CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

is_that_so

kalkat2002 wrote: »

As per spanish newspaper looks like the fast test bought to china is useless...only 30% accuracy
They will open an aliexpres dispute.
What a business is doing China!!

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-coronavirus-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html?ssm=whatsapp

That question was asked, at least twice last night, and they commented of the accuracy of tests. They still keep an eye on what's going on in the area.

Wombatman

Couple of questions.

Why no case numbers for England yesterday?

Does anybody else think meet ups with up to 4 people, that you don't live with, is defeating the purpose?

wakka12

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Sad news, i know,

But you would think RTE would be accurate with reporting current events?


" Last night, the Department of Health announced that two more patients diagnosed with Covid-19 had died.

It brings the total number of deaths in Ireland to nine.

There were an additional 235 confirmed cases of the virus in Ireland and 1,564 in total."



So are there 235 cases? or 1564 cases?

Which is it?

That seems very clear to me

yourdeadwright

You'd imagine by next week or the week after you we will see mostly just cases where people have picked it up from there own families member

Surely at this stage everyone people are avoiding anyone who is not a family member only for visit to the shops and being extremely careful while they are there ,

Beasty

gabeeg wrote: »

By testing a very narrow band of people

We went into this effectively testing on request - how could a GP turn down someone who was worried and claimed they had symptoms?

There is now an acceptance this was completely unworkable. Now we have much narrower testing protocols, probably much more in line with elsewhere. hence a lot more will go undiagnosed. hence it appears as if we are not getting as many positives as we were

Of course Leo predicted possibly 15,000 confirmed cases by the end of the month. We've barely carried out that many tests to date. If w tested all those seeking under prior guidelines we may have ended up with 150,000 tests and 15,000 positives. All conjecture of course but moving the goalposts often has an impact on the "result"

Quantum Erasure

wakka12 wrote: »

In the notifications at the bottom of the worldometres page not the table

I know they do it for first deaths in a country, or region

ZX7R

kilkenny31 wrote: »

The ESRI prediction is not worse case scenario. It is their prediction. They say the economy will shrink by "At Least 7.1%" and that those predictions are based on the economy returning to growth in Q3 and Q4 which is highly doubtful.

Read there full report not the little article report in the news

is_that_so

Jin luk wrote: »

Its under 20% because they cant process the tests quick enough restrictions theyve taken wont be seen for a few week

We shall see. They seem "encouraged" every day!

Beasty

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Sad news, i know,

But you would think RTE would be accurate with reporting current events?


" Last night, the Department of Health announced that two more patients diagnosed with Covid-19 had died.

It brings the total number of deaths in Ireland to nine.

There were an additional 235 confirmed cases of the virus in Ireland and 1,564 in total."



So are there 235 cases? or 1564 cases?

Which is it?

235 additional cases reported yesterday bringing the total to date to 1,564

And funnily enough that's exactly how it's been interpreted in this thread, the thread title, and the daily summary sticky in the forum

ShyMets

yourdeadwright wrote: »

You'd imagine by next week or the week after you we will see mostly just cases where people have picked it up from there own families member

Surely at this stage everyone people are avoiding anyone who is not a family member only for visit to the shops and being extremely careful while they are there ,

Unfortunately not. A lot of people are still going to their place of work. So there is the possibility to contract the virus there or on public transport if they have to use it

yourdeadwright

Just a quick one.,
I was thinking would your green and black bins be a hot spot for catching the virus ?
The bin men who collect them must touch hundreds of bin handles on there rounds then you go out and bring it in by the handle ,
Just something people might have looked past ,

Blueshoe

ShyMets wrote: »

Unfortunately not. A lot of people are still going to their place of work. So there is the possibility to contract the virus there or on public transport if they have to use it

I'm in work as per usual. As are many many people

Quantum Erasure

Hospital management of confirmed HCID cases
Once an HCID has been confirmed by appropriate laboratory testing, cases in England should be transferred rapidly to a designated HCID Treatment Centre.

Cases of COVID-19 are no longer managed by HCID treatment centres only. All healthcare workers managing possible and confirmed cases should follow the updated national infection and prevention (IPC) guidance for COVID-19,

leavingirl wrote: »

The UK have completely downgraded the status of COVID19.

"As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is NO LONGER considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK."

A complete downgrade. We should see a removal of the lockdown and everyone can go back to work.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#definition-of-hcid

Probably more to do with the management of the situation, than anything else

Boggles

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Sad news, i know,

But you would think RTE would be accurate with reporting current events?


" Last night, the Department of Health announced that two more patients diagnosed with Covid-19 had died.

It brings the total number of deaths in Ireland to nine.

There were an additional 235 confirmed cases of the virus in Ireland and 1,564 in total."



So are there 235 cases? or 1564 cases?

Which is it?

That seems pretty clear to me.

splinter65

Lots of wage cuts on the way again for public sector workers. Lots of SW cuts too. The left wing politicians who are crowing today about how obvious it is today that “socialism works” won’t later on stand up in the Dail and admit that the big spending that’s going on today has to be paid for down the line. No, they’ll stand up and roar and shout about savage cuts to vulnerable workers.

Seamai

Blueshoe wrote: »

I'm in work as per usual. As are many many people

Do you work in an area that's considered essential?

iwillyeah1234

latest UK figures:

9,500 cases , up from 8,022 yesterday

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

gabeeg

murpho999 wrote: »

Our testing process is well ahead of other countries.

Also, look at the death rate and numbers of people in ICU. Still low.

Numbers are going to increase but we seem to be doing well at this stage.

Yeah our testing process is well ahead of some countries, and yet it's miles behind the countries that are dealing with this crisis well.

Due to our limited capacity to test I completely understand the need to prioritise those that are most likely to have the virus.
However, you can't read the testing criteria and not see that countless people with covid will not meet the criteria, and subsequently not be tested and their contacts will not be traced. Hopefully they'll all stay in quarantine.

From a shambolic start, our testing process has improved, but it's a long way from giving us a clear picture of what's going on out there. And therefore drawing any confidence from the relatively low daily number of cases is I feel misplaced.

I agree that the ICU and mortality rate is of some comfort though

Fr_Dougal

Beasty wrote: »

We went into this effectively testing on request - how could a GP turn down someone who was worried and claimed they had symptoms?

There is now an acceptance this was completely unworkable. Now we have much narrower testing protocols, probably much more in line with elsewhere. hence a lot more will go undiagnosed. hence it appears as if we are not getting as many positives as we were

Of course Leo predicted possibly 15,000 confirmed cases by the end of the month. We've barely carried out that many tests to date. If w tested all those seeking under prior guidelines we may have ended up with 150,000 tests and 15,000 positives. All conjecture of course but moving the goalposts often has an impact on the "result"

If anything our confirmed cases should increase dramatically as now we’re testing people with real symptoms and not the hypochondriacs.

Same number of tests carried out, more confirmed cases.

DOCARCH

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

latest UK figures:

9,500 cases , up from 8,022 yesterday

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

That is actually yesterdays figure. No figures today, yet.

wakka12

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

latest UK figures:

9,500 cases , up from 8,022 yesterday

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

That is from yesterday. Uk release their figures in the afternoon for Wales, Scotland NI and then around 5 oclock for England, UK as a whole

iwillyeah1234

is_that_so wrote: »

Are you doing video calls with people? Finding that is both enjoyable and necessary all round.

working from home here ( company has gone into lockdown for past 2 weeks) - our regular daily calls are now fully video ( Microsoft Teams).

really does improve the morale to actually see your other team mates.

caveat emptor

Thanks. There is a Tesco. Similar delivery situation i.e next month. I've not tried the click and collect. Still about a week wait time. I'm ok on long conservation for 2 weeks. Just need fruit veg and meat really. Have a little fella and mrs who was expecting this delivery. Me of all people was saying it would be grand for past 2 weeks on this front. Not filled with confidence now but trying to keep a straight face on it for their sake.

Again I'm not worried about today. I'm worried about next fortnight. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it though.

Real Life

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Just a quick one.,
I was thinking would your green and black bins be a hot spot for catching the virus ?
The bin men who collect them must touch hundreds of bin handles on there rounds then you go out and bring it in by the handle ,
Just something people might have looked past ,

They would, I got an email from our bin company about this. Asking to please clean the bin handles before leaving them out and after bringing them back in etc but this is definitely something you should be aware of yourself and washing your hands properly after it.

Rob A. Bank

First case of Covid-19 identified in Cox's Bazaar, Bangladesh, which is right beside some huge Rohingya refugee camps. The medical system is rudimentary and with over 1/2 million people living on top of one another... The outcome will be disastrous.

A lot of cities in the Third World are surrounded by overcrowded shanty towns like this, yet another disaster in the making caused by this damn virus.

iwillyeah1234

wakka12 wrote: »

That is from yesterday. Uk release their figures in the afternoon for Wales, Scotland NI and then around 5 oclock for England, UK as a whole

yes indeed - the England figures tend to come out around 5pm each day.

those stats are what they are as of right now this morning.

cfuserkildare

No choice for us,

Desk-Side Support can't really work remotely.

boardlady

KiKi III wrote: »

I did that yesterday and I did have a good day, but there's only so long I can ignore reality for.

I think it's the lack of human interaction that's getting to me. I see my housemate for about two hours in the evening in between him coming from work and going to bed and otherwise not a soul in about 8 days now.

Lots of whatsapp messages etc, but it's not the same.

Can you arrange to meet a friend outdoors? Like at the beach or park or even your garden wall? You each bring your own thermos cup and snack and sit/stand at least 2m apart and have a catch up? I am doing this with family.

Beasty

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

If anything our confirmed cases should increase dramatically as now we’re testing people with real symptoms and not the hypochondriacs.

Same number of tests carried out, more confirmed cases.

They are actually upping the number of tests as well, but also by eliminating the "backlog" we will get much more up to date information

However the "exponentiality" of the "curve" will be diminished

If we had eaten into the backlog by upping the testing clearly we would have shown a much starker "curve" and by the time(/if) they did catch up a hell of a lot more confirmed cases

SleetAndSnow

Spain at +6673 and +442 deaths already, with more numbers to come.during the day most likely as usual.

Shocking.