and TD pension with her.


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    #651
    Toastytoes
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Toastytoes


    bluefinger wrote: »
    There will be a lot of parents looking for covid test if this becomes the norm.

    We might be looking for a new crèche if it transpires to be unique to ours. It’s excessive unless it is across the board and in the guidance from govt. Expecting to be paid full fees and sending kids home for 14 days at a time for just a temperature is a bit much. You wouldn’t even be referred for a covid test if you went to the doctor with just a fever.


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    #652
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,202 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    Thankfully she will be heading off into the sunset once the coalition deal is confirmed. Pity she will take a ministerial and TD pension with her.

    Never fear. You can attack her replacement with the same venom.


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    #653
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    spurious wrote: »
    Never fear. You can attack her replacement with the same venom.

    Venom? Seriously? Assuming her successor doesn’t land us with even more ‘bearded children’ I doubt I’ll have much of an issue with whoever it turns out to be.


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    #654
    fermanagh_man
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    Toastytoes wrote: »
    We’ve been told if child has temperature of 38 degrees for any reason will be sent home for 14 days. Is this going to be standard in crèches does anyone know? At the rate they pick up bugs in crèche it looks like we can look forward to being at home a lot more even when the place opens. Thanks.

    Our creche told us 24hrs for temp over 38


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    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Toastytoes wrote: »
    We’ve been told if child has temperature of 38 degrees for any reason will be sent home for 14 days. Is this going to be standard in crèches does anyone know? At the rate they pick up bugs in crèche it looks like we can look forward to being at home a lot more even when the place opens. Thanks.

    That’s absurd and complete overkill. Mine are not doing that.

    Sure kids will never be in creche at that rate.


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    #656
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Toastytoes wrote: »
    We’ve been told if child has temperature of 38 degrees for any reason will be sent home for 14 days. Is this going to be standard in crèches does anyone know? At the rate they pick up bugs in crèche it looks like we can look forward to being at home a lot more even when the place opens. Thanks.

    We’ve been told they have to be certified COVID free by a doctor? My lad would have had to be COVID rested 11 times last winter....


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    #657
    scarepanda
    Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    Both those requests are crazy. I'm not sure you'd get many kids willing to get tested more than once.


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    #658
    salmocab
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    The guidelines are 38 and over home for 24 hours.


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    #659
    cornflake1
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    scarepanda wrote: »
    Both those requests are crazy. I'm not sure you'd get many kids willing to get tested more than once.

    You might catch them unawares the first time but as I hear it is so unpleasant they won't be caught twice...


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    #660
    scarepanda
    Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭scarepanda


    cornflake1 wrote: »
    You might catch them unawares the first time but as I hear it is so unpleasant they won't be caught twice...

    ya exactly. I had the flu swab taken last year and it was horrible, felt like they were about to stick the swab up into my brain :eek: not a hope of you getting most kids to do it more than once, especially creche/preschool ages anyways.


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    #661
    shesty
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    They mjght well find that if they enforce that 14 day thing strongly they will have a lot of time where they have staff in, but no kids.....it may become economically unviable then to keep having staff in on days when numbers are low, and they have nothing to do.If they operate on tight margins, it might force them to change that.


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