Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

Poorside

Grand, you won't be in there taking up space.
Tell, do you take a drink yourself Mr Miser?

IAMAMORON

da_miser wrote: »

Reading about posters in a state of panic about getting back to the pub has been a absolute tonic for me, i now realise that i'm in a far better place than these sad pathetic slaves, desperate to get back to their old bad habits, for their sake i hope the pubs are shut until Christmas, it will give them more time to contemplate their pub addiction.
You dont have to goto the pub to socialise, it should be just one string in your social bow, get out there and see what else the world has to offer

1/10 , a lazy enough effort with all due respects.

I appreciate how lonely life can become without the luxury of attending a public house of a Sunday afternoon to catch up with the real world.

Have fun my friend.

da_miser

Poorside wrote: »

Grand, you won't be in there taking up space.
Tell, do you take a drink yourself Mr Miser?

Indeed i do, and i will be soaking up the sun in the garden and having a few beers this afternoon.

da_miser

IAMAMORON wrote: »

1/10 , a lazy enough effort with all due respects.

I appreciate how lonely life can become without the luxury of attending a public house of a Sunday afternoon to catch up with the real world.

Have fun my friend.

The pub is not the only option, quite sad that is only social outlet for many

Poorside

da_miser wrote: »

Indeed i do, and i will be soaking up the sun in the garden and having a few beers this afternoon.

Like myself, now why don't you focus on yourself and work on that superiority complex you have by chilling out and not getting worked up about what others do with their time, it'll make you feel an awful lot better.
Enjoy the afternoon.

never_mind

da_miser wrote: »

The pub is not the only option, quite sad that is only social outlet for many

Christ you’re awful dry.

IAMAMORON

da_miser wrote: »

The pub is not the only option, quite sad that is only social outlet for many

Sorry, I presume you have misunderstood the condescension of my initial response?

I assume you are ripping the piss, which is fine if you were showing the tiniest level of humour, but instead I anticipate you are simply a bored bore looking for attention?

Creating trite tripe conversation, via the creation of sad reflection of a persons lifestyle, is really the saddest thing I have witnessed on this site all day. That not only takes some doing, but is in fact one of the most emotionally empty feelings I have uncovered all year. You have possibly opened one of my more fervent nerves of apathy.

Take care.

opinionated3

da_miser wrote: »

Reading about posters in a state of panic about getting back to the pub has been a absolute tonic for me, i now realise that i'm in a far better place than these sad pathetic slaves, desperate to get back to their old bad habits, for their sake i hope the pubs are shut until Christmas, it will give them more time to contemplate their pub addiction.
You dont have to goto the pub to socialise, it should be just one string in your social bow, get out there and see what else the world has to offer

What other "strings" might you be referring to? I'm genuinely interested......I love going to the pub and meeting my friends after a week at work. What other options are there

da_miser

da_miser wrote: »

Reading about posters in a state of panic about getting back to the pub has been a absolute tonic for me, i now realise that i'm in a far better place than these sad pathetic slaves, desperate to get back to their old bad habits, for their sake i hope the pubs are shut until Christmas, it will give them more time to contemplate their pub addiction.
You dont have to goto the pub to socialise, it should be just one string in your social bow, get out there and see what else the world has to offer

Alcohol makes people tolerable. Especially preachy dry shïtes.

dePeatrick

Not a pub regular but will miss the food in them, sunny afternoon in a beer garden with a few scoops and some good pub grub is hard to beat.

jackboy

I don’t get the pub bashing. If you don’t like it don’t go. Many people do like it. What’s usually not mentioned in these debates is that having a few drinks in a pub with friends is one of the best, most rewarding and fun things you can do in life. Yes, there are other things you can do but not many as cheap and as fun.

IAMAMORON

Not particularly fond of restaurants, or foodies while I am opening my heart on the matter.

I wouldn't waste my time posting on a restaurant thread either..... although …

I do think that Restaurants could be become Quasi pubs for a while until the gubberment stops leaning on the masses. The longer it goes on the more trite the anti drinking lobby have become. Throw the foodies into the debate and it becomes distasteful and nauseating.

Hopefully the panic is over sooner rather than later. But I would ask every drinker to be prepared for further beatings from the Alco-Nazis once we are allowed back in. There will be a few casting aspersions for sure. Fingers will be pointed.

PTH2009

What's the story in the UK for pubs ?

CrabRevolution

In a QI annual years ago, Rob Brydon had a section on Elvis and included a line I paraphrase as "Paul Simon says his song Graceland isn't about Elvis. He mustn't have heard it." I'm reminded of the absurdity of a songwriter not hearing their own song when I hear publicans trying to speed up reopening. Talk of being like a restaurant, distancing, booking, alcohol caps etc. makes me think they've never been in a pub themselves.

Either that or they deserve an oscar for keeping a straight face while delivering these lines. Similar to their claims about how its safer to drink in a pub because publicans would never serve anyone an inappropriate amount of drink, unlike those dastardly supermarkets.

I'm looking forward to the pub reopening as much as the next man but it's fantasy to suggest that it will be feasible to enforce all these measures they are suggesting.

stephenjmcd

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Not particularly fond of restaurants, or foodies while I am opening my heart on the matter.

I wouldn't waste my time posting on a restaurant thread either..... although …

I do think that Restaurants could be become Quasi pubs for a while until the gubberment stops leaning on the masses. The longer it goes on the more trite the anti drinking lobby have become. Throw the foodies into the debate and it becomes distasteful and nauseating.

Hopefully the panic is over sooner rather than later. But I would ask every drinker to be prepared for further beatings from the Alco-Nazis once we are allowed back in. There will be a few casting aspersions for sure. Fingers will be pointed.

Appearnelty the main argument is people drink in pubs so you cant social distance, yet if you mention how people drink in restaurants its oh thats different they dont drink to excess, now I've been in some nice restaurants and I've seen people getting absolutely hammered while having a meal, 1 bottle of wine turns in 2 and so on. Argument null and void. It's an attitude of oh if I cant have some fun and a few drinks then nobody else can.

Any pubs that do reopen the trade will come back in time. I've said it previously some people think social distancing will be a thing for years to come, not a chance. Give it a few months after August and that'll be flouted at such a high level that enforcement will be pointless and that's across all sectors of society.

IAMAMORON

PTH2009 wrote: »

What's the story in the UK for pubs ?

The brewers have more clout when lobbying the gubberment there for starters. It is a different set up all things considered.

But I reckon they will be up and running there before here. It depends how the UK fare over the next 3-4 weeks on their numbers.

It looks like London got the worst of it. But they should have large herd immunity by now, possibly not enough, but certainly enough for the UK gubberment to shrug their shoulders again. The lockdown reversal will be as political as its' implementation was. But the economy will win in their decision making.

Boris is in knee deep already, he may as well get his hands dirty at this stage.

stephenjmcd

CrabRevolution wrote: »

In a QI annual years ago, Rob Brydon had a section on Elvis and included a line I paraphrase as "Paul Simon says his song Graceland isn't about Elvis. He mustn't have heard it." I'm reminded of the absurdity of a songwriter not hearing their own song when I hear publicans trying to speed up reopening. Talk of being like a restaurant, distancing, booking, alcohol caps etc. makes me think they've never been in a pub themselves.

Either that or they deserve an oscar for keeping a straight face while delivering these lines. Similar to their claims about how its safer to drink in a pub because publicans would never serve anyone an inappropriate amount of drink, unlike those dastardly supermarkets.

I'm looking forward to the pub reopening as much as the next man but it's fantasy to suggest that it will be feasible to enforce all these measures they are suggesting.

On your last point about the measures that's what I've been saying, I'd say they try it for 2 months or so but slowly people will slip back into their old way of life and that the recommendations will be widely being flouted

oceanman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

On your last point about the measures that's what I've been saying, I'd say they try it for 2 months or so but slowly people will slip back into their old way of life and that the recommendations will be widely being flouted

id say it wont even take two months, the rules will flouted from the get go..thats the nature of the pub business.

stephenjmcd

oceanman wrote: »

id say it wont even take two months, the rules will flouted from the get go..thats the nature of the pub business.

Never known a till to refuse money

Snow Garden

I do not see it possible that pubs will reopen until April 2021 at the earliest. Roadmap or not, we will be told that the metrics wont allow it and social distancing won't be possible etc. They are not going to open the pubs just before the next flu season.

messin doorman

Snow Garden wrote: »

I do not see it possible that pubs will reopen until April 2021 at the earliest. Roadmap or not, we will be told that the metrics wont allow it and social distancing won't be possible etc. They are not going to open the pubs just before the next flu season.

Just open them the blazes. Let whoever wants to go there go there. Whoever doesn’t can stay away. I don’t want to live in a country where my right to go to the pub is denied for a year. Jeez. I mean look if you said “look you have to stay out of the pubs (or replace that with any other restriction) for two months to save lives” I would say ok. But if you say a year, I’m sorry I cannot agree with that.

Saving lives is well and good as a slogan on twitter for politicians and pen pushers but time “not lived” by others through restrictions is a very serious cost as well.

stephenjmcd

messin doorman wrote: »

Just open them the blazes. Let whoever wants to go there go there. Whoever doesn’t can stay away. I don’t want to live in a country where my right to go to the pub is denied for a year. Jeez. I mean look if you said “look you have to stay out of the pubs (or replace that with any other restriction) for two months to save lives” I would say ok. But if you say a year, I’m sorry I cannot agree with that.

Saving lives is well and good as a slogan on twitter for politicians and pen pushers but time “not lived” by others through restrictions is a very serious cost as well.

Exactly, I don't indeed on sitting around and wasting a year or more of my life when places start reopening.

If people want to stay away that's their call, I dont intend to.

IAMAMORON

Snow Garden wrote: »

I do not see it possible that pubs will reopen until April 2021 at the earliest. Roadmap or not, we will be told that the metrics wont allow it and social distancing won't be possible etc. They are not going to open the pubs just before the next flu season.

On what basis though?

I mean why would they wait so long?

Muahahaha

MadYaker wrote: »

I’d say the plan is by then to have good enough testing and contact tracing to find and isolate all cases so the lockdown won’t be as necessary. This is what they’ve done in South Korea and Taiwan. No lockdowns there. We should have effective treatments by then too so less people in ICU.

I’d wonder how many can operate with social distancing though.

yeah the problem with them opening up early is that we could have a repeat of the Temple Bar scenes with a packed pub singing Sweet Caroline followed by a Twitter meltdown again. Most pubs would try their best to abide by social distancing but you'll always have a handful who flout the rules, just like that other publican in Temple Bar who remained open after every other pub in the area closed down.

Another problem for them is that there will be contact tracing and the app running. If there is an outbreak of the virus and its traced back to a pub then that is going to effect the industry as a whole and people would be nervous of going to them anyway. I know publicans want to get back open asap but if they dont get this right they could end up shooting themselves in the foot anyway. Last thing they need is a newspaper headline scaring people about going to the pub but that could well come to pass.

castletownman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Appearnelty the main argument is people drink in pubs so you cant social distance, yet if you mention how people drink in restaurants its oh thats different they dont drink to excess, now I've been in some nice restaurants and I've seen people getting absolutely hammered while having a meal, 1 bottle of wine turns in 2 and so on. Argument null and void. It's an attitude of oh if I cant have some fun and a few drinks then nobody else can.

Any pubs that do reopen the trade will come back in time. I've said it previously some people think social distancing will be a thing for years to come, not a chance. Give it a few months after August and that'll be flouted at such a high level that enforcement will be pointless and that's across all sectors of society.

Don't you know that getting drunk on wine doesn't count as either having a drink problem, or as binge drinking. Especially if you can let on that you are some sort of expert on grape varieties and vintages.

Pubs are ONLY full of alcoholics too sure :rolleyes:

Sheep Shagger

Not quite sure how they are doing it exactly but The Bath Pub are delivering takeaway pints in which look like glass.

https://twitter.com/Thebathpub?s=08

Charlie Chawkes Goat pub also seems to have some sort of ice cream truck....serving pints.

IAMAMORON

castletownman wrote: »

Don't you know that getting drunk on wine doesn't count as either having a drink problem, or as binge drinking. Especially if you can let on that you are some sort of expert on grape varieties and vintages.

Pubs are ONLY full of alcoholics too sure :rolleyes:

At last someone is speaking sense. I have seen chunts doing this for years, especially foodies. 40 years ago the only wine drank in Ireland was Blue Nun or Black Tower.

Women who drink wine in pubs are usually just looking to get the ride. Tarted up types looking to pull. They sip away on the wine using it like a prop to fit in. They don't drink more than 2 glasses while they play the room. Real women drinkers are on pints or shorts, they are better craic and the sex games are generally not getting played. Most proper female alcoholics drink wine in the bath and read a book, they are not arsed going to the pub to make a show of themselves, unless of course they are on the pull.

messin doorman

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Not quite sure how they are doing it exactly but The Bath Pub are delivering takeaway pints in which look like glass.

https://twitter.com/Thebathpub?s=08

Charlie Chawkes Goat pub also seems to have some sort of ice cream truck....serving pints.

I don’t blame them. In my opinion the whole restrictions on pubs are stupid. But playing devils advocate for a moment let’s look at the policy for illogicality present. I mean if it is unsafe to have a pint now why would it be safe on August 10th (given that we have no ability to obliterate the virus and it will almost certainly still be present then?)

It’s stupid. But the government won’t be accountable for that because 1 we are generally a thick enough electorate and will forget but 2 there’ll be a new FF led regime in place. What a country.

IAMAMORON

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Not quite sure how they are doing it exactly but The Bath Pub are delivering takeaway pints in which look like glass.

https://twitter.com/Thebathpub?s=08

Charlie Chawkes Goat pub also seems to have some sort of ice cream truck....serving pints.

Total Gimmick, get a grip.

Sheep Shagger

messin doorman wrote: »

I don’t blame them. In my opinion the whole restrictions on pubs are stupid. But playing devils advocate for a moment let’s look at the policy for illogicality present. I mean if it is unsafe to have a pint now why would it be safe on August 10th (given that we have no ability to obliterate the virus and it will almost certainly still be present then?)

It’s stupid. But the government won’t be accountable for that because 1 we are generally a thick enough electorate and will forget but 2 there’ll be a new FF led regime in place. What a country.

Waiting till 10/8 is to see how are infection numbers are by then after the first waive of restriction liftings. They could gave lifted them across the economy at once but if it didn't work and infections spiked the hospitals would never cope.

I sort of get it with pubs in that they need to be semi cautious. If people start in a pub with social distancing, after a few pints they can lose their inhibitions and may (possibly without even realising it) forget about social distancing.

In saying that they can't be shut indefinitely. If you measure peoples temperatures on entry, don'tvallowe absolutely jammed situations and there is rapid testing and contact tracing in place then perhaps it could be relaxed.