Remember the drowned boy, Alan Kurdi?

biko

Three Turkish men were sentenced this week to 125 years in jail for their part in the drowning of a boy whose death in 2015 became a worldwide symbol of the suffering caused by the Syrian war and the European refugee crisis it triggered.

Glad they got the bastards at last.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/middleeast/alan-kurdi-death-trial.html

Eric Cartman

I remember that image and everyone using it to let their guard down to whats really going on, this image was the real tipping point into the Swiss cheese border scenario that has allowed so many uneducated young men from religiously backwards cultures into Europe. Glad they found the barbaric people who aided this illegal trafficking of people.

Thelonious Monk

I forgot how brutal that picture was

Quantum Erasure

https://time.com/5798241/migrants-crossing-mediterranean-deaths/
United Nations: More Than 20,000 Migrants Have Died Crossing Mediterranean Sea Since 2014

BarnardsLoop

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I remember that image and everyone using it to let their guard down to whats really going on, this image was the real tipping point into the Swiss cheese border scenario that has allowed so many uneducated young men from religiously backwards cultures into Europe.

Good to see the usual people highlighting the real issue here and how showing any bit of concern for the suffering of other human beings is 'letting your guard down'.

Who cares about a dead child when you've got cheap political points to score! :pac:

Eric Cartman

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

Good to see the usual people highlighting the real issue here and how showing any bit of concern for the suffering of other human beings is 'letting your guard down'.

Who cares about a dead child when you've got cheap political points to score! :pac:

Who cares if theyre uneducated - its a dead child
Who cares if they believe in throwing gays off buildings - its a dead child
Who cares if its mostly men 18-30 - its a dead child

Even after its revealed that they were the reason the child was dead in the first place its still a big ‘let them all in because its a dead child’

What happened to that child at the hands of these migrants is absolutely awful and i am thoroughly glad that even some semblence of justice can be reached, but we have to remember the concocted effort that this image was used as a tool to argue for unchecked migration, the truth about what happened to that child should be a fortelling of why that was a terrible idea

ancapailldorcha

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Who cares if theyre uneducated - its a dead child
Who cares if they believe in throwing gays off buildings - its a dead child
Who cares if its mostly men 18-30 - its a dead child

Even after its revealed that they were the reason the child was dead in the first place its still a big ‘let them all in because its a dead child’

What happened to that child at the hands of these migrants is absolutely awful and i am thoroughly glad that even some semblence of justice can be reached, but we have to remember the concocted effort that this image was used as a tool to argue for unchecked migration, the truth about what happened to that child should be a fortelling of why that was a terrible idea

This is pathetic. Beyond a few f*ckwits from Twitter and the Guardian, nobody was doing that.

You're just using this child's death to score cheap political points.

The_Kew_Tour

Hope they die roaring.

Eric Cartman

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This is pathetic. Beyond a few f*ckwits from Twitter and the Guardian, nobody was doing that.

You're just using this child's death to score cheap political points.

it was used by most of the mainstream media to score political points and donations to the open borders champions.

one Brendan O'Neill wrote in The Spectator on 3 September 2015 that: "The global spreading of this snapshot ... is justified as a way of raising awareness about the migrant crisis. Please. It's more like a snuff photo for progressives, dead-child porn, designed not to start a serious debate about migration in the 21st century but to elicit a self-satisfied feeling of sadness among Western observers

there was no "what kind of monsters leave a dead child there like that" "what kind of animals do this to a child" headlines, only "let them all in, this is your fault westerners"

the left and the media started using this child as a political football, not me or politicians who have been bleeding for years about sensible immigration restriction.

Birneybau

Brendan O'Neill? :D:D

He's the almighty King of the contrarian bad takes.

ancapailldorcha

Eric Cartman wrote: »

it was used by most of the mainstream media to score political points and donations to the open borders champions.

one Brendan O'Neill wrote in The Spectator on 3 September 2015 that: "The global spreading of this snapshot ... is justified as a way of raising awareness about the migrant crisis. Please. It's more like a snuff photo for progressives, dead-child porn, designed not to start a serious debate about migration in the 21st century but to elicit a self-satisfied feeling of sadness among Western observers

there was no "what kind of monsters leave a dead child there like that" "what kind of animals do this to a child" headlines, only "let them all in, this is your fault westerners"

the left and the media started using this child as a political football, not me or politicians who have been bleeding for years about sensible immigration restriction.

A few cherrypicked headlines and the word of arguably the biggest cretin in the British commentariat? That's it? No actual evidence for this silly conspiracy theory?

Birneybau

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

A few cherrypicked headlines and the word of arguably the biggest cretin in the British commentariat? That's it? No actual evidence for this silly conspiracy theory?

You expect better? I have to be a bit like Jose Mourinho and say nothing as I got a slap on the wrist last time.

ancapailldorcha

Birneybau wrote: »

You expect better? I have to be a bit like Jose Mourinho and say nothing as I got a slap on the wrist last time.

Here he is advocating riots:

https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1177549862348480512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1177549862348480512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D111361238

suicide_circus

poor little guy

pinkyeye

Can someone PLEASE PLEASE correct the title of this thread to at least reflect that he was a boy not buy???????

ShatterAlan

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I remember that image and everyone using it to let their guard down to whats really going on, this image was the real tipping point into the Swiss cheese border scenario that has allowed so many uneducated young men from religiously backwards cultures into Europe. Glad they found the barbaric people who aided this illegal trafficking of people.

Wouldn't you say that believing in supernatural episodes, angels, demons, miracles and all that goes with that trunk is backwards?

Religiously "backwards" Is a little oxymoronic.

But I was just wondering...perhaps you could enlighten me/us. How do you know if the people who have been found culpable of this revolting incident even of a religion or a sect or a nationality?

What religion or ethnicity are the people who smuggle people across the US/Mexican border to then rob them or hold their families back in Guatemala to ransom only to sell Maria or Juanita into prostitution? Are they religiously backward? What about the truckloads of Bulgarian "models" and "nannies" brought into Amsterdam, and Hamburg and London and even Dublin and advertised as escorts by gangs? Are they are "religiously" backwards?

What about the alcohol swilling cutthroats who load people onto rafts at a grand a pop and tow them out into the Med and tell them the current will wash them up onto the glossy shores of Marbella or Malta. Religiously backwards? Or just scumbags?

Eric Cartman

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Wouldn't you say that believing in supernatural episodes, angels, demons, miracles and all that goes with that trunk is backwards?

Religiously "backwards" Is a little oxymoronic.

That stuff is also backwards, luckily enough most of the strange people who believe in healing crystals and fairy rings dont use them as a justification to murder women and gay people

pjohnson

BarnardsLoop wrote: »

Good to see the usual people highlighting the real issue here and how showing any bit of concern for the suffering of other human beings is 'letting your guard down'.

Who cares about a dead child when you've got cheap political points to score! :pac:

Eric was wishing the coronavirus on a journalist yesterday.


Can anyone be suprised by any of his antics by now?

ShatterAlan

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Who cares if theyre uneducated - its a dead child
Who cares if they believe in throwing gays off buildings - its a dead child
Who cares if its mostly men 18-30 - its a dead child

Even after its revealed that they were the reason the child was dead in the first place its still a big ‘let them all in because its a dead child’

[B What happened to that child at the hands of these migrants B] is absolutely awful and i am thoroughly glad that even some semblence of justice can be reached, but we have to remember the concocted effort that this image was used as a tool to argue for unchecked migration, the truth about what happened to that child should be a fortelling of why that was a terrible idea

Migrants? I read from the article that it was 3 Turkish men who were held accountable, charged, convicted and punished.

So WHO are the migrants? Turks? Why would Turks be going over the sea in the OPPOSITE direction of Europe to bring people then in the other direction if they were "migrants" ?

Or are they not migrants but traffickers?

ShatterAlan

Eric Cartman wrote: »

That stuff is also backwards, luckily enough most of the strange people who believe in healing crystals and fairy rings dont use them as a justification to murder women and gay people

So I'll ask once again since you brought it up.

Why would you associate religion or backwardness to those who facilitated the death of this little boy?

weldoninhio

biko wrote: »

Glad they got the bastards at last.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/middleeast/alan-kurdi-death-trial.html

His father should be in jail with them. It was his vanity that killed the boy.

weldoninhio

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Who cares if theyre uneducated - its a dead child
Who cares if they believe in throwing gays off buildings - its a dead child
Who cares if its mostly men 18-30 - its a dead child

Even after its revealed that they were the reason the child was dead in the first place its still a big ‘let them all in because its a dead child’

What happened to that child at the hands of these migrants is absolutely awful and i am thoroughly glad that even some semblence of justice can be reached, but we have to remember the concocted effort that this image was used as a tool to argue for unchecked migration, the truth about what happened to that child should be a fortelling of why that was a terrible idea

Who cares if the child was already living in a safe country, his father had a job, they had a paid for apartment etc. - Its a dead child.

Funny how people going on about how women and homosexuals are treated are by religions, are also usually to be found saying all negative ****e about them in threads opened regarding issues affecting women and homosexuals.

RandomName2

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This is pathetic. Beyond a few f*ckwits from Twitter and the Guardian, nobody was doing that.

You're just using this child's death to score cheap political points.

Angela Merkel literally let in a million people into Germany off the back of that photo. Calling out people as using a child's death to score cheap political points by calling out people for using child's death to score cheap political points is getting pretty meta.

ancapailldorcha

RandomName2 wrote: »

Angela Merkel literally let in a million people into Germany off the back of that photo. Calling out people as using a child's death to score cheap political points by calling out people for using child's death to score cheap political points is getting pretty meta.

So she just saw a photo and unilaterally allowed a million people in? Seems unlikely to me.

Eric Cartman

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

So she just saw a photo and unilaterally allowed a million people in? Seems unlikely to me.

The bbc and many other sources widely acknowledge that photos publication as the tipping point in the language changing from ‘migrants’ to ‘refugees’ on top of politicians referencing it to agree to resettle or increasing the amount agreed to resettle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37257869

Why are you determined to downplay its significance or impact ?

ancapailldorcha

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The bbc and many other sources widely acknowledge that photos publication as the tipping point in the language changing from ‘migrants’ to ‘refugees’ on top of politicians referencing it to agree to resettle or increasing the amount agreed to resettle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37257869

Why are you determined to downplay its significance or impact ?

I'm questioning the idea that Angela Merkel saw the photo and decided to allow a million migrants into Germany as a result.

I would also ask why you're determined to treat it as if it's proof of some sort of open-door immigration promoting illuminati.

Eric Cartman

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm questioning the idea that Angela Merkel saw the photo and decided to allow a million migrants into Germany as a result.

I would also ask why you're determined to treat it as if it's proof of some sort of open-door immigration promoting illuminati.

Not everything has to be a conspiracy , im not a conspiracy theorist, i dont think its george soros or the jews or anything , its straight forward, the press push an emotiive picture, because its what sells and the NGO’s / political groups that have an interest in open borders and diversity jump on it with PR companies to present changing national feeling to their advantage. Its straight forward standard playbook stuff.

Germany has a touchy relationship with how it treats minorities, political pressure on merkel to allow them in would have been immense after that

ancapailldorcha

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Not everything has to be a conspiracy , im not a conspiracy theorist, i dont think its george soros or the jews or anything , its straight forward, the press push an emotiive picture, because its what sells and the NGO’s / political groups that have an interest in open borders and diversity jump on it with PR companies to present changing national feeling to their advantage. Its straight forward standard playbook stuff.=

That's fair enough but the press have been manipulating people since their inception. I don't see what's so special about a few arts and social sciences graduates working at the Guardian and similar outlets.

Wibbs

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'm questioning the idea that Angela Merkel saw the photo and decided to allow a million migrants into Germany as a result.

Agreed, she didn't. No conspiracy going on either, but it was a fortuitous bit of "marketing" of sorts for the migrant crisis that was unfolding and for those who wanted to bring more in.

ancapailldorcha

Wibbs wrote: »

Agreed, she didn't. No conspiracy going on either, but it was a fortuitous bit of "marketing" of sorts for the migrant crisis that was unfolding and for those who wanted to bring more in.

Who are these groups and individuals who specifically want to import vast quantities of people and why do they want to do so? The rush from helping someone flee a warzone is going to dissipate pretty damn quick when they're still there in a month needing food, shelter and other provisions.