Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

SteM

The schools will reopen before the pubs imo and I can't see the schools back for another 6 to 8 weeks at the earliest.

pgj2015

pgj2015 wrote: »

I live a life which is the opposite to the one you described.

An "I'm alright jack"

daedal

The problem about pandemics and social response, is primarily down to one social trait, and that is greed, and the Irish are quite possibly one of the greediest nations in Europe, i'm not talking about all Ireland here, but those who are financially secure and couldn't give a **** about their fellow people, these are business owners, publicans, any shop that serves no purpose to being open during this pandemic. We must take action against any greedy cretin that put's the public's lives at risk.

JCX BXC

Irish are quite possibly one of the greediest nations in Europe

How did you come to this miraculous conclusion?

kenmm

JCX BXC wrote: »

How did you come to this miraculous conclusion?

In fairness - a significant amount of Irish I know would sell their granny if it got them ahead..

JCX BXC

JCX BXC wrote: »

How did you come to this miraculous conclusion?

We have been proven to be. The Celtic Tiger was sickening and has tarnished us for decades.

whisky_galore

LuasSimon wrote: »

Pubs in Dublin will re open but many in the country will remain closed. This will suit Fine Gaels get everything jobs etc into Dublin agenda.

How many pubs are worth 1 life?

monty_python

Bunch of pessimists

davidglanza

3 pubs by me still open just ring mobile and they let u in back door...

lainey_d_123

Irish_peppa wrote: »

as soon as we lift the isolation policy is this virus not going to explode again one way or another?

I keep reading this and I don't get why it would. Surely the only way viruses like this keep going is because people keep passing them on. If people obey the rules and stay in for a month or so, how is it going to be passed on? Taiwan implemented heavy measures almost immediately and they have had very few cases. Japan was never on lockdown, but they already have meticulous hygiene habits, and they have also had relatively few cases, and growing very steadily with no large spikes. Their health service doesn't seem at all overwhelmed and it's largely business as usual for them.

Vic_08 wrote: »

This isn't going to be over soon, nothing short of eradication will allow things to return to normality.

Eradicating it on this Island will be monumentally challenging, especially as too many people are failing to properly isolate themselves.

China has only had some success by forcing an already compliant population to be completely locked down for months.

Short of a medical breakthrough that hasn't been possible with other viral infections globally I can't see this being eradicated at all, our way of life has changed for good, free movement and especially global tourism is gone.

I find it hard to believe that people are still thinking of this as some short term interruption to their lives that will just blow over in a week or two, it won't.

No, it won't blow over in a week or two, but if the economy doesn't get going again, there will be far bigger problems than a coronavirus pandemic. I think countries will essentially be forced to start up all the businesses again and in time, hospitals will be less overwhelmed.

I know it's way more serious than swine flu but that was all over the media for a while and then people moved onto the next thing. There was still swine flu, people still died from it, but the peak was over, a vaccine was developed and people pretty much just moved on. Zika was on the news every day for weeks, people were petrified of it, all these stories of deformed babies, and then they moved onto the next thing. Zika is still there, babies are still born deformed, but it didn't become as much of a problem as feared and there is less and less transmission.

Now, I know this is far more serious than the above illnesses, but the point is kind of the same in that it's simply impossible to curtail your entire life and live in fear for a sustained period of time. These initial lockdowns are to 'flatten the curve' and prevent hospitals being overwhelmed. Many of the deaths in Italy have been down to a lack of medical care rather than the illness itself. Young and healthy people are being asked to stay home so they don't spread it to older, more vulnerable people all at the same time. A period of quarantine should vastly reduce the possibility of the virus being passed on and result in far fewer cases after the quarantine period.

Why would it not become something which is still a threat, mostly to older and vulnerable people, but can be managed through careful hygiene and awareness?

LuasSimon

The last recession saw a big reduction in pub numbers , the length of this shutdown will be a big factor but you’d imagine many were already just hanging in there particularly in rural Ireland before all this .
Dublin is where all the jobs and youth are so should see all pubs reopening but you’d expect a lot are gone for good in rural Ireland .

RandomViewer

LuasSimon wrote: »

The last recession saw a big reduction in pub numbers , the length of this shutdown will be a big factor but you’d imagine many were already just hanging in there particularly in rural Ireland before all this .
Dublin is where all the jobs and youth are so should see all pubs reopening but you’d expect a lot are gone for good in rural Ireland .

The longer this goes on the more likely habits will change, pubs have been going downhill for the last 20 years and this will probably see publican cutting their losses and calling it a day.

trumptheman

LuasSimon wrote: »

The last recession saw a big reduction in pub numbers , the length of this shutdown will be a big factor but you’d imagine many were already just hanging in there particularly in rural Ireland before all this .
Dublin is where all the jobs and youth are so should see all pubs reopening but you’d expect a lot are gone for good in rural Ireland .

Any pub that is still open should be able to survive if they survived the recession in my opinion.

Dublin is also not also where all the jobs and youth are.

I live in a village with 900 people and both pubs do a great trade.

tdf7187

Sadly some will not re-open.

biko

Lots of smaller pubs won't have the savings to last a prolonged closure, we'll see who manages to bounce back.

Thrashssacre

Thomas house has set up a go fund me, so presumably without help from others they won't be re opening.

ZX7R

Both publicans and customers will have to change and adapte to a different way of life I'd imagine.
Culturally pubs in Ireland have all ready started to change.
Biggest change needed is binge drinking less 10 pints a night and go more like the continent 1 or 2 beers and go home.
Won't happen though it's ingrained in the Irish psyche to get wasted sadly

Some will not make it unfortunately. Though it won’t change people wanting to socialise no matter how much some people are craving that to happen. Not everyone wants to spend their free time walking up a hill or on a ****ing bicycle.

ZX7R

ZX7R wrote: »

Both publicans and customers will have to change and adapte to a different way of life I'd imagine.
Culturally pubs in Ireland have all ready started to change.
Biggest change needed is binge drinking less 10 pints a night and go more like the continent 1 or 2 beers and go home.
Won't happen though it's ingrained in the Irish psyche to get wasted sadly

Anyone causing no problems when they drink should be allowed have what they want and it be no concern of yours. Have your 1 or 2 and go home if you want and mind your own business.

Harry Palmr

This will claim a generation of already part time one man operations run by someone old enough to up a pension.

trumptheman

ZX7R wrote: »

Both publicans and customers will have to change and adapte to a different way of life I'd imagine.
Culturally pubs in Ireland have all ready started to change.
Biggest change needed is binge drinking less 10 pints a night and go more like the continent 1 or 2 beers and go home.
Won't happen though it's ingrained in the Irish psyche to get wasted sadly

If people in Ireland just went for one or two pints nearly every pub in Ireland would be shut down.

Profit on a pint outside of Dublin is about 2.30 and when you take heating, sky (upwards of 1000 a month), insurance, maintenance, staff, electric, no pub could sustain it.

Muahahaha

Id imagine it will be largely split between those publicans who own their building outright and those who lease it. The renters are going to be at the mercy of their landlords. I know a pretty successful publican in the city centre but all his pubs are leased from various landlords so he is in a sticky situation to keep them all open. Its in a landlords interest to try to find a solution but the other end of that is he has a mortgage to pay too so then you're asking banks for forbearance.

The other problem for pubs will be their customers who arent alcoholics but just drink there two or three nights a week. Some of that cohort might find that they like getting out for walks in the evenings rather than heading to the pub. It could be a watershed moment for a fair few regular pubs goers in the same way that New Years Eve 2000 was when people all threw house parties because of pubs charging money in and then they kept on with house parties for many occasions thereafter.

Beasty

Thread merged and title changed - all your public house questions in a single thread

Outlaw Pete

My guess would be that when the numbers of those being diagnosed starts to drop off steadily for 10-14 consecutive days, the pressure from the public will be overwhelming for the non-elderly and non-immune-compromised to get back to work.

In saying that, was out an hour ago in town (Dublin town) and there's a few places around where you can get a bite to eat that usually serve alcohol, so they might be the only places left to get a drink.

Podge201

Bog roll will be needed when people gorge on pints of porter and ****e their pants.

monty_python

The virus is spreading slower than expected, pubs will open again with strick new rules end of next week

Jinglejangle69

monty_python wrote: »

The virus is spreading slower than expected, pubs will open again with strick new rules end of next week

Not a chance.

Were only getting results from people tested 4-6 days ago.

We are far from out of the woods.

ShamNNspace

I think when they do open again opening times may have to be staggered

gmisk

I am going to guess a couple of months at least.
Maybe June, things are really only starting here I am afraid.
If we still have places like coffee shops heaving it is still going to spread rapidly.

ShamNNspace

ShamNNspace wrote: »

I think when they do open again opening times may have to be staggered

Would that not encourage more people to go to whichever one in the area is open at the time?