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Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

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    #152
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,953 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Who cares?

    But those that do re open need to fekkin look after their customers correctly going forward. I don't need to spell it out do I?

    Answers on a postcard now.


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    #153
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    monty_python wrote: »
    The virus is spreading slower than expected, pubs will open again with strick new rules end of next week

    You must be on something more than alcohol if you truly believe that. This isn`t a weather event we are dealing with. This virus outbreak is only starting to get bad. You are talking 5 to 6 months at a minimum before any pubs will be allowed to reopen.


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    #154
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Couple of months at least. We only have to look at countries where they've been slow to enforce a lockdown that the situation can escalate quite rapidly. If you want to chance your arm, though, get a few cans in and invite some friends over.


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    #155
    Panjandrums
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Panjandrums


    Clear message from the health minister. If you're open, you'll be closed and you might not open again.


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    #156
    denisor
    Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭denisor


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    You must be on something more than alcohol if you truly believe that. This isn`t a weather event we are dealing with. This virus outbreak is only starting to get bad. You are talking 5 to 6 months at a minimum before any pubs will be allowed to reopen.

    We'll still be having this conversation this day next year.


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    #157
    JP Liz V1
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    July or August
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    #158
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    denisor wrote: »
    We'll still be having this conversation this day next year.

    Sadly not all of us will.


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    #159
    Itssoeasy
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    SwissToni wrote: »
    Whenever they do reopen I wouldn’t fancy some of the first few pints of Guinness that have been sitting in the pipes.🤢

    Oh Jesus I'd forgotten that. Bring a good book.


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    #160
    sasta le
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    Thomas house has set up a go fund me, so presumably without help from others they won't be re opening.

    Is that an owed or leased pub?


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    #161
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    briany wrote: »
    If you want to chance your arm, though, get a few cans in and invite some friends over.

    If you want to chance your arm *AND* putt others needlessly at risk..


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    #162
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,281 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    A saturday evening without the boozer just isnt the same, theres only so much netflix and cans a man can take.


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    #163
    kenmm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    A saturday evening without the boozer just isnt the same, theres only so much netflix and cans a man can take.

    And its only first couple o weeks - wait until 10 weeks time..!

    (But hopefully more people will be alive and well..)


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    #164
    briany
    Registered Users Posts: 13,727 ✭✭✭✭briany


    kenmm wrote: »
    If you want to chance your arm *AND* putt others needlessly at risk..

    It's easier to control the risk of infection when it's a small group of friends having a get-together. They can easily communicate between themselves as to how they've physically feeling and if any of them are known to have been in contact with someone with Covid-19. Through information such as this, they could assess whether or not a get-together would be appropriate.

    Now, that's not a perfect way of doing things, I know. In terms of keeping down the spread, people should be minimizing social interactions, but this would be difficult to keep going long-term. More controlled socialising such as described above would be at least some kind of release valve on the pressure to reopen the pubs as soon as possible.


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    #165
    [Deleted User]
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    briany wrote: »
    It's easier to control the risk of infection when it's a small group of friends having a get-together. They can easily communicate between themselves as to how they've physically feeling and if any of them are known to have been in contact with someone with Covid-19. Through information such as this, they could assess whether or not a get-together would be appropriate.

    Now, that's not a perfect way of doing things, I know. In terms of keeping down the spread, people should be minimizing social interactions, but this would be difficult to keep going long-term. More controlled socialising such as described above would be at least some kind of release valve on the pressure to reopen the pubs as soon as possible.

    That’s delusional. People are highly infectious while feeling perfectly fine. Basically it’s just suiting yourself.


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    #166
    briany
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    That’s delusional. People are highly infectious while feeling perfectly fine. Basically it’s just suiting yourself.

    No, no. I did lay out some precautions that would be taken before any such get together, but it also depends on the situation. If people have been cooped up for 2 weeks with little to no social interaction, their own particular risk of being infected is minimal to nil. If you have a group of friends in that situation, then a small get together would be a low risk situation.

    People have to use their heads on this - social distancing is fine, not visiting relatives is fine to a point, but it's not sustainable that people won't be able to spend more than 15 minutes within close proximity for the foreseeable future. People will crack up.

    Yes, people can be carriers and spread the infection while feeling no symptoms, but after a certain point, life becomes unlivable if you have to go around every day treating every person you meet like they're carrying it.


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    #167
    [Deleted User]
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    briany wrote: »
    No, no. I did lay out some precautions that would be taken before any such get together, but it also depends on the situation. If people have been cooped up for 2 weeks with little to no social interaction, their own particular risk of being infected is minimal to nil. If you have a group of friends in that situation, then a small get together would be a low risk situation.

    People have to use their heads on this - social distancing is fine, not visiting relatives is fine to a point, but it's not sustainable that people won't be able to spend more than 15 minutes within close proximity for the foreseeable future. People will crack up.

    Yes, people can be carriers and spread the infection while feeling no symptoms, but after a certain point, life becomes unlivable if you have to go around every day treating every person you meet like they're carrying it.

    People won’t crack up unless they’re total fannies altogether. It’s for a few months and people need to grow the feck up. Even if it’s longer, lives are more important than such trivial stuff.


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    #168
    The Nal
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    Very good chance pubs won't open again in 2020. This could go on for another 14 months.


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    #169
    pgj2015
    Registered Users Posts: 9,198 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    The Nal wrote: »
    Very good chance pubs won't open again in 2020. This could go on for another 14 months.




    18 at least. :pac:


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    #170
    [Deleted User]
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    pgj2015 wrote: »
    18 at least. :pac:

    I’d say 5 years.


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    #171
    briany
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    People won’t crack up unless they’re total fannies altogether. It’s for a few months and people need to grow the feck up. Even if it’s longer, lives are more important than such trivial stuff.

    I've seen people complain that the pubs aren't open on Christmas day, never mind not being open for several months. If people cannot have some sort of social outlet just to relieve the pressure, then there's a good chance that social distancing will backfire as people rebel against it. Sure, a moratorium on socialising, if adhered to, would keep patient numbers down, but it's just not realistic to expect that to happen. Not much to do with people being fannies as being to do with people not being robots. In light of this, having 'low-risk' socialising would certainly be the better alternative to overwhelming pressure to reopen the pubs and the much higher risk that would present regarding an explosion in cases.


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    #172
    never_mind
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    I don’t think it’s fair how some people on this thread have dismissed how important social outlets are for people. I understand why they have been closed and I support that but you’d be living under a rock if you didn’t understand the mental health ramifications social distancing is going to have on people. We will lose people from suicide due to isolation...


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    #173
    [Deleted User]
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    never_mind wrote: »
    I don’t think it’s fair how some people on this thread have dismissed how important social outlets are for people. I understand why they have been closed and I support that but you’d be living under a rock if you didn’t understand the mental health ramifications social distancing is going to have on people. We will lose people from suicide due to isolation...

    We can’t be humouring mental health stuff at a time like this, lives are actually at stake.


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    #174
    never_mind
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    We can’t be humouring mental health stuff at a time like this, lives are actually at stake.

    So you don’t think that socially isolating people isn’t going to have knock-on MH effects? I’m not saying that we should stop this but I just think some of the posts above are a bit flippant about the importance of socialising for people in real terms.


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    #175
    [Deleted User]
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    never_mind wrote: »
    So you don’t think that socially isolating people isn’t going to have knock-on MH effects? I’m not saying that we should stop this but I just think some of the posts above are a bit flippant about the importance of socialising for people in real terms.

    No. Let’s be realistic, you just have to stay indoors. Nobody is asking anyone to jump off a cliff or anything.
    There are also numerous ways technology allows people to stay in contact these days. It’s not ideal but anyone crying mental health about it is just devaluing mental health altogether. If it already hadn’t been devalued enough over the past decade.


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    #176
    never_mind
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    No. Let’s be realistic, you just have to stay indoors. Nobody is asking anyone to jump off a cliff or anything.
    There are also numerous ways technology allows people to stay in contact these days. It’s not ideal but anyone crying mental health about it is just devaluing mental health altogether. If it already hadn’t been devalued enough over the past decade.

    Devaluing mental health over what is an absolute threat to it? It has already affected mine quite badly but I’m privileged to be able to afford 100euro sessions of online CBT. Go talk to someone who was already severely depressed and who’s lost their job and can’t afford support and then tell me what devaluing mental health means.


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    #177
    Heckler
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    Weather getting a bit better. Nothing wrong with having friends over in the back garden for a few drinks. Just keep the distance.


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    #178
    [Deleted User]
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    When they stopped cutting it off at 8/10 cases and started diagnosing everyone 2/10 fed up as having mental health issues, that’s what totally devalued it (and flooded the system for the real ones). Nobody needs to have the gumption to give themselves a shake and get on with things any more, it’s nearly a badge of honour these days.

    Not saying you’re one of these cases but anyway, on the main subject at hand; all these ones moaning about having to be in their own homes for a while would give you a pain in your hole. You’d think they were huddled around a few candles with no electricity. A lot of them need to remember that people can die from this.


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    #179
    [Deleted User]
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    Heckler wrote: »
    Weather getting a bit better. Nothing wrong with having friends over in the back garden for a few drinks. Just keep the distance.

    That’s going to be the hard part to police. Even if people report neighbours there probably won’t be anyone to come out and stop it when we have proper regulations in place.


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    #180
    never_mind
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    That’s going to be the hard part to police. Even if people report neighbours there probably won’t be anyone to come out and stop it when we have proper regulations in place.

    And you’d have people in your house to use your loo at some point so I dunno about having people over...


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    #181
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
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    never_mind wrote: »
    We will lose people from suicide due to isolation...


    And murders, murder suicides, domestic violence increases, child abuse and all those despicable things that are going to be amplified under current conditions.

    And that's before we even start to deal with the mental health and social problems as a result of this.


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