The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

devnull

Did my eyes and ears just deceive me or are they preventing follow up questions by either talking over them or muting them in this press conference?

Timberrrrrrrr

devnull wrote: »

Did my eyes and ears just deceive me or are they preventing follow up questions by either talking over them or muting them in this press conference?

Did you see the face of the guy from ITV as they cat away from him? Sheer disgust and exasperation.

uptherebels

Boris got asked too many important questions in one go by the BBC(?). He skipped over answering them

devnull

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Did you see the face of the guy from ITV as they cat away from him? Sheer disgust and exasperation.

Wasn't just me it seems, even a Tory commentator noticed it:
https://twitter.com/montie/status/1264594917675937796

devnull

Unusual that none of Sky News, The Mirror, and The Guardian didn't get a question, Sky normally get one every day.

Edit: Beth Rigby said this on the Sky News Live feed:

"This to me is critical. And would have been good to have a simple direct Q to PM on it"
https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/1264595458476965888

Wonder if she is hinting at putting forward such question but it wasn't selected....

nc6000

That's the UK lockdown over. Anyone can do anything now, you just have to say you're following instincts.

Say the Police stop a car with a family in it heading off somewhere - all they have to do is say they have developed symptoms and are going to isolate near where they have family.

munsterlegend

nc6000 wrote: »

That's the UK lockdown over. Anyone can do anything now, you just have to say you're following instincts.

Say the Police stop a car with a family in it heading off somewhere - all they have to do is say they have developed symptoms and are going to isolate near where they have family.

Yep I’m following my instincts.

Banner fights back

devnull wrote: »

Unusual that none of Sky News, The Mirror, and The Guardian didn't get a question, Sky normally get one every day.

Edit: Beth Rigby said this on the Sky News Live feed:


Wonder if she is hinting at putting forward such question but it wasn't selected....

Was it just the broadcast media were the only members of media that were allowed to ask BJ questions though?

Incredibly rude, arrogant and talking over people asking genuine serious questions. Another shocking display from BJ in this evenings presser. And yes he was muting follow up questions, your ears and eyes were not decieiving you devnull.

munsterlegend

Those press conferences are a joke. He just repeatedly says the same thing without any follow up permitted.

crushproof

munsterlegend wrote: »

Those press conferences are a joke. He just repeatedly says the same thing without any follow up permitted.

Well that's his weekly, or is it fortnightly, appearance done now. Back to his mansion to hide and he'll throw some MP in front of the cameras tomorrow

A Dub in Glasgo

Johnson just treated everyone in the UK with utter contempt live on TV

Joe_ Public

Yeah no question for sky though they didnt mention it afterwards so not sure why that was.

There will be more details and follow ups tomorrow and more pressure. That was utterly dismal from pm, though expectations weren't high anyway. I still think cummings might go, 50-50 at best for him.

Joe_ Public

crushproof wrote: »

Well that's his weekly, or is it fortnightly, appearance done now. Back to his mansion to hide and he'll throw some MP in front of the cameras tomorrow

Liasion committee appearance scheduled for Wednesday so that could be interesting.

munsterlegend

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Liasion committee appearance scheduled for Wednesday so that could be interesting.

He’ll duck that one.

Joe_ Public

The C4 guy asked the best question in the context of the line Johnson was peddling - did Cummings actually avail of any childcare help when he went to durham? Of course Johnson just ignored it.

Acosta

crushproof wrote: »

Well that's his weekly, or is it fortnightly, appearance done now. Back to his mansion to hide and he'll throw some MP in front of the cameras tomorrow

In his own head he probably thought him coming to work on a Sunday was enough of a concession. No need for any sacking

EDit

Anyone seen the Civil Service tweet? Hilarious

dogbert27

Looking forward to seeing Keir Starmer challenge Boris on the Cummings issue!

ArmaniJeanss

Banner fights back wrote: »

Was it just the broadcast media were the only members of media that were allowed to ask BJ questions though?

No there was a mix of broadcast (BBC/C4), newspaper (The Scotsman) and online (politico).

Joe_ Public

munsterlegend wrote: »

He’ll duck that one.

He might, i suppose, but it would look pretty bad in the circumstances, given they've been months already trying to nail him down. And he even manipulated hard right tory mp Bernard Jenkin as committee chair in anticipation.

AllForIt

That's 2 days is a row all journalist's asked questions exclusively about Cummings.

If they are not going to ask questions related to the presentation they should not be allowed into the briefings at all. They have plenty other opportunity to ask questions about Cummings as seen this morning.

I suggest members of the public should ask all the questions from now on. You know real people who live in the real world. Not people who have to answer to their editor-in-chief or have to be seen to perform for their Twitter fans.

strandroad

Bad move by Johnson. He will be judged on his handling of the Covid crisis; whatever "uncharted territory, conflicting advice" etc excuses he could try will no longer work now he has doubled down on how worthless guidelines are to his advisors and now to himself.

A Dub in Glasgo

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1264601893571039242

Timberrrrrrrr

AllForIt wrote: »

That's 2 days is a row all journalist's asked questions exclusively about Cummings.

If they are not going to ask questions related to the presentation they should not be allowed into the briefings at all. They have plenty other opportunity to ask questions about Cummings as seen this morning.

I suggest members of the public should ask all the questions from now on. You know real people who live in the real world. Not people who have to answer to their editor-in-chief or have to be seen to perform for their Twitter fans.

You think johnson shouldn't have to face tough questions from journalists just nice easy cherry picked ones from the public?

dogbert27

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1264601893571039242

Post has been taken down!

A Dub in Glasgo

AllForIt wrote: »

That's 2 days is a row all journalist's asked questions exclusively about Cummings.

If they are not going to ask questions related to the presentation they should not be allowed into the briefings at all. They have plenty other opportunity to ask questions about Cummings as seen this morning.

I suggest members of the public should ask all the questions from now on. You know real people who live in the real world. Not people who have to answer to their editor-in-chief or have to be seen to perform for their Twitter fans.

If your advisor is now the story for the 3rd day, time to move that advisor on to pastures new

Joe_ Public

Hadn't seen this before. Cummings own description of being locked down with his wife AND son during the time they were both ill. Begs the question what exactly the "difficult position" Johnson was referring to relates to exactly.

https://twitter.com/Detnam1/status/1264601796456198157?s=20

Beechwoodspark

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

If your advisor is now the story for the 3rd day, time to move that advisor on to pastures new

BJ appears to be absolutely dependant on that advisor

Enzokk

AllForIt wrote: »

That's 2 days is a row all journalist's asked questions exclusively about Cummings.

If they are not going to ask questions related to the presentation they should not be allowed into the briefings at all. They have plenty other opportunity to ask questions about Cummings as seen this morning.

I suggest members of the public should ask all the questions from now on. You know real people who live in the real world. Not people who have to answer to their editor-in-chief or have to be seen to perform for their Twitter fans.

I will ask again, what are your thoughts on this whole issue? Was Cummings breaking the guideline of the government when he drove all that way with his wife who was displaying symptoms?

A Dub in Glasgo

dogbert27 wrote: »

Post has been taken down!

Yes it has as Cummings spends the next 2 days tracking down which poor sod posted it

devnull

The sound of the penny dropping:
https://twitter.com/montie/status/1264597531402567680
This is the same Tim Montgomerie who founded the well known Tory publication Conservative Home and was appointed to be one of Johnson's special advisers last year.

Johnson basically has now linked himself to Cummings and by not getting rid of him and staunchly defending him, anything that Cummings does from here will tarnish himself as well.

It didn't have to be that way, but now this scandal could define his Premierhsip.

Enzokk

This is obviously just a stitch up by the liberal lefty press and media,

https://twitter.com/montie/status/1264597531402567680?s=20

AllForIt, you are being deliberately obtuse if you think this is not a story that should be focused on. The UK better hope they don't have to go into lockdown again because Cummings and Johnson just spaffed all over any future attempts to keep the public on side during one.

Ha, got beaten to posting the link.

brickster69

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

GeorgeBailey

nc6000 wrote: »

That's the UK lockdown over. Anyone can do anything now, you just have to say you're following instincts.

Say the Police stop a car with a family in it heading off somewhere - all they have to do is say they have developed symptoms and are going to isolate near where they have family.

Wish a senior Irish politician/adviser could be caught doing something similar so I could head to Donegal for a weekend

Enzokk

Johnson was getting very tetchy by the end of the press conference. I think he was just a few questions away from doing a Trump and just turning his back and walking away, which is what he essentially did by ignoring follow ups and muting journalists.

People will still choose to be blind to it, but he is not fit to be leader ad he doesn't have the temperament or emotional intelligence or even the work ethic to do a good job. His record is shocking as mayor of London and he has thousands of deaths on his hands for dithering and giving unclear messaging to people.

Joe_ Public

Was it entirely coincidental neither mirror nor guardian were represented at the briefing today? Didnt see any suggestion they were excluded anyway, you'd expect at least one of them to be present every day.

Anyway, Pippa Crerar might be dropping a gentle hint here, i think.

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1264597652311879691?s=20

Seth Brundle

There's a huge amount of negative reaction to Johnson's tv appearance (rightly so). I don't think this can be glossed over that easily at this stage.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1264205885427064832?s=19

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1264588916805586945?s=19

brickster69

brickster69 wrote: »

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

His wife's sister lived around the corner. He also went back to Durham weeks later.

Enzokk

brickster69 wrote: »

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

It is very important that individuals with symptoms that may be due to coronavirus (COVID-19) and their household members stay at home. Staying at home will help control the spread of the virus to friends, the wider community, and particularly the most vulnerable.

UK Government advice

Timberrrrrrrr

brickster69 wrote: »

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

Many followed government guidelines and stayed home, what would you have done?

Enzokk

#Followingthescience


https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1264606173212409857?s=20

devnull

Enzokk wrote: »

This is obviously just a stitch up by the liberal lefty press and media,

https://twitter.com/montie/status/1264597531402567680?s=20.

Writers from The Times now sticking their boot in:
https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/1264592894612123649

Honestly it's hard to see how a person who isn't tone deaf could come out and deliver a performance like Johnson did today, although this and the action during the week when he wanted to charge NHS staff for treatment suggests that he is indeed, completely tone deaf.

I guess that is the problem when you are surrounded by some of the people he has in key positions in Cabinet who are a shadow of some of those purged and retired Tories who were in the last Government who were rather more honourable and principled and in touch, even if I didn't share their politics.

He's literally the bona fide example of an out of touch, deluded, arrogant self centred leader.

WoollyRedHat

This is GUBU

dogbert27

Enzokk wrote: »

#Followingthescience


https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1264606173212409857?s=20

Now replaced with

#Followyourinstincts

declanflynn

brickster69 wrote: »

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

Get into a car with that person and the 4 Y O child, and drive for hundreds of miles, its the only solution!

Enzokk

I guess his 4 year old needed to see the castle and it was the responsible thing to do,

https://twitter.com/skynewsSam/status/1264608248797241345?s=20

devnull

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Was it entirely coincidental neither mirror nor guardian were represented at the briefing today? Didnt see any suggestion they were excluded anyway, you'd expect at least one of them to be present every day.

Sky didn't get one either I noticed and they've normally got one every day, but then again they gave the Tories a pretty rough ride the last few days and Beth Rigby and Sam Coates have been much more forensic than the BBC.

There was one comment from Beth Rigby earlier on when they were talking about the Castle that Cummings apparently went to, where she said essentially said something along the lines of how good it would have been if there was just a simple direct question about it to BJ. Makes you wonder if she wanted to but she was not selected.

robinph

brickster69 wrote: »

What would anyone else do if they was closely working with someone who had come down with Corona for long period and there 4 YO child had autism.

Pretty sure they don't diagnose autism that young.

Does Cummings kid have such a diagnosis?

brickster69

Deleted User wrote: »

His wife's sister lived around the corner. He also went back to Durham weeks later.

Maybe the child with severe autism was not familiar with the sister who lives round the corner and more familiar with family where he spends most of his time.

brickster69

robinph wrote: »

Pretty sure they don't diagnose autism that young.

Does Cummings kid have such a diagnosis?

You presume that