CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

is_that_so

There is a strong sense here that there is a pretty comprehensive plan at work.

amadangomor

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

The longer this goes on, we might wish we took a UK attitude towards it. ( let it burn through the population) I really hope the quarantine in Italy works. Otherwise It will be death by a thousand cuts

Take it easy. Listening to their expert on with Boris. When asked about the no school closures in NI he said children won't get badly affected!!!!!!

FFS if he's an expert they are fudged, does he not relaise that children with mild symptoms are vectors that can spread it to vunerable people.

They are experimenting with peoples lives, the ruling class's attitude has not changed since they tried laissez faire economics to sort out the famine. Don't trust these pricks.

Hector Savage

Stheno wrote: »

Decrease in both news cases and deaths today, is it possible they've peaked?

Ill be happy when we see 3/4 days in a row of this , we have had false dawns with Italy before ...

Stheno

30% increase per day in the next 7 days would be 1123 confirmed cases then and if it continued would be 7046 a further seven days later on March 29tj

Explains the focus to try and reduce asap

Quantum Erasure

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Contact tracing I would imagine.

i thought i heard with the move to community testing, they were giving up on contact tracing?

Hurrache

Blueshoe wrote: »

I read the Eu are considering a travel ban. Only a few days ago Trump said the same and got lambasted for it.
Funny old world.

Stay safe.

He got lambasted for it because he was blaming the EU for seeding America with the virus and taking no responsibility, nor acknowledging, the problem within his own country. Everything is a blame game. Obama even got blamed for it.

Cw85

Anyone have a link for the briefing at 8pm?

wadacrack

We cant blame the Government if this turns out terribly. They have spoken well letting the public know its very serious and been relatively proactive. Not sure what more they could have done, probably a little late to react.They cant control younger people in particular ignoring protocols

Gynoid

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Spar/Texaco Fermoy!

I think that is a very sensible arrangement, all cashiers and checkout people should be afforded similar

bodhrandude

Was listening to the news on radio HSE launched a new online help with testing, but apparently the website crashed as so many people was trying to access the site to get tested so the update I reckon is going to be huge.

Roger_007

ingalway wrote: »

I read somewhere that they are recording the cause of death based on any underlying condition rather than Coronavirus. If true a shocking way to distort the figures.

On the contrary, it’s actually a more accurate way of recording the cause of death. If someone was terminally ill anyway and then unfortunately contracted coronavirus, it would be inaccurate to say that they died from the virus.

One figure which we are not hearing is the extent to which the virus is being transmitted within hospitals. If all the serious cases are being treated in hospital it potentially exposes everyone in the hospital to the virus, including all the other patients.

pH

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Don't give NSAIDS like nurofen. There is a doctor in the UK, who thinks they might be contributing to higher death rates in Italy. (Where it is very common to give them for fever symptoms)

I'm not a doctor, so not giving medical advice. Just letting you know in case it might be important and could make a difference.

This is the doctor who said it in this video around minute 14:00 I think.

He's still doing more research, so he's not 100% sure yet. But just be careful with giving these drugs!

This man in NOT a doctor, he's a retired nurse. Doesn't necessarily make what he's saying right or wrong, but identifying him and a 'doctor' is incorrect.

"Hello Everyone,
My name is John Campbell and I am a retired Nurse Teacher and A and E nurse based in England. I also do some teaching in Asia and Africa when time permits. These videos are to help students to learn the background to all forms of health care. My PhD focured on the development of open learning resources for nurses nationally and internationally. "
https://www.youtube.com/user/Campbellteaching/about

Blueshoe

Blueshoe wrote: »

I read the Eu are considering a travel ban. Only a few days ago Trump said the same and got lambasted for it.
Funny old world.

Stay safe.

Trump did it to give two fingers to the EU. What emerged today is for health, rather than economical reasons. Funny old world indeed.

RandomName2

Gynoid wrote: »

I think that is a very sensible arrangement, all cashiers and checkout people should be afforded similar

That's really smart actually!

is_that_so

Cw85 wrote: »

Anyone have a link for the briefing at 8pm?

It will be after this.

Fakediamond

statesaver wrote: »

Yer man on RTE news said 600 - 800 cases by the end of the week and now we have FF Stephen Donnelly says 10000 cases in 2 weeks ?????????????????????

I think it’s called exponential growth

Sierra Oscar

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

i thought i heard with the move to community testing, they were giving up on contact tracing?

They're still using contact tracing. The move to community testing is separate and has been underway for a good while now ever since the National Ambulance Service started testing in homes.

The WHO stated today that countries need to massively step up both contact tracing and testing.

Cw85

Anyone have a link to the live briefing at 8pm?

pjohnson

wadacrack wrote: »

We cant blame the Government if this turns out terribly. They have spoken well letting the public know its very serious and been relatively proactive. Not sure what more they could have done, probably a little late to react.They cant control younger people in particular ignoring protocols

They were certainly slow in acting. But they have made the correct decisions eventually and are doing a good job all things considered.

Ficheall

Cw85 wrote: »

Anyone have a link to the live briefing at 8pm?

https://www.rte.ie/news/player/live/11/ after this

Phibsboro

leavingirl wrote: »

Ah the cognitive dissonance...

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

I'm not sure what your point is? Based on that link, the mortality rate for this flu season in the USA is only .06% (i.e. half the lower estimate of .1% in the post you are replying to). This season had very low mortality, though it has been very extensive compared to other recent seasons.

Sir Oxman

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ypJdQPVmeaxW

Link for press conference
Varadkar speaking now

Blueshoe

Hurrache wrote: »

He got lambasted for it because he was blaming the EU for seeding America with the virus and taking no responsibility, nor acknowledging, the problem within his own country. Everything is a blame game. Obama even got blamed for it.

Italians blaming the Chinese. Chinese blaming some chap for eating a bat.

He proposed a ban got lambasted now the Eu are proposing a ban and people are hailing it as a great idea.

VinLieger

bodhrandude wrote: »

Was listening to the news on radio HSE launched a new online help with testing, but apparently the website crashed as so many people was trying to access the site to get tested so the update I reckon is going to be huge.

We will not see results of the mass testing for a while, they are opening croke parl for drive through testing in the coming days which will really help speed things up

Happy4all

wadacrack wrote: »

We cant blame the Government if this turns out terribly. They have spoken well letting the public know its very serious and been relatively proactive. Not sure what more they could have done, probably a little late to react.They cant control younger people in particular ignoring protocols

Maybe Leo making announcement from US holiday junket at the time wasn't a great idea

bodhrandude

Cw85 wrote: »

Anyone have a link to the live briefing at 8pm?

Just go on google and type rte news now and it should be there.

Spanish Eyes

I kinda feel for Regina Doherty, the acting Min for Social Protection and she lost her seat too.

Takes someone with cojones to see the SP aspect of this through, knowing you are toast anyway. High five and a fist bump to her from me anyway.j

Can’t be easy.

Funsterdelux

Powers to detain people who dont isolate

Sierra Oscar

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

James 007

flazio wrote: »

There's a lot of three letter acronyms that I have no clue what they are.

Apologies

EHS = Environmental, Health & Safety
SLT = Site Leadership Team
APIs = Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients

I am just concerned that I would be viewed as the person making the EHS decisions on site, which in reality it has always been management. Also I feel now that they want to have me as the person on site while they will probably hibernate for a few weeks while this boils over & then cools down again

Akrasia

Ger Roe wrote: »

Yeah... I'd like to chip in with some advice, but I have no idea what is being said.

I think he just got a promotion minus the payrise or boost in Job title

SLT = Senior/Site Leadership Team
EHS is Environmental Health and Safety
API is Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient (drug)

VinLieger

Blueshoe wrote: »

Italians blaming the Chinese. Chinese blaming some chap for eating a bat.

He proposed a ban got lambasted now the Eu are proposing a ban and people are hailing it as a great idea.

The EUs ban is to stop it spreading further inside and outaide the EU, complwtely different to his idiotic plan which was weeks too late from being effective

brendanwalsh

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I kinda feel for Regina Doherty, the acting Min for Social Protection and she lost her seat too.

Takes someone with cojones to see the SP aspect of this through, knowing you are toast anyway. High five and a fist bump to her from me anyway.j

Can’t be easy.

Does the incumbents who even got voted out still turn up to work until new government gets elected ?

I mean if so she’s still being paid handsomely

spookwoman

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

:eek:

giveitholly

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

And majority won't need hospital treatment

Tootsie_1

Shn99 wrote: »

Any big announcements from the cabinet sub committee ? Cant watch at the moment

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1239625741538594816

KathleenGrant

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

Fcuk

TheValeyard

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

Jesus, that's mental

VinLieger

giveitholly wrote: »

And majority won't need hospital treatment

10% of 15000 is 1500 we have 250 ICU beds....

So there's no imminent lockdown.

owlbethere

wadacrack wrote: »

We cant blame the Government if this turns out terribly. They have spoken well letting the public know its very serious and been relatively proactive. Not sure what more they could have done, probably a little late to react.They cant control younger people in particular ignoring protocols

Of course we can blame the government if this turns out terribly. Michael Martin wanted to ban flights coming in from Italy in the early days of this virus crisis unfolding. Banning flights from Italy and the hotspot at the time, would have been our best course of action.

Sir Oxman

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Taoiseach states he believes 15,000 people will have tested positive by the end of the month.

I thought I misheard!

spookwoman

giveitholly wrote: »

And majority won't need hospital treatment

but all those have the potential to infect other, if people don't practice social distancing it will just keep spreading

FutureGuy

giveitholly wrote: »

And majority won't need hospital treatment

You're looking at about 1500-2000 who will. That is a very large number given the intense treatment needed.

giveitholly

spookwoman wrote: »

but all those have the potential to infect other, if people don't practice social distancing it will just keep spreading

Totally agree

FutureGuy

FutureGuy wrote: »

You're looking at about 1500-2000 who will. That is a very large number given the intense treatment needed.

And it's only March.

is_that_so

No shutdown tomorrow say Leo. Going to stick with social distancing as the main effort.

KathleenGrant

spookwoman wrote: »

but all those have the potential to infect other, if people don't practice social distancing it will just keep spreading

Most of those probably already have.

Akrasia

James 007 wrote: »

Apologies

EHS = Environmental, Health & Safety
SLT = Site Leadership Team
APIs = Active Pharmaceutical Ingredients

I am just concerned that I would be viewed as the person making the EHS decisions on site, which in reality it has always been management. Also I feel now that they want to have me as the person on site while they will probably hibernate for a few weeks while this boils over & then cools down again

Looks like an opportunity to step up in your career and take a leadership role. Even if your current employer doesn't recognise it now, you can put it on your CV and it will look great if you are seen to have take the reigns and and pushed yourself during a time of crisis.

Reckless Abandonment

Blueshoe wrote: »

I read the Eu are considering a travel ban. Only a few days ago Trump said the same and got lambasted for it.
Funny old world.

Stay safe.

I'm pretty sure most people here agreed with it and wanted our government to do the same