CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

mcmoustache

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Humans are social creatures- social distancing won’t last a year

We'll work around it. Humans are also very innovative. We can socialise while distancing. A simple example is how I go meet my sister's family up the road - I stay well outside the gate while they stay inside. Sure there's no hugs with my little nieces but we can still have a chat.

IamtheWalrus

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Sat tight for 10 days working from home and generally keeping a social distance having tracked the spread since January. Left the apartment Friday to go meet best friend for dinner in a quiet spot.

Person has been sent for testing showing all the symptoms.

Feel like facepalming myself as I had some reservations in the first place as the same person annoyed me with their it's only a flu attitude.

Ffs stupid. Won't be leaving here for 2 weeks at the minimum regardless. I'm living alone so no problem there.

We've all made mistakes. Don't be too hard on yourself. You're isolating for 2 weeks, all you can do.

Ace2007

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

Why - someone else whose child is in posted that it was true

murpho999

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A ridiculous unproven statement... It's spreading from both !

It's not really. Your statement is untrue. See below.

Of those for whom transmission status is known: community transmission accounts for 47%, close contact accounts for 23%, travel abroad accounts for 31%.
Official Numbers reported today

So how do you explain that. Travel abroad means Irish people who went abroad and came home and we can't stop that.

I doubt that there's many foreigners coming in.

Business meetings are cancelled, hotels are empty, tourist attractions shut down, Patrick's Day was cancelled.

No reason for people to come here.
Also they're staying at home too.

The claims about foreigners and shutting down airports is just xenophobia.

Strazdas

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

You're completely wrong there unfortunately. Check the HSE website. You are not supposed to go for walks alone if you are self isolating.

Really? That directly contradicts what I read in one of the Irish papers - 'self isolation' and 'quarantine' are meant to be two different things

Edit : you're quite correct on what the HSE are saying, full quarantine even if you 'think' you might have the virus

fritzelly

fritzelly wrote: »

What societal changes do people think will happen when this is all over? Cannot imagine everyone suddenly starts wearing face masks like some Asian countries.
Or do we go back to the same old thing?
It's shown lots of people, for example, can easily work from home - is there any need for 10s of thousands of people commuting to work every day
Will hospitals build in to their infrastructure more safeguards against future pandemics (we still don't know if this thing is going to continue to circulate like the flu or mutate)

Any other thoughts? Normally normalcy prevails in this thread at this time of night...

I was in Japan for work a few years ago and asked why some people wear masks on the street. The answer I was given at the time was that it was mainly people with allergies who did so, and it was very few people who wear them as far as I seen.

Mervyn Skidmore

Strazdas wrote: »

Really? That directly contradicts what I read in one of the Irish papers - 'self isolation' and 'quarantine' are meant to be two different things

Forget about the papers and go directly to the source, www.hse.ie.

There are two guidelines, self isolation and restricted movement.

murpho999

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Sat tight for 10 days working from home and generally keeping a social distance having tracked the spread since January. Left the apartment Friday to go meet best friend for dinner in a quiet spot.

Person has been sent for testing showing all the symptoms.

Feel like facepalming myself as I had some reservations in the first place as the same person annoyed me with their it's only a flu attitude.

Ffs stupid. Won't be leaving here for 2 weeks at the minimum regardless. I'm living alone so no problem there.

Don't beat yourself up, it's hard to stay in.

Hopefully your friend's test is negative and you'll be fine.

Marje

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1242585764308946947?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1242585764308946947&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Ftwitter.com%252FSimonHarrisTD%252Fstatus%252F1242585764308946947%26widget%3DTweet

fr336

Strazdas wrote: »

Same for all of us : not being able to interact normally with other people is really weird

I don't even have much of a social life outside work but it's just plain depressing seeing how everyone else is having just as little fun as I am! Normality is underrated.

JP Liz V1

dan786 wrote: »

The first known death of a child due to the novel coronavirus in the United States has been reported, despite the disease not typically proving severe for juveniles.

The death of a "youth under the age of 18" from Lancaster, just north of Los Angeles, was confirmed in a statement by county health officials.

I think I read of an 18 year old in the UK also a fatality

The symptoms seem to change daily, it is confusing, I assume GPs will decide if you need a test or not by telephone consult

I think high temperature fever and shortness of breath are the two big main symptoms

tuxy

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

boardise

fritzelly wrote: »

I wish them the worst

Hopefully Darwin's law takes care of these retards.

Ace2007

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think I read of an 18 year old in the UK also a fatality

The symptoms seem to change daily, it is confusing, I assume GPs will decide if you need a test or not by telephone consult

I think high temperature fever and shortness of breath are the two big main symptoms

Lads being realistic about this, even with the flu there are more than likely 18 year olds dying somewhere in the world.

JP Liz V1

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Has anybody noticed a huge increase in self-appointed smart people recently?

Yes my sister calling me one and telling me to shut the fcuk up as I a head wrecker

Martina1991

flashforward wrote:

Right now we are only getting results from 1350 swabs per day. This is pathetic and we will only see ~5 >20% of these testing positive which means unless we take the finger out of the arse we are blind to what's really going on

We're testing more per capita than a lot of countries.

By what standard do you consider it "pathetic".

You dont know what you're talking about.

ACitizenErased

Marje wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1242585764308946947?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1242585764308946947&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Ftwitter.com%252FSimonHarrisTD%252Fstatus%252F1242585764308946947%26widget%3DTweet

Fair play to Simon. He's not well and doing a fantastic job.

greenpilot

Ace2007 wrote: »

Why - someone else whose child is in posted that it was true

Link? Because if it was indeed true it would certainly be newsworthy so as to impress upon people to adhere to guidelines.

elperello

boardise wrote: »

Hopefully Darwin's law takes care of these retards.

I know we are all on edge but it's not nice to wish harm on others.

BLIZZARD7

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in big trouble?

France looks like it's getting worse still. The US and UK will both be in trouble soon. Netherlands not exactly looking fantastic.

Germany - hard to tell what's really going on there re deaths.

froog

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

if it scares morons into staying the **** away from other people i'm all for it to be honest.

bekker

A question which doesn't to have been asked is why exactly are we testing.

What is the purpose?

If it is ,

to evaluate the extent of penetration of the virus then statistically valid, repeated randomised testing of the population the best answer.

to identify and rapidly treat those who are displaying symptoms of serious reaction then fast GP triaging, fast testing and fast processing.

to test the cohort who are statistically most vulnerable then selection by existing medical record is the best answer, but to test 400,000+?

to reassure the population then the present strategy seems to be effective, but meaningless as a strategy for any of the above.

woohoo!!!

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

France, then UK. Switzerland and Holland also.

eldamo

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

USA all the way tough guy. Hooooooooo.

Yeah, if trump gets his way they are proper feckeroonied.

Steve F

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I can not wait until this is all over !

Yes indeed...we all feel the same.
Sobering thought though is we are "probably" only at the beginning of a long haul.A couple of points
1. A successful vaccine is approximately 12 to 18 months away.
2.Social Distancing is here till then because if we don't keep it up the virus cases will Skyrocket again.
3.Experts keeping a close eye on what happens in China now restrictions are starting to be relaxed,this will be key to what happens here and elsewhere.
4.Two major developments on our side could be the use of Antivirals that kill the virus in infected patients or Covid19 mutates into a less potent strain and becomes less harmful to humans.
5.A hope that warmer weather slows the spread.

We live in hope

JP Liz V1

tuxy wrote: »

Spain is in for a really though time for the next few weeks ( I know it was difficult for them already )

Any signs of what country is the next one in major trouble?

France and US numbers getting higher

Corkgirl20

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fair play to Simon. He's not well and doing a fantastic job.

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

amadangomor

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Humans are social creatures- social distancing won’t last a year

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

ACitizenErased

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

Yeah he has Crohn's disease. He always looks a bit ill.

Mwengwe

Steve F wrote: »

Yes indeed...we all feel the same.
Sobering thought though is we are "probably" only at the beginning of a long haul.A couple of points
1. A successful vaccine is approximately 12 to 18 months away.
2.Social Distancing is here till then because if we don't keep it up the virus cases will Skyrocket again.
3.Experts keeping a close eye on what happens in China now restrictions are starting to be relaxed,this will be key to what happens here and elsewhere.
4.Two major developments on our side could be the use of Antivirals that kill the virus in infected patients or Covid19 mutates into a less potent strain and becomes less harmful to humans.
5.A hope that warmer weather slows the spread.

We live in hope

It's too soon to say 2. Social Distancing is here for 12-18 months. We should brace ourselves for that possibility but we'll see.

JP Liz V1

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

What do you mean by not well? His Crohn’s disease ?
I thought he looked very pale today.

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

boardise

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Has anybody noticed a huge increase in self-appointed smart people recently?

Whose advice to follow ?
On the one hand I can heed the statements of highly qualified Public Health experts or ,on the other , I can row in with someone who happened to stumble on a celebrity tweet and who has a problem computing percentages.
Hmm, tough one.

froog

it's nearly a month since first death in the US and no signs of any real large scale social distancing or lockdowns. by this stage other countries had been doing these things for at least a week or more. it's going to get real ugly there in the next few weeks.

Mwengwe

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Has anybody noticed a huge increase in self-appointed smart people recently?

I think a lot of people were always one step away from it, and that step was being forced to sit at home with a computer all day

Silverfish

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

It could well be true - there's a number of kids under 5 with it

Corkgirl20

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

Bless him, they must be under a huge amount of pressure. I can’t imagine they can sleep well at night under the stress. They’re all doing a good job to be fair.

What Username Guidelines

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yeah he has Crohn's disease. He always looks a bit ill.

I’m getting about 4 hrs sleep a night with the stress of this whole thing, and I’m working from home at a laptop.

Can’t imagine how he’s still standing at this stage, with a long way to go. Fair play to him.

JP Liz V1

I nearly told myself to fcuk off today as too close, reflection in a shop window on my way to the pharmacy

fritzelly

elperello wrote: »

I know we are all on edge but it's not nice to wish harm on others.

They get the virus, turns serious, takes a bed away from someone who is not an idiot

Quantum Erasure

greenpilot wrote: »

"2 Children under 5 in hospital in Ireland with virus .no mum or dad allowed.imagin .
STAY HOME.what if it was your child ."

Just a sample of the utter ****e being shared around Facebook at the moment by bottom feeders.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/f0c391-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-21/

Hospitalised by Age Group

age range, no., percent
.... >5..... 2 ..... 1%
. 5 - 14 ... 1 ..... 1%
15 - 24 ... 9 ..... 5%
25 - 34 ... 24 ... 14%
35 - 44 ... 18 ... 10%
45 - 54 ... 28 ... 16%
55 - 64 ... 31 ... 18%
.... 65+ ... 60 ... 35%
*all statistics measured at midnight 19 March 2020

dougm1970

amadangomor wrote: »

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

(note - the quote was referring to someone who posted about a year or more social distancing)

magma69

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

Phil Leotardo wanted to fcuk a woman for the twenty years he was in the can but he compromised and jerked off into a tissue.

jay0109

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

It's easy to do if your married

MipMap

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

If I could get it once a year ............

elperello

fritzelly wrote: »

They get the virus, turns serious, takes a bed away from someone who is not an idiot

I know people might say I should toughen up but then it's easy to be tough on here.

Seriously, I don't wish harm on anyone who hasn't harmed me or mine.

questionmark?

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The stress he is under too is huge, fair play to him

It doesn't matter how anyone voted as this is above politics but the current government, caretaker or not, are doing a great job along with the HSE. If you don't agree just look to the left and right of Ireland for comparison.

Strazdas

CNN reporting that Louisiana has become an unlikely hotspot. Case numbers rocketing up and 26 people have already died.

Fr Tod Umptious

froog wrote: »

it's nearly a month since first death in the US and no signs of any real large scale social distancing or lockdowns. by this stage other countries had been doing these things for at least a week or more. it's going to get real ugly there in the next few weeks.

There certainly is social distancing and the same restrictions that we have here.
But because the US is federal states may implement different levels of it.

In Massachusetts certainly schools are shut about as long as ours are, non essential businesses closed, bats, cafes etc closed, people working from home, just the same as here.

iguana

Ok, so I went back and started reading some of the earlier threads. And back on thread two there was a little speculation about the really bad flu that was going around at Christmas with very, very similar symptoms to Covid-19. So out of curiosity I started googling and lots of countries were either reporting an unexpectedly early and large flu surge from December 27-31st 2019 or, like Malaysia denying claims they were experiencing a surge in flu cases.

If Corononavirus was spreading in China from some point in November but not detected until the last week of January. Is it really so impossible that what was being assumed was a surge in flu cases on December 27th in the UK, Ireland and the US was at least in part an early spread of Covid 19? Were we really having an 'especially severe' flu outbreak in many regions of the world where "An early start to the season has left 2,092 people in England needing treatment for the contagious virus so far in 2019. By comparison, there were just 256 hospital admissions with flu at the same point 12 months ago." Right at the same time as a global pandemic of a virus which presents with flu like symptoms was already underway for several weeks?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hospitals-breaking-point-after-21172185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/639365
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/12/552217/influenza-infections-still-within-normal-parameters-says-health-dg
https://time.com/5758953/flu-season-2019-2020/

Steve F

amadangomor wrote: »

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

Yes.
Even before this outbreak I had begun to notice a particular trait in some people where they couldn't tolerate a moment's inconvenience.
Spoilt beyond belief.You know the type I mean?Ones that would have a breakdown because their phone battery didn't last as long as they thought it would or their wasn't enough cheese in their Big Mac.
How dare we expect them to stay away from people for a few weeks to save lives?
The temerity of it
NB This isn't aimed at any particular race or nationality.I have noted it nearly everywhere I have been