CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

brianregan09

Hopefully some people will take away from this situation is not to believe social media the amount of bull**** scaremongering and absolute ignorance going around on Twitter,Facebook etc there's little wonder people are panic buying and doing stupid ****

Had someone argue with me on facebook that there was over a thousand people in dunnes last night and I in there myself and it was dead in there

joe40

rossie1977 wrote: »

Considering 3,000 have died in China which has 27 times Irelands population 10k dead would result in health system collapsing in this country and complete panic among the population

I agree but I just wonder what do authorities HSE, WHO etc consider the realistic best case scenario for infection rates over the next 12 months.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1239566465860276224?s=20

skimpydoo

statesaver wrote: »

Any idea why ?

Herd mentality.

Funkfield

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

i too would like to know the location of this establishment, ...

There is absolutely no reason why they won't name it, yet...here we are.

Possibly bull$h1t, possibly just trying to get a reaction.

Its difficult to understand

rossie1977

Bambi wrote: »

Well at least this is promising, if true of course:



https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australian-researchers-within-reach-of-coronavirus-cure-c-746655

They haven't even begun clinical trials on humans. Looking at minimum 18 months to 2 years before that would be available publicly

You read a dozen of these claims daily.

Nearly 20 years on we have no cure for SARS which should tell you everything

SuperTortoise

Bambi wrote: »

Well at least this is promising, if true of course:



https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australian-researchers-within-reach-of-coronavirus-cure-c-746655

Johnson&Johnson have apparently said there is no evidence that those treatments work, i also find it odd they are looking for funding for clinical trials, i mean, it they were that close you'd think funding would'nt be a problem?


Hope i'm wrong on that BTW.

Wibbs

wakka12 wrote: »

Are there any theories as to why this is hitting developed countries so much harder? Even in Asia it is the most develoeped countries that seem to be taking the hardest hit Singpoare,Japan, korea, China and less so in Indonesia and the south east

Travel more internationally? Older populations?

I'd reckon more mask wearing, less obesity and diabetes(though more smokers) and faster reactions to threats from authorities, with less reticence to shut things down and more social compliance with orders from authority and community.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which mask are you referring to? A bog standard lightweight mouth/nose mask is of little to no medical value unless you have symptoms (in which case you should be at home anyway). The virus enters the eyes and will get around the pretty flimsy masks most people are wearing as they do not contour around the face tightly enough and they have no actual filter effect

While I mostly agree with the paper mask efficacy actually the eye route is still highly debatable. This study into SARS and Covid19 found the likelihood low. Though they advised eye protection for healthcare workers as a precaution.

I mostly agree regarding the usefulness of masks though I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that if everyone was wearing even the flimsy paper type transmission would go down. Problem is we don't have enough to go around and health workers need them more. If a majority were wearing the proper half face with pp3 filter respirators I have no doubt transmission would go down. But that would cost a fortune to dole out to the population, especially now. I got mine ages ago way before Covid and it cost under 20 quid, now **** on ebay and amazon are looking nigh on a hundred quid each and more for the same model.

ShayNanigan

In unrelated news... St. Patrick seen in Temple Bar a few minutes ago

https://pasteboard.co/IZn9Irx.png

joe_99

rossie1977 wrote: »

Considering 3,000 have died in China which has 27 times Irelands population 10k dead would result in health system collapsing in this country and complete panic among the population

270 times not 27

Hobgoblin11

lawred2 wrote: »

huh?

just saying , it must be difficult being in a place with others who you can't get away from, of course they are crims but it must be extra difficult nowadays

ThePopehimself

wakka12 wrote: »

The youngest European victim in the pandemic so far..a 21 year old cancer patient in Spain has sadly passed away.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/francisco-garcia-death-coronavirus-malaga-spain-football-coach-leukaemia-a9404566.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Godluvus, that's sad

Stevieluvsye

Widdensushi wrote: »

he is winding people up about something that is no joking matter, he has a history of it

Are you referring to me?

Gooey Looey

expectationlost wrote: »

good explanation of why you delay the shutdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8

It's nonsense an flawed because when you try to stop the spread by shutting things down the health service will already be overwhelmed

DisneyLover

Feeling like absolute ****e. Lots of misinformation. GP telling me one thing and consultant telling me another.

Have all the symptoms bar the sweating (yet) temp is up but not reached 39 yet. Work in ortho so they're sending me a swab within 48 hours from an hour ago.

Short of breath since last night had asthma as a child and haven't experienced that since it's awful feels like someone is sitting on my chest. Awful stomach and back pain

Edit : forgot to mention I was in London 4th-10th March and cause of my job I've to be swabbed.

rossie1977

joe40 wrote: »

I agree but I just wonder what do authorities HSE, WHO etc consider the realistic best case scenario for infection rates over the next 12 months.

The HSE said 200 cases a week they can cope.

500 cases a week over couple of weeks and months and you are looking at complete breakdown of health service in this country.

Ten of Swords

Mod

A reminder to all, no medical advice. This is a sitewide rule

DisneyLover

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Don`t think too many care that much about the weather now.

It's a great thing. Means way more beds available in hospitals!

Loughc

https://twitter.com/jeremydixondj/status/1239534733849214976?s=21

05eaftqbrs9jlh

nacho libre wrote: »

I really feel for people looking after a loved one during this crisis. A friend of mine can't visit his dad in hospital at the moment, and he is petrified of his father catching the virus. I can relate because my father lost his life before all this started, if he were still around i would be in bits if on top of everything he was going through he had to worry about this virus and wondering if his home help woulld be able to come and visit him. It really is a terrible time for some people right now.

Found out today that my nephew's surgery I mentioned on the first page is apparently going ahead, as of this point. I hope it's because it's a serious operation, and they figure they can't put it off any longer because this crisis is going on indefinitely. I'm gone up to mind the kids though, not my mother. The incredible relief of this is marred only by the worry of the surgery being cancelled. Or catching it off the family and not being able to look after my parents if anything happens them in the next month.

elperello

caveat emptor wrote: »

There isn't in a market based economy. Supply and demand. Google it.

Granted the difference is that the majority of people have houses so we don't care so much about the supply of housing / homeless people.

This is different in that the majority don't have the commodity.

Oh I think you can take for granted that I understand supply and demand and I also know how to use Google

Just the times we are in a little bit of social responsibility goes a long way.

So does a little bit of hand sanitiser.

We can get back to debating the housing shortage later.

Vudgie

DisneyLover wrote: »

Feeling like absolute ****e. Lots of misinformation. GP telling me one thing and consultant telling me another.

Have all the symptoms bar the sweating (yet) temp is up but not reached 39 yet. Work in ortho so they're sending me a swab within 48 hours from an hour ago.

Short of breath since last night had asthma as a child and haven't experienced that since it's awful feels like someone is sitting on my chest. Awful stomach and back pain

How do you think that you may have acquired it?

expectationlost

Gooey Looey wrote: »

It's nonsense an flawed because when you try to stop the spread by shutting things down the health service will already be overwhelmed

well I did add that you graduate the shutdown, do it bit by bit, so the anticipate the response lag. I think he was trying to show that too, even though he didn't say it.

murpho999

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

as the weather improves , the hospitals will be less busy cos there will be less winter flu cases , freeing up space for covid patients, its very relevant

How do you work that out? Weather generally does not make people sick.

1641

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

It's not. Trust me! Nobody can get tested over there. My sister lives in Herts

According to Sky News they are confining testing to patients in hospital. They have stopped community testing.

take everything

ironingbored wrote: »

Video message from Giovanni Zampino a 40-year old who's been in intensive care at the Maria Vittoria hospital in Turin for a week.
He was admitted to hospital with his father Antonio, both diagnosed with Covid-19. Giovanni is winning his battle while his father Antonio (76) lost his. The last time he saw his father was when they were admitted and he discovered he was dead in a text offering condolences. "I think he died at the beginning of the week I'm not sure."

Hello everyone, sorry for the mask but unfortunately I still can’t speak without it.
I want to make this video because too many people are not taking seriously this goddam virus which turned my life upside down about 10 days ago.

My name is Giovanni Zampino. I’m from Turin. Up until a few days ago, my life was carrying on as normal. My main job was talking care of my father and enjoying my hobbies, amongst which a lot of sport and friends. A completely normal life just like many of you.

I have to say, like others, I underestimated this godforsaken virus. I thought it was political, military, a hoax…a lot of things. I did nothing out of the ordinary to have gotten this virus but unfortunately it got into my body and affected the person dearest to me; my father.

A lot of people say this is just like the flu. I can tell you this virus is not just a flu. It gets into you and possesses you and it attacks your lungs and airways. The worst thing is that we don’t know anything about it. How do you defeat something that you don’t know about? There’s too much ignorance.

The message I want to give you is please be careful. Stay at home for 15 days. Stay with your families. Play board games, watch films, read a book. We can only get our lives back to normal, if everyone together follows these instructions. Because you must understand this is not a game. I spend my nights with the oxygen mask. I can’t sleep. My life has completely changed, and I don’t want anyone to go through what I’ve gone through. This is like being in a horror film. Unfortunately, it’s reality.




https://video.lastampa.it/torino/io-e-mio-padre-affetti-da-covid-19-io-sono-vivo-per-miracolo-e-lui-e-morto-questo-non-e-un-gioco/111409/111408

Wow.
That really resonates with me.
Hopefully it resonates with every (youngish) person on here

mcmoustache

Achasanai wrote: »

Adults* worried about being a 'rat' when they could be helping to prevent the spread of a disease that kills old people. The priorities that some people have.


*I'm just assuming you're an adult.

Using the term "rat" like that isn't something that you hear outside of criminals and children.

Omackeral

skimpydoo wrote: »

If you won't name the pub at least name where they are. Give us an idea so that we can do what we we are going to do with the Molly Malone. Never darken its doors.

Stop giving this attention. ''A friend on Facebook said...'' should've been when everyone started to ignore.

Kermit.de.frog

1641 wrote: »

According to Sky News they are confining testing to patients in hospital. They have stopped community testing.

Britain is undermining the efforts of it's neighbors.

Professor Moriarty

expectationlost wrote: »

good explanation of why you delay (or graduate) the shutdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8

A better explanation as to why you shouldn't.

Achasanai

mcmoustache wrote: »

Using the term "rat" like that isn't something that you hear outside of criminals and children.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think I may have been mistaken in using the term 'adult'.

Speak Now

murpho999 wrote: »

How do you work that out? Weather generally does not make people sick.

Regular flu is seasonal.

DrumSteve

Gave me a laugh anyway.

DisneyLover

Vudgie wrote: »

How do you think that you may have acquired it?

Multiple patients I know where diagnosed with it and I was in London so could be either. I'm self isolating now at home waiting on swab to arrive cause if I have it that means others in my hospital could be affected obviously.

starbaby2003

Eu are bringing in restrictions to necessary travel only. Does this mean we can close the border ?

Gooey Looey

expectationlost wrote: »

well I did add that you graduate the shutdown, do it bit by bit, so the anticipate the response lag. I think he was trying to show that too, even though he didn't say it.

It's another trip on HMS Unicorn with these Tories

Stevieluvsye

1641 wrote: »

According to Sky News they are confining testing to patients in hospital. They have stopped community testing.

Correct.

Thepoet85

Currently waiting to be tested myself. Was in contact with someone two weeks ago who has since been confirmed as positive. I was feeling unwell last week and didn't realise that I had been in contact with someone who was positive until Saturday. My symptoms have now passed but the doctors want to test me anyway.

Harry Palmr

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1239566465860276224?s=20

From tomorrow all @lidl_ireland stores will have dedicated shopping hours for older and vulnerable customers. All stores will have prioritised queuing & assistance for shoppers from 9 - 11am each day

How is this going to work - in Australia you need to have an old geezers card to take advantage, do I need to bring a copy of my prescriptions and/or driving licence?

Hedgehod55

mcmoustache wrote: »

Using the term "rat" like that isn't something that you hear outside of criminals and children.

This poster has a long history of attention-seeking behaviour. Best off ignoring them. He made that post to get a reaction, knowing that people would ask him to name the pub, so that he could make his point that they're "doing nothing illegal", as if that absolves them of all social responsibility.

These threads would be much better if we could all just ignore the dense trolls.

dan786

Great move

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1239566465860276224?s=20

hetuzozaho

weldoninhio wrote: »

No.

I hear that pub has closed now anyway

NSAman

Report on BBC world service today, that Iran has MASSIVELY under-reported the figures. Two statisticians have stated that there must be in excess of 100K cases based on the number of known infected individuals. We will never know alas. Satellite imagery show massive mass graves being dug. Shocking if this is true.

Shn99

starbaby2003 wrote: »

Eu are bringing in restrictions to necessary travel only. Does this mean we can close the border ?

source?

dublin99

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which mask are you referring to? A bog standard lightweight mouth/nose mask is of little to no medical value unless you have symptoms (in which case you should be at home anyway). The virus enters the eyes and will get around the pretty flimsy masks most people are wearing as they do not contour around the face tightly enough and they have no actual filter effect
!

You have to differentiate between surgical masks (one way protection) and respirators (two way protection). In any event any mask reduces the risk of you breathing in droplets from someone coughing or sneezing close by.

Here is a good explanation of the various types/specs:

https://fastlifehacks.com/n95-vs-ffp/

Gael23

Boris Johnson is putting the lives of several million of his own citizens at risk

deathbomber

expectationlost wrote: »

good explanation of why you delay (or graduate) the shutdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8

In theory it appears a good strategy, in reality it is not, more than likely they are going to be overrun with cases

caveat emptor

rossie1977 wrote: »

They haven't even begun clinical trials on humans. Looking at minimum 18 months to 2 years before that would be available publicly

You read a dozen of these claims daily.

Nearly 20 years on we have no cure for SARS which should tell you everything

SARS was contained. We are trying to contain this. Also no non asian people got SARS. This is different and global resources will be allocated.

Polio? Smallpox? This is not our first rodeo. Read a book

Kermit.de.frog

Humanitarian groups warn of Covid-19 "carnage" among refugee camps


Don't worry. Turkey has only 18 cases :rolleyes: Those Syrian refugees are grand.

I hope there are consequences for the countries hiding their figures or not testing.

pH

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/franmcnulty/status/1239566465860276224?s=20

That's a horrible announcement. It really is unclear if that's 'priority checkout access' for older people or them having exclusive access to the store. Also what do the terms 'elderly' and 'older more vulnerable customers' actually mean. Who actually qualifies?
* I don't mean doing this for vulnerable people is horrible - I mean the wording of the announcement leaves a lot to be desired.