Supermarkets - the Megathread

Plumbthedepths

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Protection for who? Is this about comfort or protecting each other?

The visor will protect you from the staff and your mask will protect them from you. As I said you are in the store for a short period of time the staff are not. I have worn a face mask for hours on end not an experience I wish on others if they have another option. If it bothers you so much go somewhere where your concerns are catered for. Home delivery is also a choice.

Living Off The Splash

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/face-visors-may-protect-wearer-but-not-other-people-against-covid-19

Interesting article here. Visors protect the wearer but not really anyone else it seems.

is_that_so

Lana Green Sophomore wrote: »

I was in Centra in Rathfarnham Village at lunchtime. Loads of youngish (20s and 30s) workers queuing at the deli counter then at the checkout queue to pay for their sandwiches and wraps. Literally not one of them wearing a mask. So selfish.

TBH no long term mental health benefits come out of this type of mindset. People will do what they do and we have no power to change it. Just look out for yourself.

Plumbthedepths

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/face-visors-may-protect-wearer-but-not-other-people-against-covid-19

Interesting article here. Visors protect the wearer but not really anyone else it seems.

Pick a different shop so, easy.

tscul32

I've found that my local tesco has over 90% masks early in the morning but as the day progresses that figure gets lower. Local Spar the figure is pretty low, but there may be the idea that because you're in for just a minute or two it's not worth it.
I do bring a child with me to the supermarket every now and then, to get them out of the house. Mine are not out socialising and I can see the cabin fever setting in. They are 12 and 8 so not running around, they stay beside me, watch for proximity to others and wear a mask at all times. They are better behaved than many of the adults there.
On the sanitising thing, anyone seeing me at the entrance might think I don't sanitise but I have my own in my bag and I apply it on the way from the car, as I have seen others do too.
Social distancing seems to have faded into the past in public so at least with masks on I feel a bit more comfortable. And I have no problem with staff just wearing a visor if they're on an 8 hour shift, there has to be a balance.

Princess Calla

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The visor will protect you from the staff and your mask will protect them from you. As I said you are in the store for a short period of time the staff are not. I have worn a face mask for hours on end not an experience I wish on others if they have another option. If it bothers you so much go somewhere where your concerns are catered for. Home delivery is also a choice.

Every time someone has something negative to say your response is... "home delivery"

The thread is about supermarket shopping as a whole, so people will talk about their positive and negative experiences.

People will call out bad behaviour by fellow shoppers and questionable practices by stores. Plenty of people have also praised their local supermarket.

We are all aware that home delivery is an option. I could very easily avail of the option but I'm well able to get to the supermarket myself. Yes, stupid inconsiderate behaviour annoys the sh1te out of me, but I still think leaving the delivery slots for someone who needs them more is a better option i.e. Elderly, single parents, people who don't have cars etc.

Shutting every negative comment down with "get home delivery" is not the way to have a discussion.

Princess Calla

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

In our local Dunnes Stores in Blackrock, the staff were wearing visors...….I would much prefer if they wore masks. The visor just directs the wearers droplets downwards and are not captured. I know that a mask does not catch all the droplets but the mask wearer can also sneeze in to his arm.....

What happens if someone sneezes wearing a visor? Can't sneeze in to your arm...

Chuck it? Wipe it?

The one thing about the visors though is they will help any customer that is hard of hearing and lip reads.

If customers are wearing the masks the visor should offer enough protection.

Plumbthedepths

Princess Calla wrote: »

Every time someone has something negative to say your response is... "home delivery"

The thread is about supermarket shopping as a whole, so people will talk about their positive and negative experiences.

People will call out bad behaviour by fellow shoppers and questionable practices by stores. Plenty of people have also praised their local supermarket.

We are all aware that home delivery is an option. I could very easily avail of the option but I'm well able to get to the supermarket myself. Yes, stupid inconsiderate behaviour annoys the sh1te out of me, but I still think leaving the delivery slots for someone who needs them more is a better option i.e. Elderly, single parents, people who don't have cars etc.

Shutting every negative comment down with "get home delivery" is not the way to have a discussion.

You have been moaning about children in shops, you have been moaning about families in shops , you have been moaning about couples in shops. My suggestion about home delivery was a helpful suggestion to help you dispell some of the outrage and anger I have seen in your posts.
Not singling you out but the posts I have seen slating people for bringing children to the shops really annoys me. When did people start hating children so much and then we have the judgement. People need to mind themselves and leave others alone.

freshpopcorn

Princess Calla wrote: »

Every time someone has something negative to say your response is... "home delivery"

The thread is about supermarket shopping as a whole, so people will talk about their positive and negative experiences.

People will call out bad behaviour by fellow shoppers and questionable practices by stores. Plenty of people have also praised their local supermarket.

We are all aware that home delivery is an option. I could very easily avail of the option but I'm well able to get to the supermarket myself. Yes, stupid inconsiderate behaviour annoys the sh1te out of me, but I still think leaving the delivery slots for someone who needs them more is a better option i.e. Elderly, single parents, people who don't have cars etc.

Shutting every negative comment down with "get home delivery" is not the way to have a discussion.

I think home delivery is an idea for people who have issues with going out to the supermarket at the moments. It’s clearly distressing for some.
People can also ask somebody to get them a bit of shopping if they were concerned about taking up delivery slots.

is_that_so

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think home delivery is an idea for people who have issues with going out to the supermarket at the moments. It’s clearly distressing for some.
People can also ask somebody to get them a bit of shopping if they were concerned about taking up delivery slots.

Yep. One way to process all of this is to reduce the number of potential stress points, whether that's masks, behaviour of others or just shops themselves.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You have been moaning about children in shops, you have been moaning about families in shops , you have been moaning about couples in shops. My suggestion about home delivery was a helpful suggestion to help you dispell some of the outrage and anger I have seen in your posts.
Not singling you out but the posts I have seen slating people for bringing children to the shops really annoys me. When did people start hating children so much and then we have the judgement. People need to mind themselves and leave others alone.

It’s nothing to do with’hating children’. But at the moment most shops are limiting the number of people they let in. So someone going in with a partner and two kids is leaving three people waiting in the queue unnecessarily.

freshpopcorn

is_that_so wrote: »

Yep. One way to process all of this is to reduce the number of potential stress points, whether that's masks, behaviour of others or just shops themselves.

In my experience the people will always find something that is making the shop distressing for them. That’s why I think not going to the supermarket might be the best solution for them.

freshpopcorn

Lana Green Sophomore wrote: »

It’s nothing to do with’hating children’. But at the moment most shops are limiting the number of people they let in. So someone going in with a partner and two kids is leaving three people waiting in the queue unnecessarily.

I know locally we haven’t had any queues in weeks and it’s still an issue for some people to see two people in a shop together.

Plumbthedepths

Lana Green Sophomore wrote: »

It’s nothing to do with’hating children’. But at the moment most shops are limiting the number of people they let in. So someone going in with a partner and two kids is leaving three people waiting in the queue unnecessarily.

On children topic, I have seen comments referring to children as 'feral' and 'virus ridden' . Sounds like hate to me. Also a person bringing their child/ children into the shop may not have an option.
No idea where you live but queues don't seem to be much of an issue anymore.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

On children topic, I have seen comments referring to children as 'feral' and 'virus ridden' . Sounds like hate to me. Also a person bringing their child/ children into the shop may not have an option.
No idea where you live but queues don't seem to be much of an issue anymore.

I haven’t had any problem with children in supermarkets but there are still queues outside some of my local shops so I can understand why some shoppers might feel a bit annoyed when a whole family goes in ahead of them. I’m just pointing out that doesn’t equate to hating children.

odyssey06

jlm29 wrote: »

The masks that most people are wearing will not contain droplets. Basic respiratory etiquette needs to be observed even when wearing a mask.

You'll have to provide a source for that claim versus coughing into you elbow.
The reason why we're being asked to wear masks and face coverings is because they do contain the droplets. That's not my opinion, that's what the CDC say:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

Plumbthedepths

Lana Green Sophomore wrote: »

I haven’t had any problem with children in supermarkets but there are still queues outside some of my local shops so I can understand why some shoppers might feel a bit annoyed when a whole family goes in ahead of them. I’m just pointing out that doesn’t equate to hating children.

I'm just pointing out calling children feral or virus ridden for having the audacity to be in a shop, is hate imo.

GazzaL

We'll know in the next week if supermarkets suddenly became virus hotspots last Monday morning. I have my doubts.

Princess Calla

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You have been moaning about children in shops, you have been moaning about families in shops , you have been moaning about couples in shops. My suggestion about home delivery was a helpful suggestion to help you dispell some of the outrage and anger I have seen in your posts.
Not singling you out but the posts I have seen slating people for bringing children to the shops really annoys me. When did people start hating children so much and then we have the judgement. People need to mind themselves and leave others alone.

My supermarket, dunnes, has signs up all over the store requesting only one person per household to come to the shop. It's a very simple request but would appear too much for some people.

If memory serves you stated that you live rural and queues aren't an issue.... Queues in my area are an issue, an hour wait is "a good day" so seeing a family of five wandering out the door is frustrating as that one family has added about 10 minutes onto a queue.

I have never once said I hated children in any of my posts. However, I fail to see the need to bring everyone to the supermarket. Arrange a time when your partner is home and go on your own, or if you are single arrange home delivery.

Princess Calla

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Also a person bringing their child/ children into the shop may not have an option.

Eh home delivery?

Jeez can't believe no one thought of that!

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'm just pointing out calling children feral or virus ridden for having the audacity to be in a shop, is hate imo.

Fair enough. General remarks like that are unfair. But many posters have simply objected to children being brought into supermarkets at the moment or being allowed to rún around the place. I think that's a valid viewpoint and not a child hating one.

Patrick2010

Princess Calla wrote: »

My supermarket, dunnes, has signs up all over the store requesting only one person per household to come to the shop. It's a very simple request but would appear too much for some people.

If memory serves you stated that you live rural and queues aren't an issue.... Queues in my area are an issue, an hour wait is "a good day" so seeing a family of five wandering out the door is frustrating as that one family has added about 10 minutes onto a queue.

I have never once said I hated children in any of my posts. However, I fail to see the need to bring everyone to the supermarket. Arrange a time when your partner is home and go on your own, or if you are single arrange home delivery.

Where are you living that you have to queue for an hour? My local Dublin tesco has had no queues for weeks now. Work colleagues report the same in their areas in different stores.

pm1977x

The click and collect is free (from Tesco) and booking slots is much easier now, the demand is way down, I see a lot of people bring kids with them and they love interacting with the friendly truck driver and helping pack everything away, all safely socially distanced of course. It's a great service, although ideally come alone, obviously.

jlm29

odyssey06 wrote: »

You'll have to provide a source for that claim versus coughing into you elbow.
The reason why we're being asked to wear masks and face coverings is because they do contain the droplets. That's not my opinion, that's what the CDC say:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

https://theconversation.com/amp/which-mask-works-best-we-filmed-people-coughing-and-sneezing-to-find-out-143173
Sorry, this isn’t a medical journal, but there’s lots of articles around. The video here is a good demonstration. Cloth masks will definitely allow less droplets into the environment, but lots of people have single layered ones, lots of people have lose fitting masks, and lots of people have the masks under their noses in shops. It’s not a acceptable for a mask wearer in a queue in a shop to cough or sneeze without turning away from people or using an elbow.

odyssey06

jlm29 wrote: »

https://theconversation.com/amp/which-mask-works-best-we-filmed-people-coughing-and-sneezing-to-find-out-143173
Sorry, this isn’t a medical journal, but there’s lots of articles around. The video here is a good demonstration. Cloth masks will definitely allow less droplets into the environment, but lots of people have single layered ones, lots of people have lose fitting masks, and lots of people have the masks under their noses in shops. It’s not a acceptable for a mask wearer in a queue in a shop to cough or sneeze without turning away from people or using an elbow.

That's not the question I posed though.
Comparison of coughing into elbow versus coughing through the range of masks that are worn.

jlm29

odyssey06 wrote: »

That's not the question I posed though.
Comparison of coughing into elbow versus coughing through the range of masks that are worn.

We were told to cough or sneeze into our elbow so that droplets from coughs or sneezes wouldn’t land on surfaces and then be picked up by other people. If the droplets aren’t being contained by a cloth mask, why would we not continue to cough or sneeze using our elbow to protect other shoppers in a supermarket? We still need to social distance, wash our hands and practise good respiratory etiquette.

The WHO agrees with me, according to Forbes magazine.


https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/04/07/everything-you-need-to-know-about-wearing-masks-until-the-cdc-tells-us-more/amp/

odyssey06

jlm29 wrote: »

We were told to cough or sneeze into our elbow so that droplets from coughs or sneezes wouldn’t land on surfaces and then be picked up by other people. If the droplets aren’t being contained by a cloth mask, why would we not continue to cough or sneeze using our elbow to protect other shoppers in a supermarket? We still need to social distance, wash our hands and practise good respiratory etiquette.

The WHO agrees with me, according to Forbes magazine.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/04/07/everything-you-need-to-know-about-wearing-masks-until-the-cdc-tells-us-more/amp/

The WHO are telling us to wear masks.
Some people are saying they dont need masks.
They say they cough into their elbows.
I am saying you still need masks because elbow tactic is better than nothing but obviously not good enough or the same organisation wouldnt tell us we need masks.
Elbow is with masks not instead of.

Postgrad10

I had the opportunity to shop in Dunnes yesterday evening . I don’t have a local store so had to travel.
It was a much pleasanter experience. Everyone wearing masks and giving each other space. Shop assistants couldn’t be more helpful. And the store was shining!

jlm29

odyssey06 wrote: »

Elbow is with masks not instead of.

I know. That was my point.

Away With The Fairies

Lidl has a new traffic light system. A huge red or green light outside the door of the shop. It was the first thing I saw, a huge red light similar to traffic lights. And in case you're thick, a sign outside explaining the traffic light system.

I was first in line and a red light outside, so I was waiting. Along comes an idiot who walks straight in and realised they couldn't get into the second door and was trapped inside because they couldn't go back out the way they came. And expected me to open the door from the outside. I did but I didn't want to for the stupidity.

Zardoz

Went into Tesco today around 5pm ,had to pick something up for the missus .
Hadn't been in there in months as get deliveries.
An absolute car crash .

Most people had masks but loads were going around with them only covering the mouth .Others going around with them around their neck .
Nobody keeping any distance ,it seems they think that the mask will give them immunity.

Baffling how people cannot put on a mask properly ,its hardly rocket science.

Zardoz

Zardoz wrote: »

Went into Tesco today around 5pm ,had to pick something up for the missus .
Hadn't been in there in months as get deliveries.
An absolute car crash .

Most people had masks but loads were going around with them only covering the mouth .Others going around with them around their neck .
Nobody keeping any distance ,it seems they think that the mask will give them immunity.

Baffling how people cannot put on a mask properly ,its hardly rocket science.

I work in one of the bigger Dunnes in Cork and this absolutely wrecks my head. I've posted about it before but nobody is doing social distancing anymore, they never really did it in the first place. Big gangs of people coming through the shop with no bother stopping practically on top of you and standing chatting with each other. The off licence is the worst though. Loads of people standing about gawping at wine for five minutes and then out comes the phone to google it or call their friends about what to buy. It's ridiculous. Come in, grab what you want quickly and gtfo fast.

GazzaL

I went into a Tesco today, 45% of people were safely shopping while not wearing masks and 55% were safely shopping while wearing masks.

Plumbthedepths

I go into a shop, I don't like the behaviour I see I go somewhere else. Instead of whinging about it on SM, I guess I'm strange like that.

GazzaL

It's disappointing to see cases rise since the promotion of mask-wearing began.

beggars_bush

GazzaL wrote: »

It's disappointing to see cases rise since the promotion of mask-wearing began.

Not surprising considering the movement of people down to the west and South coast

freshpopcorn

beggars_bush wrote: »

Not surprising considering the movement of people down to the west and South coast

According to the readio there was a good few cases in a factory in Kildare and a direct provision center.

CIARAN_BOYLE

GazzaL wrote: »

It's disappointing to see cases rise since the promotion of mask-wearing began.

People see masks as being safe.

I can go somewhere if I'm wearing a mask.

amadangomor

Woman just there in Tesco Maynooth with a really heavy cough.

She put her mask on while she was waiting for the lift.

Stay the fk home if you have any symptoms ffs.

amadangomor

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I go into a shop, I don't like the behaviour I see I go somewhere else. Instead of whinging about it on SM, I guess I'm strange like that.

I don't feel the need to come on here and whinge about people whinging either:pac:

Plumbthedepths

amadangomor wrote: »

I don't feel the need to come on here and whinge about people whinging either:pac:

Yet here you are, ironic isn't it.

Living Off The Splash

amadangomor wrote: »

Woman just there in Tesco Maynooth with a really heavy cough.

She put her mask on while she was waiting for the lift.

Stay the fk home if you have any symptoms ffs.

There was a woman walking through Blackrock Dublin yesterday. Anytime anybody came toward her on the footpath she would stop and turn her face to the wall/hedge so her back was facing them. Only when the other person had passed would she move on.

She arrived at the Frascati Shopping Centre and walked straight in without any mask, despite the requirement to wear them in shops/shopping centres.

If she is so concerned about passing people on the footpath why would she not wear a mask in the shopping centre.

amadangomor

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Yet here you are, ironic isn't it.

You were called out on you're hypocrisy and self righteousness, build a bridge my friend

Jim_Hodge

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I go into a shop, I don't like the behaviour I see I go somewhere else. Instead of whinging about it on SM, I guess I'm strange like that.

Not strange at all. I've done it and so have many others. I've also seen shopkeepers telling people to shop elsewhere if they don't want to wear a mask or follow the other rules in place.

Plumbthedepths

amadangomor wrote: »

You were called out on you're hypocrisy and self righteousness, build a bridge my friend

What self righteousness? It makes no sense for someone to stay in a situation they are not comfortable in unless it's so they can whinge on SM about the experience.
I have been in a few places I was uncomfortable in and left immediately. Check my posts not once have I named a place or made a post about it.
I have however stated at the early stages how I couldn't understand Lidl remaining open where people were on top of each other versus Woodies closed where even before Covid the only person I met was at the till.

freshpopcorn

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I go into a shop, I don't like the behaviour I see I go somewhere else. Instead of whinging about it on SM, I guess I'm strange like that.

I do think the complainers are loving the Covid situation. They got years out of the Recession, housing situation and now this.
Locally we’ve a few who’d be vocal about social media. They’ve always been like this prior to social media.
They’ve loads of friends online and loads of people they’ll talk to but aren’t well liked.
Sorry for the rant.

Nibs05

How were the supermarkets today, any madness, need to shop for my elderly mother tomorrow.

punisher5112

Some reports stated very busy, look up Google for the store and it will show the busy times live....
Get delivered if worried.

Nimrod stampede has eased down, safety retreated to their caves with three month supply of food that will go off after five days.

ednwireland

about 5 people in my lidl this evening in donegal