CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

kevcos

Rjd2 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/iandonald_psych/status/1238518371651649538

Good thread there.

Its very risky what they are doing, but ignore social media scare mongering , this is Boris listening to the experts, if wrong, well best not to think about it.

The UKs approach may be seen as failing over the next few weeks, however in a years time what will the verdict be? Clearly no one can say with certainty.

is_that_so

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Oh yeah, the same calmer who one week ago applauded McConkey for saying 'go to the pub, go to the restaurants, enjoy yourselves'
The guy should shut up and play some music instead of wittering on about candles in windows.

I don't get Liveline but it serves a useful purpose for people, just like his show does.

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1239470814665289728?s=19

Is it possible for mods to ban these "lockdown" posts? This could be a useful thread if all the crap was filtered out.

Omackeral

namloc1980 wrote: »

11am you said wasn't it? Waiting here on tenterhooks!!

Revised it to 8am last night but sure I dunno what to believe anymore.

munsterlegend

walshb wrote: »

A lot more testing will be going ahead according to reports. Are we looking at high 40s today, maybe high 50s for positives today?

It would take time surely for the results to filter through? It wouldn’t be today anyway.

whisky_galore

kevcos wrote: »

The UKs approach may be seen as failing over the next few weeks, however in a years time what will the verdict be? Clearly no one can say with certainty.

It's an old fashioned exercise in Eugenics.

Great for the economy.

Gods Gift

Pacing Mule wrote: »

This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....


I’m going to explain Boris’s method for anybody who doesn’t quite get it I’m not saying if I agree with his plan or not but here goes

His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, illand at risk) let’s call this group A

Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

The general population generally healthy can be group C

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

With B and C though the cycle
A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

Hope this helps

Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

Stay safe and keep washing those hands

Please feel free to share folks

The winners of each group would then be drawn out of a bowl to play each other. Over the summer.

The winners will receive a cup.

#footballscominghome.

Boggles

I imagine we will be quietly withdrawing our legal case against the EU over the old 14 billion just resting in the account.

callaway92

weldoninhio wrote: »

Why is Cheltenham being singled out??

There are 70,000 people a day at Cheltenham, an outdoor event.

There are around 70,000 people an hour on the tube, an enclosed area.

Why aren't tourists who visited London getting shit???

Ummm, because Cheltenham was completely avoidable.

Beasty

sideswipe wrote: »

The winner of the Bath Half Marathon was Paul Pollock, an Irish Doctor and elite runner. You'd think he'd have more sense :mad:

Not sure why you think someone who is "Irish" is in some way different than someone who is "British". We have more in common than separates us. This whole thing has escalated massively since Thursday morning over here. The same thing may happen later this week in the UK (and there were signs of a significant shift with the proposed recommendations for over-70s yesterday) - whether people believe it or not, it is being taken very seriously in the UK. People may think the handling of it at Government level has been less than ideal, but a glance over all of the threads here show many people have a similar view to the way the Irish government have handled the situation

Only time will tell though, but in the meantime I think that doctor took best advice and I understand he ensured he was at least 2 meters ahead of the field throughout:pac:

Omackeral

weldoninhio wrote: »

One who doesn't think the sky is falling down. FFS. What is the difference between a half empty pub, with the seats spaced out by a metre or so and the full bus I was on this morning, with people sitting right beside me and right in front and behind me??

One is necessary. One isn’t.

walshb

munsterlegend wrote: »

It would take time surely for the results to filter through? It wouldn’t be today anyway.

I mean at 6 p.m.

Can we expect 50+ positive tests for Covid...

GooglePlus

First day working from home today and can already see that this will not be sustainable for either me or the company.

is_that_so

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1239470814665289728?s=19

I reckon that message of looking after your mental health needs to be front and centre now more than ever.

callaway92

walshb wrote: »

A lot more testing will be going ahead according to reports. Are we looking at high 40s today, maybe high 50s for positives today?

Why are you speculating on numbers like it’s some fun thing to do you oddball - same from you yesterday too

Widdensushi

walshb wrote: »

I mean at 6 p.m.

Can we expect 50+ positive tests for Covid...

that would mean it was leveling out, doubling every three days was the trend ?

tom1ie

weldoninhio wrote: »

One who doesn't think the sky is falling down. FFS. What is the difference between a half empty pub, with the seats spaced out by a metre or so and the full bus I was on this morning, with people sitting right beside me and right in front and behind me??

There is no difference.
You can catch the virus on the bus as much as in the pub, but that’s not the point as much you know.
You were on the bus I presume to go to work which you are obliged to do.
You were in the pub for your own selfish reasons.
Both scenarios mean you could get the virus, one reason is valid, the other is just you being selfish.

Xertz

GooglePlus wrote: »

First day working from home today and can already see that this will not be sustainable for either me or the company.

Give it a while though - takes time to get things to work.

Syncpolice

callaway92 wrote: »

Why are you speculating on numbers like it’s some fun thing to do you oddball - same from you yesterday too

He was looking.for posters to guess the count yesterday

Bob24

NSAman wrote: »

Talking to neighbours they say it is ridiculous that everything is closing, where are we going to eat?

Is that the general feeling of the man on the street there?

I know health is the number one worry at the moment. But If that is the situation in the US, the cynical person in me things it is not too late to short the S&P500 and make some money. If the realisation if what’s coming still hasn’t hit the population, we are still lined up for more sell-offs.

walshb

callaway92 wrote: »

Why are you speculating on numbers like it’s some fun thing to do you oddball - same from you yesterday too

Just concerned

Are we not allowed be concerned, interested on how more will be infected...

We have to be oddballs to be?:rolleyes:

Xertz

tom1ie wrote: »

There is no difference.
You can catch the virus on the bus as much as in the pub, but that’s not the point as much you know.
You were on the bus I presume to go to work which you are obliged to do.
You were in the pub for your own selfish reasons.
Both scenarios mean you could get the virus, one reason is valid, the other is just you being selfish.

You're rarely drunk, singing, with low inhibitions going around hugging people on the bus. Whereas in the pub, that's pretty normal.

jackboy

pjohnson wrote: »

The fact you cant distinguish between the need to work and the want of a pint.

As I said before, the virus can’t distinguish. By all means leave public transport open for the economy, but this spreads the virus and kills every bit as much as drinking in a pub.

Maxpfizer

Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »

Anyone who travelled while this was unfolding deserves to be left there.

Compassion only extends so far, I see.

So they've just to be homeless or go to a shelter or something for the duration?
Or would we consider the circumstances of each case?

Anyone who traveled when this was unfolding did so because they thought it would be OK.

Their punishment should just be "stay there then"? Even for families with kids etc?

The problem with "stop the spread at any cost" is that "any cost" part.
Leaving people stranded far from home is a cost we shouldn't really be willing to pay.

It's a lose-lose situation so let's not pretend that leaving people stranded because we don't want them back here isn't equally self-centered.

Bring them back, test them at the airport or tell them to self-isolate.

"They deserve to be left there." Nice. Real nice.

SeaBreezes

Pacing Mule wrote: »

This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....


I’m going to explain Boris’s method for anybody who doesn’t quite get it I’m not saying if I agree with his plan or not but here goes

His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, illand at risk) let’s call this group A

Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

The general population generally healthy can be group C

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

With B and C though the cycle
A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

Hope this helps

Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

Stay safe and keep washing those hands

Please feel free to share folks

There you are Dominic!! Was wondering where you went..


So I guess we are assuming people in groups A and B have no kids, or live/love with people from group C, right?

And, your are essentially describing a lockdown, which is what the EU are doing. People still go to work, they just cant socialise in pubs and large entertainment gatherings.

Something too hard for people in group C to do in the UK apparently..

solidasarock

Hey lads. Its past 8am.

Is the army marching on the streets dragging people back indoors yet?

Jin luk

namloc1980 wrote: »

11am you said wasn't it? Waiting here on tenterhooks!!

Nope 11am was the post on fb my missus was told by management their would be an annoucment regarding customer numbers and opening hours also state services enforcing it at 8am a poster whos othee half works in tesco was also told the same.

Beasty

twomonkeys wrote: »

It’s the average age of the population of the country.

It states median though. That is very different from the mean (weighted) age

The median age is basically half of expected lifespan. There are in most cases a hell of a lot more below the median than above it when it comes to age

wadacrack

walshb wrote: »

I mean at 6 p.m.

Can we expect 50+ positive tests for Covid...

I expect 100, don't see how we have done much better than Italy in containment tbh. The low numbers atm due to a lack of testing. 3% of test have been positive so that would be a worry. An 85 year-old woman tested positive despite only being in contact with 5 family members.

amadangomor

Boggles wrote: »

I imagine we will be quietly withdrawing our legal case against the EU over the old 14 billion just resting in the account.

Pity only 2 or 3 billion of this would be due to us in any case

namloc1980

Jin luk wrote: »

Nope 11am was the post on fb my missus was told by management their would be an annoucment regarding customer numbers and opening hours also state services enforcing it at 8am a poster whos othee half works in tesco was also told the same.

And that didn't happen.

Someone I know has been trying since Thursday to get tested and the latest is he "should" get a test by Wednesday. Who knows where the figures are really at.

Tony EH

weldoninhio wrote: »

One who doesn't think the sky is falling down. FFS. What is the difference between a half empty pub, with the seats spaced out by a metre or so and the full bus I was on this morning, with people sitting right beside me and right in front and behind me??

Breath can travel more than a metre. It also lands on surfaces and water droplets can last for some time. Like the flu, this virus is carried primarily on the the breath and you shouldn't be in the vicinity of an infected person for more than 15 minutes.

Spacing isn't really going to work in something like a pub, where people are constantly yapping.

Funsterdelux

Gods Gift wrote: »

The winners of each group would then be drawn out of a bowl to play each other. Over the summer.

The winners will receive a cup.

#footballscominghome.

Group A, group of death

Axfrderr

Just something to reasure people with pets.
I just rang my local vet and he confirmed emergency services will continue as normal for small animals.

kevcos

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's an old fashioned exercise in Eugenics.

Great for the economy.

A Eugenics exercise would require has a targeted demographic.
Who is, (presumably you are referring to the British Government) specifically targeting to sacrifice in this exercise?

walshb

wadacrack wrote: »

I expect 100, don't see how we have done much better than Italy in containment tbh. The low numbers atm due to a lack of testing. 3% of test have been positive so that would be a worry. An 85 year-old woman tested positive despite only being in contact with 5 family members.

Thanks. I better refrain from any more numbers speculation. Don't want to be seen as an oddball.......

UrbanFret

Jin luk wrote: »

Nope 11am was the post on fb my missus was told by management their would be an annoucment regarding customer numbers and opening hours also state services enforcing it at 8am a poster whos othee half works in tesco was also told the same.

Have we recruited a couple of hundred thousand military overnight? Tell me how logistically this could work if it were true.

dundalkfc10

DSP in Dundalk not letting public inside. This is going to get messy. The ques are as long as ive seen in a long time, handing out forms asking people post them in

NSAman

Bob24 wrote: »

Is that the general feeling of the man on the street there?

I know health is the number one worry at the moment. But If that is the situation in the US, the cynical person in me things it is not too late to short the S&P500 and make some money. If the realisation if what’s coming still hasn’t hit the population, we are still lined up for more sell-offs.

Not everyone, this weekend was a massive wake-up call for many people. Yet I see people saying this is ridiculous and over-hyping the situation.

Until this weekend, very few people had actually thought about their living situations here.

whisky_galore

kevcos wrote: »

A Eugenics exercise would require has a targeted demographic.
Who is, (presumably you are referring to the British Government) specifically targeting to sacrifice in this exercise?

Use your imagination.

tom1ie

Xertz wrote: »

You're rarely drunk, singing, with low inhibitions going around hugging people on the bus. Whereas in the pub, that's pretty normal.

Yes, but remember you don’t have to touch people either. As people become infected they expel the virus through breathing.
There are reports of people being infected within a 5m radius in China.

Jin luk

namloc1980 wrote: »

And that didn't happen.

All our women are lying to us!!!

is_that_so

Jin luk wrote: »

Nope 11am was the post on fb my missus was told by management their would be an annoucment regarding customer numbers and opening hours also state services enforcing it at 8am a poster whos othee half works in tesco was also told the same.

This is what some stores are doing the the UK where they are staggering entry, more to allow those who can't fight with gen pop for toilet rolls and pasta, a time to shop.

Omackeral

Jin luk wrote: »

All our women are lying to us!!!

Or else they’re just regurgitating misinformation and it’s being passed on and around purple monkey dishwasher.

callaway92

walshb wrote: »

Just concerned

Are we not allowed be concerned, interested on how more will be infected...

We have to be oddballs to be?:rolleyes:

It’s so so weird

martingriff

Beasty wrote: »

Not sure why you think someone who is "Irish" is in some way different than someone who is "British". We have more in common than separates us. This whole thing has escalated massively since Thursday morning over here. The same thing may happen later this week in the UK (and there were signs of a significant shift with the proposed recommendations for over-70s yesterday) - whether people believe it or not, it is being taken very seriously in the UK. People may think the handling of it at Government level has been less than ideal, but a glance over all of the threads here show many people have a similar view to the way the Irish government have handled the situation

Only time will tell though, but in the meantime I think that doctor took best advice and I understand he ensured he was at least 2 meters ahead of the field throughout:pac:

Also if he is a doctor here in Ireland (just because he is an Irish doctor does not mean her works here) he will undergo isolation for 2 weeks he may have had those 2 weeks also booked off

kevcos

whisky_galore wrote: »

Use your imagination.

Well I dont imagine they are trageting anyone.

This is your opinion so what dont you tell me?

Rob A. Bank

kevcos wrote: »

A Eugenics exercise would require has a targeted demographic.
Who is, (presumably you are referring to the British Government) specifically targeting to sacrifice in this exercise?

Nermal

Funsterdelux wrote: »

I see no flaws in this plan whatsoever

And our plan? Complete lockdown until what, exactly? Until a vaccine is available at an unspecified future date? Until we have no cases, and then start all over again when new ones appear?

The UK plan has an end date and won’t lead to a deflationary spiral. That alone makes it better than ours.