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Who would you prefer managing the Corona virus pandemic: FG or SF

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    I have much more comfort knowing FG are in government right now rather than SF. Could you imagine SF trying to deal with this issue, they’d probably have some TD tweeting how the virus is an international Jewish conspiracy.

    Btw, to all the millenials who voted SF in the expectation of increased social (free) housing. Let’s see how comfortable you are with SF managing the resulting economic crisis and job losses.

    Is there not a zoo for threads like this on here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Who cares, all parties need to row in behind this

    I do think the opposition parties could show a bit more solidarity publicly. This isn't and shouldn't be a political issue

    I agree. They have stayed far too quiet. Time for everyone works together


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Wow, that poll is a landslide. Are there that many more FG supporters on boards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Wow, that poll is a landslide. Are there that many more FG supporters on boards?

    No just sensible people who realise the right party are in charge of this situation at the right time -SF have absolutely nothing to offer any of us in a time like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    I don't know if SF would be any better than FG. Their record in power in the North isn't promising and they voted for the bail out because they were told it was the right thing to do, by bankers, ffs (you couldn't make it up).

    You'd think any left wing politician would know you don't nationalize corporate private debt, you only do this for the poor.

    The current shower are not any better, waiting to close schools, waiting to seal the borders for non essentials (inc. north), waiting to cocoon the elderly, waiting to ban people going outside without reason.

    We've seen Italy and China we know what's coming, the people already want to comply. Waiting only leads to more infections, more deaths and a larger problem.

    Could SF do any worse, well yes I suppose they could we only need to see what the sophomoric idiots in UK are up to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    No just sensible people who realise the right party are in charge of this situation at the right time -SF have absolutely nothing to offer any of us in a time like this.

    :pac: pathetic blueshirt bullsht. All parties are behind the current efforts to deal with the virus, don't be so childish trying to pointscore off it. Pathetic stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Wow, that poll is a landslide. Are there that many more FG supporters on boards?

    Definitely appears to be the case and the bitterness re the recent election result is still palpable. Blueshirts wailing how could the voters do this :pac:. Pathetic stuff, utterly pathetic. We have much bigger things to concern ourselves with; grow up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    Definitely appears to be the case and the bitterness re the recent election result is still palpable. Blueshirts wailing how could the voters do this :pac:. Pathetic stuff, utterly pathetic. We have much bigger things to concern ourselves with; grow up.

    Get the dig in first and then look for unity. Your lack of self awareness is hilarious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Get the dig in first and then look for unity. Your lack of self awareness is hilarious.

    The whole thread is a dig, and there's a few of them. Are we supposed to ignore that? In the real world there is political unity behind this and SF would play their part in a national government if FG and FF wanted that in the short term. The childish threads on here from mainly FG fanboys it appears are just that; childish and pointless


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Boxcar_Willie


    Has anyone seen SF ?
    Just asking for a friend.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    I'd dislike FG as much as SF. But in this time of crisis there needs to a lesson learnt from history, the US President Lincoln's cabinet of all parties. This allowed a unified front of talented individuals to serve their country. That there is no unity government tackling Corvid-19 does not reflect well on the politial class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,880 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Far better outcomes for the island if decisions were being made in synergy between the two political jurisdictions than separately.

    Diseases don’t recognise borders therefore a 32 county cross border approach to combating this disease would have best outcomes for all people on this island.

    Wouldn't make a jot of difference. NI still follow the directives from the UK, so no matter what SF wanted to do it wouldn't get any traction with Westminster or the Unionists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    :pac: pathetic blueshirt bullsht. All parties are behind the current efforts to deal with the virus, don't be so childish trying to pointscore off it. Pathetic stuff.

    Couldn’t care about whatever blue shirt bollixolgy you are going on with, I wouldn’t let SF organise a ****in birthday party never mind a national response to a situation like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Manach wrote: »
    I'd dislike FG as much as SF. But in this time of crisis there needs to a lesson learnt from history, the US President Lincoln's cabinet of all parties. This allowed a unified front of talented individuals to serve their country. That there is no unity government tackling Corvid-19 does not reflect well on the politial class.

    I agree. I think there should be a broad cross party consensus on this and the sort of bickering that you see from FG fans on here should be put aside until the crisis abates. A commentator on The Tonight Show last night said as much; all hands to the pump, all politicians should be involved and should combine their efforts on this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    Couldn’t care about whatever blue shirt bollixolgy you are going on with, I wouldn’t let SF organise a ****in birthday party never mind a national response to a situation like this.

    :pac: Such bitterness. Grow up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    :pac: Such bitterness. Grow up.

    You do seem to be the most bitter person in here. For someone who said it’s a Bullsh1t thread, you must have the most posts on it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    SF wouldn't be able to make the cuts that will needed to be made when the crisis is over.

    They will run away from power for the next few years. They will moan about austerity and say it isn't need.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    You do seem to be the most bitter person in here. For someone who said it’s a Bullsh1t thread, you must have the most posts on it!
    SF wouldn't be able to make the cuts that will needed to be made when the crisis is over.

    They will run away from power for the next few years. They will moan about austerity and say it isn't need.

    And the bitterness continues. Pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    :pac: Such bitterness. Grow up.

    I didn't see any bitterness in the post. Dont let your blinked support of a party stop you for seeing others who believe in somthing else as bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    And to think we once used to speak about Shinnerbots.

    What should we call our YFG online cubscouts? Bluebots?

    To use a crisis like this as a platform for points scoring is scummy politics.


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has anyone seen SF ?
    Just asking for a friend.

    What do you want them to be doing right now? Being awkward or by letting the current government try get us through this? Catch yourself on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,715 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Thought Varadkar was very statesman like last night delivering the speech, Harris has stepped up as well over the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Thought Varadkar was very statesman like last night delivering the speech, Harris has stepped up as well over the last few weeks.

    I think they did fine. SF will not bicker from the sidelines like FG fanboys on here are doing


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    I didn't see any bitterness in the post. Dont let your blinked support of a party stop you for seeing others who believe in somthing else as bad.

    What “bad” have SF done on this? Cop on and grow up and stop trying to play politics with the current crisis. The election result was hard to take for you fanboys, get over it, most people have other things on their minds now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    And the bitterness continues. Pathetic.

    When you cant debate the point start the insults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    I think they did fine. SF will not bicker from the sidelines like FG fanboys on here are doing

    Lol. FG aren’t on the sidelines though? Unlike do nothing SF they’re front and centre tackling the challenges and dealing with all the ****e. This crisis proves how useless SF are, and if you don’t want to believe it just look up the road at Belfast. Absolutely rubbish and as usual Northern Nationalists have had to look to FG for leadership. Just as they had to all through Brexit. SF are a waste of space and effort and it’s a waste of energy even discussing them- basically a party of made up of honed social media cranks and conspiracy theorists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    road_high wrote: »
    Lol. FG aren’t on the sidelines though? Unlike do nothing SF they’re front and centre tackling the challenges and dealing with all the ****e. This crisis proves how useless SF are, and if you don’t want to believe it just look up the road at Belfast. Absolutely rubbish and as usual Northern Nationalists have had to look to FG for leadership. Just as they had to all through Brexit. SF are a waste of space and effort and it’s a waste of energy even discussing them- basically a party of made up of honed social media cranks and conspiracy theorists

    Exhibit A. Scummy politics


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://mobile.twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1240361848198684672

    Sin Féin haven't ruled out idea of forming national government to tackle Covid-19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    What “bad” have SF done on this? Cop on and grow up and stop trying to play politics with the current crisis. The election result was hard to take for you fanboys, get over it, most people have other things on their minds now.

    Your throwing the baby out alot . Chill corporal. Youd be surprise alot of people would support any party if it make sence wants been sold. SF just dont have want it takes. But you seem to be obsessed with getting your point scoring then mention the virus as a get out argument card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    https://mobile.twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1240361848198684672

    Sin Féin haven't ruled out idea of forming national government to tackle Covid-19

    They are more interested in power than focusing on the issue at hand and making suggestions on how best to proceed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    https://mobile.twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1240361848198684672

    Sin Féin haven't ruled out idea of forming national government to tackle Covid-19

    its like they're the screaming child demanding everyone does what they want , but then when the other children just decide to exclude them they turn round and try to compromise to stay included.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I want a government united across the political spectrum, working together to combat this crisis. Finger pointing won't solve anything, those who continue to attack FG or SF are only hampering the effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭threeball


    Mary Lou was on newstalk earlier throwing her few digs but had to be asked numerous times whether she would enter a national unity government, the jist was no but I'll say we'll explore it anyway. Didn't seem to want to have much to do with anything until this is done bar bitch from the sideline.

    Id say if you told her she could be taoiseach tomorrow she'd run a mile. Still beating the health and housing drum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭threeball


    https://mobile.twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1240361848198684672

    Sin Féin haven't ruled out idea of forming national government to tackle Covid-19

    She squirmed at the question, basically said we'll look at it but it won't work. In other words I want to be no where near this, a health service under unprecedented pressure and an economy about to tank. Ivan Yates had to twist her arm to even get an answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Yurt! wrote: »
    And to think we once used to speak about Shinnerbots.

    What should we call our YFG online cubscouts? Bluebots?

    To use a crisis like this as a platform for points scoring is scummy politics.
    TheCitizen wrote: »
    I think they did fine. SF will not bicker from the sidelines like FG fanboys on here are doing


    Blue bots? Fanboys?

    Bitterness?

    I think we can all recognise bitterness when we see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,731 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Yurt! wrote: »
    And to think we once used to speak about Shinnerbots.

    What should we call our YFG online cubscouts? Bluebots?

    To use a crisis like this as a platform for points scoring is scummy politics.
    TheCitizen wrote: »
    I think they did fine. SF will not bicker from the sidelines like FG fanboys on here are doing


    Blue bots? Fanboys?

    Bitterness?

    I think we can all recognise bitterness when we see it.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    threeball wrote: »
    She squirmed at the question, basically said we'll look at it but it won't work. In other words I want to be no where near this, a health service under unprecedented pressure and an economy about to tank. Ivan Yates had to twist her arm to even get an answer.

    She wouldn’t have had any right answer in your eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭threeball


    She wouldn’t have had any right answer in your eyes.

    Just say yes, I want to be involved, we'll deal with government formation in 6 months. But she dithered and bobbed and weaved. Typical really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    87% now favouring FG in the poll. That’s fairly damning for the other two. Especially FF. looks like they really are becoming irrelevant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    threeball wrote: »
    Mary Lou was on newstalk earlier throwing her few digs but had to be asked numerous times whether she would enter a national unity government, the jist was no but I'll say we'll explore it anyway. Didn't seem to want to have much to do with anything until this is done bar bitch from the sideline.

    Id say if you told her she could be taoiseach tomorrow she'd run a mile. Still beating the health and housing drum.

    Didnt hear it. Any suggestions from there health experts on what to do with virus how to tackle it etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,738 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    87% now favouring FG in the poll. That’s fairly damning for the other two. Especially FF. looks like they really are becoming irrelevant.

    Irish people will recognise FG's work here...stop panicking.

    They will get a bounce in the polls.

    The question is, can they maintain it in normal circumstances or when the crisis passes, which it will?
    Can they treat people fairly and when they have to do the work themselves without the goodwill and input of many experts in unprecedented world change? Will they be fair in helping people to restore their lives to normal THIS TIME, because they certainly didn't after the last crisis.

    Remains to be seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,285 ✭✭✭threeball


    Didnt hear it. Any suggestions from there health experts on what to do with virus how to tackle it etc...

    No, just Mary Lou saying this and that wasn't up to speed. I'm sure they are well aware of what is and isn't up to speed but its not like it can magically appear. The whole world is pulling from the same pool of resources. To actually even mention housing at a time like this shows the mentality of the woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,542 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    threeball wrote: »
    No, just Mary Lou saying this and that wasn't up to speed. I'm sure they are well aware of what is and isn't up to speed but its not like it can magically appear. The whole world is pulling from the same pool of resources. To actually even mention housing at a time like this shows the mentality of the woman.

    About ten mins of waffle. Waste of time tuning in, I naively assumed she’d have something leaderly to say and something to offer in the crisis. I was very wrong


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Irish people will recognise FG's work here...stop panicking.

    They will get a bounce in the polls.

    The question is, can they maintain it in normal circumstances or when the crisis passes, which it will?
    Can they treat people fairly and when they have to do the work themselves without the goodwill and input of many experts in unprecedented world change? Will they be fair in helping people to restore their lives to normal THIS TIME, because they certainly didn't after the last crisis.

    Remains to be seen.

    They did more than anyone else. Poll reflects this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    threeball wrote: »
    No, just Mary Lou saying this and that wasn't up to speed. I'm sure they are well aware of what is and isn't up to speed but its not like it can magically appear. The whole world is pulling from the same pool of resources. To actually even mention housing at a time like this shows the mentality of the woman.

    Anything about SF massive cash reserves been used to help anyone ?


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