Mental health and CoVid-19

Wanderer78

Patsy167 wrote:

Post-lockdown anxiety is a new phenomenon affecting a growing number of people who are worried about different aspects of normal life from socialising, to returning to work or even picking up a faster pace of life again.

It looks like many of us will be suffering from a form ptsd post covid, and our health system isn't ready for that

Sunrise_Sunset

As an introvert, and someone with anxiety, one facet being social anxiety, I am most definitely feeling overwhelmed at the looming prospect of "back to normal". Not just that, but I think a lot of folk are of the mindset that they must "live their best lives" and get out there and do everything as places re-open. That doesn't interest me at all. However I'm married with children, and I realise that my family feel differently to me, and I will need to compromise.
I also don't have a great relationship with a parent, and colleagues and neighbours, who aren't aware of this, keep asking me "have you visited your parents yet?" They mean no harm but that question triggers my anxiety too.
I will be trying to ease back into things, whilst being mindful of my own anxiety and mental health, but whilst also being mindful of the mental health of my husband and kids who can't wait to get out there and do things. That is important to their mental health. It will be a tough balance to find.

wadacrack

Wanderer78 wrote: »

It looks like many of us will be suffering from a form ptsd post covid, and our health system isn't ready for that

When scientists bring up data about suicide rates not been any higher than pre Covid its very disingenuous and lacks context. Its the months and years later that we will see the effects of this time and lack of socialisation.

Their are some scientists out their who showing are signs of extreme narcissism also. They don't want this time to end and their celebrity status that has come with it. Obviously they are in the minority. Some of them are pro Zero-Covid in this country.

Wanderer78

wadacrack wrote:

Their are some scientists out their who showing signs of narcissism also. They don't want this time to end and their celebrity status that has come with it. Obviously they are in the minority. Some of them are pro Zero-Covid in this country.

Nacissism exists in many different forms, and exists in many different professions, its very disingenuous to single out just scientists for this trait. yes narcissism would exist in this community, but it also probably exists in every other community and profession, there actually has been studies to confirm a high concentration in the fire sectors (finance, insurance and real estate), particularly at corporate level. The scientific community would in fact attract more introverted personalities and disorders such as autism, in which narcissism can also be a trait, but generally, these individuals would rather the quite life.

wadacrack

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Nacissism exists in many different forms, and exists in many different professions, its very disingenuous to single out just scientists for this trait. yes narcissism would exist in this community, but it also probably exists in every other community and profession, there actually has been studies to confirm a high concentration in the fire sectors (finance, insurance and real estate), particularly at corporate level. The scientific community would in fact attract more introverted personalities and disorders such as autism, in which narcissism can also be a trait, but generally, these individuals would rather the quite life.

Yes but with Covid its more relevant when their are tying to continue to control people's lives.

Wanderer78

wadacrack wrote: »

Yes but with Covid its more relevant when their are tying to continue to control people's lives.

who are these they? narcissism by its very nature is a controlling trait, it never goes away, it always exists in society

wadacrack

Wanderer78 wrote: »

who are these they? narcissism by its very nature is a controlling trait, it never goes away, it always exists in society

We are talking about Covid. Not narcissism in general society.
I am talking about many members of Independent Scientific Advocacy Group (ISAG) in this country.

Many have one goal and they just won't stop despite it being clear Ireland cannot achieve this goal.

They want to win and have never shown any empathy for people who are suffering during this. I have never seen any remorse for the pain this has all caused and even the deaths etc.


NPHET I think in general are good people and in the main I trust them. They have made mistakes but I feel their intentions are good.

Wanderer78

wadacrack wrote: »

We are talking about Covid. Not narcissism in general society.
I am talking about many members of Independent Scientific Advocacy Group (ISAG) in this country.

Many have one goal and they just won't stop despite it being clear Ireland cannot achieve this goal.

They want to win and have never shown any empathy for people who are suffering during this. I have never seen any remorse for the pain this has all caused and even the deaths etc.


NPHET I think in general are good people and in the main I trust them. They have made mistakes but I feel their intentions are good.

can you be more specific, what makes you think they are narcissistic?

shtpEdthePlum

Anyone willing to be the face of oppression "for the greater good" must have a high enough opinion of themselves to stay in the firing line in spite of massive public outcry, personal attacks and a growing body of evidence to the contrary.

At least Tony had the humility to disappear after the cervical check questions came at him. He's back with a vengeance now though, less to occupy his time so I guess he has reconciled with being reviled by literally the whole country.

To say they're not narcissists is hilarious.

Wanderer78

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

Anyone willing to be the face of oppression "for the greater good" must have a high enough opinion of themselves to stay in the firing line in spite of massive public outcry, personal attacks and a growing body of evidence to the contrary.

At least Tony had the humility to disappear after the cervical check questions came at him. He's back with a vengeance now though, less to occupy his time so I guess he has reconciled with being reviled by literally the whole country.

To say they're not narcissists is hilarious.

i assume you mean he has more time on his hands, that now his wife has died?

Ten of Swords

Wanderer78 take a break from this forum

YellowLead

Personally I’m feeling so much happier these past few weeks I feel like life is coming back and I like it!

DessieJames

Just back from a boozy weekend up North, best craic ive had all this year, a sense of normality and does wonders for your mental health, id highly recommend it folks, you'll have to queue for pubs but once your in you just stay there.

All shops open too, no hotels open for a few weeks yet for tourists but plenty of Air BnB's to be had, a good weekend like that was badly needed,semed be lots of people from down here who went up the weekend.

Will be going up again in a few weeks, May 24th pubs open up there inside.

Better than sitting here wishing your life away.

DessieJames

DessieJames wrote: »

Just back from a boozy weekend up North, best craic ive had all this year, a sense of normality and does wonders for your mental health, id highly recommend it folks, you'll have to queue for pubs but once your in you just stay there.

All shops open too, no hotels open for a few weeks yet for tourists but plenty of Air BnB's to be had, a good weekend like that was badly needed,semed be lots of people from down here who went up the weekend.

Will be going up again in a few weeks, May 24th pubs open up there inside.

Better than sitting here wishing your life away.

I'm just back from a weekend hiking in Antrim too, stayed in Airbnb brought all food with me. Lovely to get away and back out, plenty of pubs had outdoor drinking in the area I was in and everyone was happy! Go live your life and don't focus too much on the anxiety of getting back to living, just do it.

DessieJames

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm just back from a weekend hiking in Antrim too, stayed in Airbnb brought all food with me. Lovely to get away and back out, plenty of pubs had outdoor drinking in the area I was in and everyone was happy! Go live your life and don't focus too much on the anxiety of getting back to living, just do it.

super stuff indeed, yes i agree totally.

GoneHome

We were asked to join a group of our extended family up in Donegal for a week in August, 19 people all told, having considered it during the week we politely declined, August just seems to soon for mixing with crowds in restaurants, pubs, etc. We've been so careful this past twelve months we're not going to risk it now in the next few months for the sake of a holiday, happy out here in our own rural ideal by the mountains and wide open countryside.

SnuggyBear

GoneHome wrote: »

We were asked to join a group of our extended family up in Donegal for a week in August, 19 people all told, having considered it during the week we politely declined, August just seems to soon for mixing with crowds in restaurants, pubs, etc. We've been so careful this past twelve months we're not going to risk it now in the next few months for the sake of a holiday, happy out here in our own rural ideal by the mountains and wide open countryside.

Enjoy your new normal

dobman88

DessieJames wrote: »

Just back from a boozy weekend up North, best craic ive had all this year, a sense of normality and does wonders for your mental health, id highly recommend it folks, you'll have to queue for pubs but once your in you just stay there.

All shops open too, no hotels open for a few weeks yet for tourists but plenty of Air BnB's to be had, a good weekend like that was badly needed,semed be lots of people from down here who went up the weekend.

Will be going up again in a few weeks, May 24th pubs open up there inside.

Better than sitting here wishing your life away.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm just back from a weekend hiking in Antrim too, stayed in Airbnb brought all food with me. Lovely to get away and back out, plenty of pubs had outdoor drinking in the area I was in and everyone was happy! Go live your life and don't focus too much on the anxiety of getting back to living, just do it.

Feck ye anyway. Got me thinking about this last night. So I just booked a guided hike in Slieve Donard for the 30th and will stay with a friend near Belfast and go out after. Looking forward to it now.

DessieJames

GoneHome wrote: »

We were asked to join a group of our extended family up in Donegal for a week in August, 19 people all told, having considered it during the week we politely declined, August just seems to soon for mixing with crowds in restaurants, pubs, etc. We've been so careful this past twelve months we're not going to risk it now in the next few months for the sake of a holiday, happy out here in our own rural ideal by the mountains and wide open countryside.

enjoy your new normal

Tell me how

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Enjoy your new normal

DessieJames wrote: »

enjoy your new normal

Wasn't enough for one person to say it no?

Fair play to GoneHome, they have made a decision which they are comfortable with. Wouldn't be much point doing something just because other people told you to behave a certain way.

DessieJames

Tell me how wrote: »

Wasn't enough for one person to say it no?

Fair play to GoneHome, they have made a decision which they are comfortable with. Wouldn't be much point doing something just because other people told you to behave a certain way.

it's an open forum , i'm entitled to post.

Just telling it as it is, each to their own and all that jazz!!

Graces7

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm just back from a weekend hiking in Antrim too, stayed in Airbnb brought all food with me. Lovely to get away and back out, plenty of pubs had outdoor drinking in the area I was in and everyone was happy! Go live your life and don't focus too much on the anxiety of getting back to living, just do it.

A pretty phantasy... There are some theories that believe a little phantasising and day dreaming is good for mental health. You do it well! Almost credible!

Mine involves a long helicopter ride ( that alone is my dream) to various places I love. Starting with the top of Croagh Patrick....then Ross Errilly…. the Trad Farms at Muckross.. sadly closed... Oh and of course Mizen Head.. maybe Fastnet Lightnouse. mmmm! A few other much- loved places.

If it helps to cope with the reality? And to be at peace with your situation . Without breaching vital safety rules? Which I am sure no one here would do and which would actually be very bad for mental health at a meaningful level. As well as the physical risk to you and to others. .

And no harm done. No risk of infection to you or to anyone else. Which of course is what really matters.

Enjoy the dream! Dreams are good! Let it refresh you! And hang on in there as nearly ……..

Offfline again now; . Stay safe and stay well

shtpEdthePlum

Tell me how wrote: »

Wasn't enough for one person to say it no?

My impression was that one person was saying it, but twice.

Graces7

Graces7 wrote: »

A pretty phantasy... There are some theories that believe a little phantasising and day dreaming is good for mental health. You do it well! Almost credible!

Mine involves a long helicopter ride ( that alone is my dream) to various places I love. Starting with the top of Croagh Patrick....then Ross Errilly…. the Trad Farms at Muckross.. sadly closed... Oh and of course Mizen Head.. maybe Fastnet Lightnouse. mmmm! A few other much- loved places.

If it helps to cope with the reality? And to be at peace with your situation . Without breaching vital safety rules? Which I am sure no one here would do and which would actually be very bad for mental health at a meaningful level. As well as the physical risk to you and to others. .

And no harm done. No risk of infection to you or to anyone else. Which of course is what really matters.

Enjoy the dream! Dreams are good! Let it refresh you! And hang on in there as nearly ……..

Offfline again now; . Stay safe and stay well

Do you not believe that Maggie did those things?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you not believe that Maggie did those things?

I was wondering if I misread Graces comment, glad it just wasn't me.

I actually did go to Antrim last weekend as they were open in the North........and last month I went to Donegal.... completely alone both times, to an Airbnb both times, all my food and firewood etc..... hiked and swam...met my sister (who lives in Donegal) on a deserted beach who I hadn't seen in 14 months, so good for my mental health, I put nobody in danger as I saw nobody. It wasn't a fantasy.


I've also been down to Limerick to see my 2 little grandchildren as my daughter was quite unwell after the 2nd birth a few months ago and needed help.
In a few days we will all be able to go anywhere again in Ireland which is fantastic. So why would it be a fantasy that I headed off a week early to hike in Antrim? I did and it was great. I hope everyone enjoys their freedom to travel anywhere after this weekend Its not fantasy, its a reality again thank God!

Graces7

GoneHome wrote: »

We were asked to join a group of our extended family up in Donegal for a week in August, 19 people all told, having considered it during the week we politely declined, August just seems to soon for mixing with crowds in restaurants, pubs, etc. We've been so careful this past twelve months we're not going to risk it now in the next few months for the sake of a holiday, happy out here in our own rural ideal by the mountains and wide open countryside.

Yes we have the best of it all. Here, the wide ocean .

And it will be all the sweeter for having waited and anticipated and being safe. Enjoy the summer as we will do here. Quiet and lovely .

Much better for all aspects of health.

Scuse me now please? Some work just came in.

And far too lovely a day for all this; the thread has gone to bedlam anyways!

, so have a lovely day everyone! Relax and forget …. heal and stay well..

Graces7

Deleted User wrote: »

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SnuggyBear

Not sure what's going on now

dobman88

After reading the posts above about the guys clearing their heads, I decided to clear my own on Thursday.

Just back from a couple of days at home in Killarney to visit my parents and it has done wonders for the head. As luck would have it, my brother had 2 days off work and txt me Friday morning to climb Carrantouhill, so we did. Clear skies all around, we could even see the Blasket Islands clearly, it was so perfect. Kate Kearneys just down the road from it were serving pints too so it was a perfect end to a great day.

I didn't see one Garda so for anyone struggling with their own demons, I'd highly recommend you do what it takes to make you feel better. If you want to wait until inter county travel is "allowed" on Monday, you don't have long to go. Hang in there.

Irish Stones

dobman88 wrote: »

so for anyone struggling with their own demons, I'd highly recommend you do what it takes to make you feel better.

Fact is that even if a part of my mind says that I should be go out and have fun or do whatever pleases me, the other part of my head says that I should shut inside home, not see anyone, and let me rot away with my sadness or, like the NYT said a few weeks ago, my languishing.
Nothing teases me, at all, even those things that would make my life bright until the end of 2019.