CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

Bit cynical

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Good afternoon! I am getting tested this afternoon. Feel like absolute crap.

Good luck. Hope it turns out negative.

Inquitus

dan786 wrote: »

UK cases

As of 9am on 16 March 2020, 44,105 people have been tested in the UK, of which 42,562 were confirmed negative and 1,543 were confirmed as positive the government says.

My friend is a consultant geriatrics doctor in the NHS, she has a fever and has been told to self isolate, they will not test her though.

elperello

youtube! wrote: »

Hey I am not sure if I should just stay home or go to work, I work construction . I have been told it is my choice but as self employed I really dont know if I will even get paid next month. Anyway my big worry is the toilets they are a disgrace , basically 6 cubicles in a 20 ft container which rarely get cleaned, like it is disgusting so I generally will just go to the loo in the pub if I am badly stuck, of course they are all closed now so... my gut feeling is telling me to stay at home for a while and not risk it but I dunno what the right thing to do is.

Get on to boss tell him if he doesn't hire someone to keep the toilets clean and supply sanitiser you won't go in.

If they want the work done the cost involved in cleaning the toilets will be less than missing deadlines.

Fr_Dougal

weldoninhio wrote: »

Friend in Dublin from England has just put up on Facebook that her and her nephew have found a pub that's open. Obviously not going to put the name or location on here, but seems not everyone is doing what they were asked.

Is it a stand-alone pub or is it part of a hotel?

Stevieluvsye

Bit cynical wrote: »

Good luck. Hope it turns out negative.

I now know i was in touch with someone who went skiiing in Italy who has a confirmed case! Fcuking scared as i have asthma. Can barely breath and am dizzy as ****

Hobgoblin11

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Good afternoon! I am getting tested this afternoon. Feel like absolute crap.

stay positive!

caveat emptor

Nermal wrote: »

People will not accept economic devastation without an end in sight when there is an alternative.

I'm absolutely willing to do my part. I'm nearly 40, I'm not at high risk, but not zero risk either.

Relax the lockdown for those of us who are low risk. Let us be the barrier to infection in the elderly.

Not how pandemics work.

I suggest you read a book, previous threads, epidemiological studies etc.

I know some people have lost their jobs. It's the governments job to protect the most vulnerable in society which now includes those people. They've introduced the rules for a reason. The economy will take a massive hit either way.
This is a war.

If you sign a disclaimer on behalf of all of your contacts and their contacts etc to not put a burden on our fragile health system then I wouldn't mind relaxing the "lockdown" which isn't nearly harsh enough. You wouldn't do that would you?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/27/bill-gates-in-2018-world-needs-to-prepare-for-pandemics-just-like-war.html

Martina1991

john_doe. wrote:

Anyone else spouse healthcare workers and on front line of this now? Going out of mind with worry

I think a lot of worry comes down to fear of the unknown. Looking to Italy, Spain and the UK we're trying to guess how we'd cope. Social media being a vector for a lot of fear.

Its like seeing a tidal wave in the distance and waiting for it to hit you.

All we can do is prepare. I think the government and HSE are doing a good job so far. A total lockdown overnight would cause more panic. Small changes give people a chance to adjust their lives. Assuming people do as they're told.

All hospitals are doing everything they can to prepare. This goes beyond what you hear in the news, and its not just the front line.

All services are being cut back to emergencies only. Wards are being transformed, more beds being allocated, equipment being sourced.
The cleaners, plumbers, electricians, carpenters and more working over the weekends to prepare.

Personally my level of worry only goes up when i read this thread.

bekker

dan786 wrote: »

UK cases

As of 9am on 16 March 2020, 44,105 people have been tested in the UK, of which 42,562 were confirmed negative and 1,543 were confirmed as positive the government says.

No such category possible as 'Confirmed Negative' for swab samples for COVID-19, only 'Positive' or 'Not Positive'.

From date of infection, majority testing positive will take at least 14 days to start showing not positive again, very small % of case still showing positive 35 days after date of infection.

Info. available from multiple medical sources

Similar confusion to test results as Cervical screening test, absence of evidence is no evidence of absence.

wakka12

The reason cases in Iceland appear high relative to their tiny population is because it is screening the general population, 1000 tests per day. One of the only countries in the world to be doing this.
So far 1% of tests are coming back positive, would imply at the very least 1% of mainland Europeans are also infected with coronavirus
https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2020/03/16/first_decode_covid_19_findings_are_in/

spookwoman

Files updated Europe sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VnTtGtEGyzDr1sAdoFieLpUeUUP0mbzryebHGUbISj4/edit?usp=sharing


Top Countries may have to be changed about tomorrow after todays
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu5mIBHYoW1cYgb5JvvjyfLoyKHBG2T8ZRvTK7o80L0/edit?usp=sharing

murpho999

BigMo1 wrote: »

Would it be a good idea for anyone who goes outside to wear a mask? Seems to have had a positive effect in other regions and may halt the spread here.

No as the masks that people are wearing are often poor quality and don't really stop the virus.
There are numerous articles and videos showing how masks are basically ineffective and not needed.
Also it will only help with stopping carriers spreading it. If you don't have the virus then they don't do anything.


Social distancing and contact are the key battles.

weldoninhio

Ger Roe wrote: »

Don't name it here, send a message to Simon Harris or De Taoish.

I’m not a rat. Also why message them, they aren’t doing anything illegal.

elperello

caveat emptor wrote: »

Social responsibility. That is not part of the system. We have government to regulate. We can't on the one hand high five each other as our house prices go up during a housing crisis and then on the other moan if someone has bought all the hand sanitizer.

Personally don't mind either way but thems the rules.

Well personally I'd still prefer to see a bit of social responsibility at a time like this.

Maybe it's too much to ask though.

Big difference in the price of houses and hand sanitiser.

ThePopehimself

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Good afternoon! I am getting tested this afternoon. Feel like absolute crap.

Do you live alone?

Wishing you well.

VinLieger

weldoninhio wrote: »

Friend in Dublin from England has just put up on Facebook that her and her nephew have found a pub that's open. Obviously not going to put the name or location on here, but seems not everyone is doing what they were asked.

You absolutely should name and shame, if there had been no video the temple bar would still be open today along with who knows how many others, its the only thing these selfish ignorant parasites understand, negative attention

YFlyer

So are all pubs closed?

Thewife

I have seen many people say this over the last while . I have also seen people say that the health officials are putting out the message that there’s no point I masks so as people won’t bulk buy them as frontline staff need them .
Normally I would never believe conspiracy type things but this did make me wonder as to the truth that masks are useless , if they are useless to prevent you picking up the virus then why are health staff wearing them and changing them each time they see a different patient ? Is it a case that wearing them won’t protect them but might lower the risk as opposed to if they wore no masks at all ??
Genuinely would love to know the answer to this.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which mask are you referring to? A bog standard lightweight mouth/nose mask is of little to no medical value unless you have symptoms (in which case you should be at home anyway). The virus enters the eyes and will get around the pretty flimsy masks most people are wearing as they do not contour around the face tightly enough and they have no actual filter effect

Gloves are a help. Buy three/four pairs of light ones and use them in rotation, wash and dry them and do not wipe your mouth nose and eye areas while wearing them cos that defeats the purpose!

murpho999

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Man, the symptons are fcuking horrendous if i do have it. Flu *10 (I know it's not a flu)

Stay calm. It's most likely the person you met is not a carrier. Numbers are on your side.

Ficheall

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Another side effect which is less obvious until it becomes obvious.

The Guardian wrote:

Consumers have been warned of the dangers of substituting kitchen roll and wet wipes for toilet paper which – if flushed down the loo – could overwhelm the UK’s sewers.

Innocent consumer substitutions due to shortages caused by fears about the spread of coronovirus could create serious consequences which are critical to society and life, according to leading supply chain academic Prof Richard Wilding.

The warning comes amid panic buying sweeping UK supermarkets, which has resulted in some people trying to make a massive profit by selling toilet roll and hand sanitiser online.

Helpful tip: Using baby lotion during your absterging makes your toilet paper go further.

Bit cynical

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I now know i was in touch with someone who went skiiing in Italy who has a confirmed case! Fcuking scared as i have asthma. Can barely breath and am dizzy as ****

I am sorry to hear that. The important thing is not to exert yourself and stay calm.

Downlinz

YFlyer wrote: »

So are all pubs closed?

They're supposed to be

ThePopehimself

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Man, the symptons are fcuking horrendous if i do have it. Flu *10 (I know it's not a flu)

Could you describe it? No worries if not, You are clearly feeling very unwell.

antodeco

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I now know i was in touch with someone who went skiiing in Italy who has a confirmed case! Fcuking scared as i have asthma. Can barely breath and am dizzy as ****

Anxiety etc won't help how you are feeling. You need to ask yourself, if Covid19 didn't exist, how would you be feeling about how you feel right now?

Cork Boy 53

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Good afternoon! I am getting tested this afternoon. Feel like absolute crap.

Best of luck with it. I am expecting one in the next few days as well. Do you know if the test happens in your own home or in the tester`s vehicle?

Stevieluvsye

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Do you live alone?

Wishing you well.

Wife. She is really lethargic and she is one of the most healthy people i know!

PS

It cost me 30EUR for a phone consultation as you cannot go near your GP

murpho999

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’m not a rat. Also why message them, they aren’t doing anything illegal.

You're not being a rat but doing a public service.

Why is doing the right thing wrong if it benefits public health.

It may not be illegal yet but it's morally the right thing to do.

Cupatae

antodeco wrote: »

Anxiety etc won't help how you are feeling. You need to ask yourself, if Covid19 didn't exist, how would you be feeling about how you feel right now?

what are you even on about :D

jimwallace197

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Good afternoon! I am getting tested this afternoon. Feel like absolute crap.

Best of luck Stevie, we are all in this together. One step at a time, let us know how you get on

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1239383795205169152

Harry Palmr

Ficheall wrote: »

Helpful tip: Using baby lotion during your absterging makes your toilet paper go further.

I offer my most enthusiastic contrafibularities on your use of absterging

joe40

So what is the best case scenario in all this 12 months from now. If it turns out to have a mortality rate of 1% presumably that would be good.
What about an eventual infection rate of 20% I presume that to would be good . Don't know.
Population of Ireland say 5000,000. So 1000,000 get the infection 10,000 deaths.
Would anyone with expertise take those figures as good case scenario or still worst case scenario.
According to cso about 30,000 people die in Ireland every year an extra 10,000 would be significant.
Without been fatalistic is there any reasonable way to avoid this.

wakka12

https://www.bbc.com/turkce/haberler-dunya-51911013?at_medium=custom7&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_campaign=64&at_custom3=BBC+Turkey&at_custom4=EC07F944-6789-11EA-87AB-33A096E8478F&at_custom2=facebook_page
To the surprise of nobody..cases in Turkey thought to be higher than officially counted

weldoninhio

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Is it a stand-alone pub or is it part of a hotel?

Stand alone.

Shn99

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

Stevieluvsye

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Could you describe it? No worries if not, You are clearly feeling very unwell.

Dizzy, short of breath. No sense of smell, no appetite, sweats you name it! Fcuking dreadful

Gynoid

dublin99 wrote: »

I make my own:

2 parts 70% Isopropyl Alcohol
1 part Aloe Vera Gel (Mine also has tea tree oil, leftover from use as after-sun in summer)
Few drops essential oil for fragrance.

I use a recycled/sterilised hand wash bottle with pump. Voila!

Try finding 70% Isopropyl alcohol now. I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and it was dispatched. And then never arrived. All I heard yesterday was we have refunded your 10 euros. I guess they managed to sell it to someone else for much more. And now it is quite difficult to get. I ordered more but I am not holding my breath.

A different point - enervation. Living in a state of Qui Vive. Not good. Do not let yourself go up and down and become enervated, stoicism is your friend now. It may be a long haul. In fact it will be a long haul, looks like. Whether one gets sick or not. It is worrying for everyone. Be the guy in the poncho, not the green guy. It is best in the long run.

Cupatae

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1239383795205169152

by the sounds of it arnie is on the whiskey :pac::D

CtrlAltDlt

Hi all,

I'm genuinely concerned that the people I'm working with are not taking this seriously. The two people I live with (mam and uncle) are both in the high risk categories so I've finally got them to hunker down and stay home. I've nominated myself to collect their payments from the PO and pick up their prescriptions, shopping and such. I'm still working and as of now with full wages but that could all change in a second depending on what happens in the next few days. I currently have a load taken out with the bank and I'm terrified of going into arrears if I'm put onto a jobseekers payment. I went to the bank today to try and get some answers but what the girl at the desk told me and what the man in the call center told me are two different things. I came back to the office, genuinely worried and fretting about it and my co-workers basically all took the p at me panicking. They don't seem to get why I'm so stressed out by all of this. Feckers are calling me a doom merchant

Stevieluvsye

Shn99 wrote: »

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

It's not. Trust me! Nobody can get tested over there. My sister lives in Herts

DOCARCH

Shn99 wrote: »

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

Looks positive, but it's down to a change in testing policy....testing less!

circadian

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Man, the symptons are fcuking horrendous if i do have it. Flu *10 (I know it's not a flu)

Anyone that's been interviewed has said this, basically similar symptoms to the flu but very intense and the pain is unreal.

trapp

Nermal wrote: »

People will not accept economic devastation without an end in sight when there is an alternative.

I'm absolutely willing to do my part. I'm nearly 40, I'm not at high risk, but not zero risk either.

Relax the lockdown for those of us who are low risk. Let us be the barrier to infection in the elderly.

Eventually they will have to.

not now, but eventually.

For now hopefully we can avoid figures such as those in Italy.

FutureGuy

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’m not a rat. Also why message them, they aren’t doing anything illegal.

Goodness. If I see a pub open today they will be named and shamed for sure.

Cork Boy 53

Shn99 wrote: »

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

How many are being tested though?

wakka12

Shn99 wrote: »

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

I believe testing has become more restrictive recently

Quantum Erasure

weldoninhio wrote: »

Stand alone.

at least two meters apart

YFlyer

Downlinz wrote: »

They're supposed to be

Thanks.

I'm concerned if any are still open. Particularly in Limerick city.

Shn99

DOCARCH wrote: »

Looks positive, but it's down to a change in testing policy....testing less!

Are they only testing people now with severe symptoms?

joe_99

Shn99 wrote: »

171 new cases in the UK today, 2nd day the daily total of new confirmed cases has dropped. Positive news..

They are not testing widely. Only in hospitals. It's a sham number.