CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

tobefrank321

Unless Johnson falls into line, a Brexit deal should be off the table.

What the UK is doing now will do far more damage to Ireland and the Irish economy than a no deal Brexit.

If we become as bad as the UK with coronavirus our health service will be overwhelmed and we won't be welcomed anywere in the world.

Ban UK flights now.

tom1ie

scamalert wrote: »

very acceptable, better then donkeys crying like a horde to do stuff and let gangs roam free, if they surpass annual flu deaths then maybe reconsider but atm, here and in uk theres f all issues to be worried about.


this been said to death virus will still be here 3-4 weeks later probably even a year or two, so at least they have free will and no spreading panic is better then some going hysteric, a lot in Ireland mentally ill, which isnt good to spread rumors and crap stats.


When even highest ranking top school scientists have no answers or clue, prevention or isolation wont solve this, some cry for beds or ventilators yet dont realize if one will need it they prob wont make it either-way, accept reality and move on, seems most that cant cope with, can't fight something that's invisible nor has a cure, sure put a bin bag over yourslef and stay home for few months but it will still be there even if not a single case reported, once everyone goes back to normal.

and no im not being selfish here as have plenty of family who have to be on front lines of this $hit, and they know risks but still keep clear head.

This post is all over the place. So we are all panicking over nothing, yet you’ve family on the frontline of this “****”.
I suppose everyone else in every other country in the world is concerned over nothing then yeah?

Doctor Jimbob

igCorcaigh wrote: »

According to the guardian, 15pc of those who died in Italy were aged under 40.

Wasn't that Iran?

BorneTobyWilde

Italy are fighting back, COME ON ITALY !!!

spookwoman

Honestly don't know if peaked China peaked at about 55k out of its 80/81k but Italy's death rate make me wonder what their real infection rate is

Hobgoblin11

Bojo wants to squash the sombrero, racist ?

Quantum Erasure

Blueshoe wrote: »

This thread has been ruined by people continually whinging about Britain.

Close it down da feck.

wouldnt be anything to do with the press conference going on

Reckless Abandonment

We really need to see the Italian cases drop soon. It's a real test on how quarantine euro style will work. Unfortunately I expect the death rate to stay very high.

mloc123

splinter65 wrote: »

What scientific evidence are you basing this on?

Italy...

They are basically following the same plan as Italy did

igCorcaigh

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Wasn't that Iran?

Was it? I don't have access to the article now.

yourdeadwright

So lockdown in Italy hasn't made a difference yet ,

Kermit.de.frog

UK may not be exempt from EU travel ban

https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1239597628758908929

Jpmarn

Hoping Italy has peaked. About 44000 tests carried out in UK.

dummy_crusher

bdmc5 wrote: »

Died at home? So new cases literally have no where to go and have to hope they can recover at home?

Is it still older age group with underlying that are passing away or is there any breakdown

If anybody comes across any detailed data like this, I'd be very interested to take a look, thanks.

mloc123

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So lockdown in Italy hasn't made a difference yet ,

It will take 2 weeks to see the results

BorneTobyWilde

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So lockdown in Italy hasn't made a difference yet ,

At the turning point, cases lower, deaths lower. Hopefully it continues

Vudgie

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Was it? I don't have access to the article now.

Would it not have been prudent to check the source before posting it as fact?

tobefrank321

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

UK may not be exempt from EU travel ban

https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1239597628758908929

They have to be. We are going to get lumped in with them if we don't cut ourselves off. We need to choose between Britain or Europe/rest of world.

Our government need to choose soon, no delays like banning flights to Italy.

ChikiChiki

"The objective is to flatten the curve and slow down the infection rate so that it can be manageable for the NHS"

Pubs open, schools open, advise to not congregate in crowds.

These lads are an absolute shower of grade A spoofers.

Saying one thing and doing the opposite.

pH

Stheno wrote: »

Think up to Saturday it was 4300

They are doing 600 per day I think

The press conference at six will have figures iirc

So given the relative population sizes, up to now the UK (44,000 tests) and Ireland (4,300 tests) have been doing pretty much exactly the same thing.

also ...

Our Pub closure was announced a mere 12 hours ago, the only major difference is the schools situation. I think they will be closed in the UK by the end of the week, things are changing hour by hour, and everyone's an expert!

amadangomor

madcabbage wrote: »

How this man is a leader i can never understand.

Sinn Fein are the most popular party here, post truth world, chancers rule:)

Gynoid

If Irish doctors, like the one a few pages back in a linked tweet, are saying that they are waiting 6 days for people to be tested here, then really we are coping no better than the UK re testing. On matters like this I think it would be better for the Irish authorities to admit if they have limited tests, or limited testing capacity, and that therefore we do not know the true numbers. Pretending otherwise gives a false sense of security that discourages many people from being serious about taking responsible measures. In my opinion.

Jeju

Daughter has has bad cough, throat and other symptoms since Friday. The OH got through and booked a test for the 3 if us. Got a call saying I was only to attend. I managed to get my daughter included as she has the worst symptoms. Went to Mahon popup centre and they were very good. When leaving the guy who was going to the cars taking the names and escorting the people into the centre was helping an elderly gent when approached by 2 ferrile youths who were shouting "Test us for Corona"
He told the to get lost and was met with "Fkuc u ya Langer , what ya gonna do"

Humberto Salazar

FTA69 wrote: »

Boris Johnson and his puppets on the telly there promising “drastic action” which proceeded to be a few recommendations that people avoid going to the pub (if they feel like it), or that maybe people should avoid mass gatherings (if that takes their fancy). In other words; no state action whatsoever despite they themselves saying we’re in the process of a massive upswing of infection and subsequent deaths.

These people are absolutely asleep at the wheel.

I'm getting sick of these posts criticizing a foreign countries intervention, one might as well criticize Iceland's. We have issues here and I don't see enough critical appraisal of that. Just a morbid fixation on Boris and his cronies. If it was Corbyn you'd probably be praising him.

cameramonkey

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Down 200 new cases on yesterday.

Surge in deaths though.

Their should be a surge in deaths before this thing gets better. If the number of people getting infected is decreasing or flattening this is a very good sign.

The point at which people get really ill seems to be about 9-10 days after infection, so we will still see deaths increasing as people who have been ill for more than 10 days succumb to the virus as well as new patients hitting the 10 day threshold.


If new infections continue to fall we can see the light at the end of the tunnel for Italy.

Kermit.de.frog

Not looking good for Madrid

https://twitter.com/joethebrew/status/1239351859057434625

niallo27

igCorcaigh wrote: »

According to the guardian, 15pc of those who died in Italy were aged under 40.

That's just plain bollox. Only 2 people under 40 have died up to last saturday.

Donald Trump

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

We really need to see the Italian cases drop soon. It's a real test on how quarantine euro style will work. Unfortunately I expect the death rate to stay very high.

I think I read somewhere the median time from onset of symptoms to death has been shown to be about 14 days.

That means that the deaths today are likely to have had first symptoms maybe 14 days ago. Lets say it took 4 days to seek help and be diagnosed (that's generous), then we have another 10 days of increasing deaths even if new cases are falling.

I'd imagine that any experience gained, or lessons learned from the earlier cases would be outweighed by the increasingly stretched resources over those 10 days too.

Yurt2

kalkat2002 wrote: »

As per italy news they expect to hit the peak there in aprox 2 weeks

Absolutely devastating for Italy, another two weeks of this is absolute cruelty.

PTH2009

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Italy are fighting back, COME ON ITALY !!!

How so ?

FTA69

splinter65 wrote: »

You’re absolutely bricking it that they might turn out to be right in the end. These kind of posts based on nothing but a ludicrous childish dislike of all things British are just cringe making.

Yeah I hate everything British and that’s why I’ve lived here for almost 13 years. P*ss off, you haven’t a clue what you’re on about.

flynnlives

Italian figures wont drop for another week or so. They are still in the surge phase.

Seamai

dark crystal wrote: »

I work in the civil service in a department that's having to deal with the huge deluge of claims coming in from people being currently laid off. Let's just say it's crazier than we've ever seen. We're all being asked to work overtime, forego pre-booked holidays/annual leave etc. That's fine, you do what needs to be done in times like this.

However, it also highlights the absolute pr*cks who work for the CS who are taking advantage of the crisis to take 'sick leave'. One such pr*ck who works in our office and rarely makes it in for a full week has just told us he's 'self-isolating' for the next two weeks due to having a cold and he's worried that this puts him at higher risk than the rest of us. This has been signed off by a doctor apparantly. I'm raging. Absolutely raging at the selfishness of it.

Sorry for venting. I'm just so upset that while the rest of us are working non stop, some having to leave their kids at home with elderly relatives, others being laid off from their jobs altogether, there are still selfish people like him out there willing to take advantage of the situation. :mad:

I can see this being an issue in many work places, these sort of people are everywhere. 4 weeks ago were jokingly taking bets on how long it would be before our resident work shy colleague would use COVID19 as an excuse to take time off work, even though most of us are taking her claims of infection with a grain of salt, people are still worried. I had a bug last week (the other end, no worries) and worked from home, I haven't taken a sick day in over 18 months and this one doesn't give a flying fúck about her colleagues

Stheno

Jeju wrote: »

Daughter has has bad cough, throat and other symptoms since Friday. The OH got through and booked a test for the 3 if us. Got a call saying I was only to attend. I managed to get my daughter included as she has the worst symptoms. Went to Mahon popup centre and they were very good. When leaving the guy who was going to the cars taking the names and escorting the people into the centre was helping an elderly gent when approached by 2 ferrile youths who were shouting "Test us for Corona"
He told the to get lost and was met with "Fkuc u ya Langer , what ya gonna do"

Thanks for posting that's good to hear your experience

As for the ferals, words fail me

BorneTobyWilde

How and where not to wash your hands

tobefrank321

ChikiChiki wrote: »

"The objective is to flatten the curve and slow down the infection rate so that it can be manageable for the NHS"

Pubs open, schools open, advise to not congregate in crowds.

These lads are an absolute shower of grade A spoofers.

Saying one thing and doing the opposite.

Got it in one. They don't even understand what flattening the curve means. They are going to end up with a huge spike in numbers and deaths at the start. If they do flatten the curve it will be at a very high level of deaths like Italy. And they will export cases to Ireland. Europe needs to cut the UK adrift.

dummy_crusher

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Was it? I don't have access to the article now.

If you're quoting figures like this you should probably link a source...

is_that_so

cameramonkey wrote: »

Their should be a surge in deaths before this thing gets better. If the number of people getting infected is decreasing or flattening this is a very good sign.

The point at which people get really ill seems to be about 9-10 days after infection, so we will still see deaths increasing as people who have been ill for more than 10 days succumb to the virus as well as new patients hitting the 10 day threshold.


If new infections continue to fall we can see the light at the end of the tunnel for Italy.

There have been reports in various places recently that the situation in some areas in Italy has stabilised.

cameramonkey

littlemac1980 wrote: »

No unfortunately not in my opinion, there just too many factors that could result in an apparent reduction of reported cases and deaths that could mean the reduction is an anomaly and not indicative of the true trend/pattern.

That’s not to say it isn’t true that the numbers might be reducing just that one days results really aren’t enough to show a decline, if however tomorrow and the day after we continue to see declines then that would be absolutely great news and here’s hoping!

But really one days results at this stage (coming from a place where people are undoubtedly in utter crisis) would have to taken with a grain of salt at this point imho.

I have been talking to people in Italy, they are taking the lockdown seriously and if you are outside without a reason you will get a big fine. It will have an effect on the numbers getting the virus at some stage hopefully that is what we are seeing now but it may be too early to tell.

TheAsYLuMkeY

Yurt! wrote: »

Absolutely devastating for Italy, another two weeks of this is absolute cruelty.

agreed, but given the lax approach from Irish society, that us in the very near future,

I fear for my country.

bekker

pH wrote: »

So given the relative population sizes, up to now the UK (44,000 tests) and Ireland (4,300 tests) have been doing pretty much exactly the same thing.

also ...

Our Pub closure was announced a mere 12 hours ago, the only major difference is the schools situation. I think they will be closed in the UK by the end of the week, things are changing hour by hour, and everyone's an expert!

Comparatively UK should have done >49k, individuals.

Knex*

Stheno wrote: »

Decrease in both news cases and deaths today, is it possible they've peaked?

Too early to say, really. Needs a few days of consistent decreases, I would think.

Not even sure how well they're managing and counting the people left to fend for themselves that were given a low survival rate. Could be a lag in numbers for that alone.

Strumms

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Boris saying "should do this", "should do that"


No action.

That struck me too. The language too loose and suggestive.

“ as your prime minister and having listened to at length, the views of the experts I am required to ‘DIRECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU’ here in the UK to ........

bdmc5

niallo27 wrote: »

That's just plain bollox. Only 2 people under 40 have died up to last saturday.

Thank you for taking the time to correct that post. The absolutely ridiculous misinformation from people be it honest mistake or not is unbelievable

igCorcaigh

Vudgie wrote: »

Would it not have been prudent to check the source before posting it as fact?

Just going by memory.

Edit: I was incorrect. It was Iran not Italy.

Apologies..

https://twitter.com/conndonovan9/status/1239244408572252163?s=19

BorneTobyWilde

PTH2009 wrote: »

How so ?

A drop is a drop, its so much better than a rise.

pH

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Have you been following the news? Pubs are closed. Restaurants and cafes to soon follow.

yes but Varadkar isn't practicing eugenics just because there hasn't been a legally enforced shutdown of cafes and restaurants in Ireland as of 5pm mon 16th March. Both countries are taking very similar steps perhaps with slightly different emphasis.

Ireland isn't trying to euthanize older people because they haven't recommended total isolation for them. In fact some irish retailers are saying older vulnerable people should get out and come to their stores(take advantage of priority checkouts and such) rather than get other people to do their shopping for them.

It is really hard to know what will produce the best results, all of this is uncharted territory. We need to stop attributing malicious intentions to decisions which are certainly not malicious.

cameramonkey

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So lockdown in Italy hasn't made a difference yet ,

Why do you say that? The fact that the infection rate did not increase means it did. Even logically by people not meeting means the virus cannot be passed on. Do you understand?

tobefrank321

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Not looking good for Madrid

https://twitter.com/joethebrew/status/1239351859057434625

Southern European countries seem to do really badly once cv takes hold.

dark crystal

Seamai wrote: »

I can see this being an issue in many work places, these sort of people are everywhere. 4 weeks ago were jokingly taking bets on how long it would be before our resident work shy colleague would use COVID19 as an excuse to take time off work, even though most of us are taking her claims of infection with a grain of salt, people are still worried. I had a bug last week (the other end, no worries) and worked from home, I haven't taken a sick day in over 18 months and this one doesn't give a flying fúck about her colleagues

We did the same about this fella! I should have known it was coming when on Friday, he claimed people parents taking days off to mind their children was discrimination against non parents.

Over the weekend, he's suddenly in 'self isolation' with a fookin cold. :rolleyes: