CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

Sephiroth_dude

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Same warnings apply folks, please take note of them, thanks.


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Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

OK

A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

Any questions PM me

Beasty wrote: »

I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight

Beasty wrote: »

A reminder to everyone

It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate

Beasty wrote: »

A few reminders:

1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

Beasty wrote: »

I will say this yet again, but from now on not only will your posts be deleted, but you may well get additional sanctions applied

It is against site rules to request or offer any medical advice. If you have symptoms phone your doctor, and do not try and get a diagnosis from some randomer on the internet. Do not ask what medication to take here

Any questions, please PM me

All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly

Funsterdelux

Hi

ShamoBuc

Quiet in here....

Gods Gift

First in.

spookwoman

Mod there are 2 threads for today https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062757

sideswipe

source

kingshankly

First page will take that

GM228

Discodog wrote: »

The Ibuprofen questions are the result of this study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28005149

Pneumonia is often a secondary infection with Covid 19

Covid-19 is a pneumonia.

Quantum Erasure

Coronavirus Fact Check: What do we know about ibuprofen and COVID-19?

So what does the World Health Organization (WHO) say?
On Tuesday, spokesperson Christian Lindmeier told a Geneva press conference that suspected patients should not take ibuprofen without consulting a doctor first.

In a statement to Euronews, the WHO said they are “aware of concerns on the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, such as ibuprofen, for the treatment of fever for people with COVID-19.”

The WHO added that are quickly reviewing the reports, they were not aware of a “published clinical or population-based data” on the matter.

“We gathering further evidence on this issue before making a formal recommendation”.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-fact-check-what-do-we-know-about-ibuprofen-and-covid-19

Gods Gift

So what yall think about this fecking virus thing?

youandme13

Do you think we'll ever get a break down of numbers in each county??

statesaver

Is it over, finished ?

tuxy

GM228 wrote: »

Covid-19 is a pneumonia.

No, it can cause viral pneumonia in some cases.

Blueshoe

That SuperValu as on the radio is annoying me. Something along the lines of we are here for you and we love our community.

In reality : come to our shop for your panic buying. Don't go to Lidl or tesco

walshb

8.45 briefing?

TheValeyard

youandme13

walshb wrote: »

8.45 briefing?

Yep 8:45pm tonight

Sweet.Science

Our stats seem pretty good. Did we get a less severe strain of the virus or what?

froog

i'd be happy with a good clatter of recovereds tonight.

branie2

McDonalds and Supermacs are just doing takeways at the moment

walshb

Anybody else getting fed up with the social media nonsense with people and their Covid vids? The world littered with attention seeking..

daheff

walshb wrote: »

8.45 briefing?

So they can have the numbers for the 9 o'clock news.

Funkfield

Funsterdelux

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Our stats seem pretty good. Did we get a less severe strain of the virus or what?

Its early days

Boggles

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Our stats seem pretty good. Did we get a less severe strain of the virus or what?

GM228

tuxy wrote: »

No, it can cause viral pneumonia in some cases.

No, the virus is SARS-CoV-2, the resulting disease is COVID-19 which according to the WHO is a "pneumonia of unknown cause".

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/events-as-they-happen

WHO wrote:

Summary

A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019

Most media report people being diagnosed with the COVID-19 virus which is actually incorrect.

Blueshoe

Our lad.

Kidchameleon

Deleted User wrote: »

Trump can literally do no wrong. Is this the desired response?

No, I'm trying to find out what is so offensive about calling a virus that originated IN CHINA as a "Chinese virus". The fact that everyone who has responded so far has ignored the question (instead lecturing on widely known trivia about Spanish Flu) would suggest there is nothing offensive about it and they are just being busy bodies. Trump has done plenty wrong FWIW.

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

We're only in the early stages of spread...

The much increased level of testing is going to push numbers up quickly anyway.

walshb

Kidchameleon wrote: »

No, I'm trying to find out what is so offensive about calling a virus that originated IN CHINA as a "Chinese virus". The fact that everyone who has responded so far has ignored the question (instead lecturing on widely known trivia about Spanish Flu) would suggest there is nothing offensive about it and they are just being busy bodies. Trump has done plenty wrong FWIW.

It’s offensive because Trump wants it to be. Deliberately making it so.

He is an absolute toerag!

Duggie2012

When is our update today?

walshb

Duggie2012 wrote: »

When is our update today?

8.45

tuxy

walshb wrote: »

Anybody else getting fed up with the social media nonsense with people and their Covid vids? The world littered with attention seeking..

Get off most social media. You'll be in a much better mood.

froog

froog wrote: »

i'd be happy with a good clatter of recovereds tonight.

It was interesting what the U.K. chief scientific officer was saying about developing a test that not only tells you if you have it, but can also tell if you have had it.

While there is the likelihood that lots of people have it and don’t know, there is also the likelihood there are people who have had it and fought it off without developing any symptoms.

froog

Kidchameleon wrote: »

No, I'm trying to find out what is so offensive about calling a virus that originated IN CHINA as a "Chinese virus". The fact that everyone who has responded so far has ignored the question (instead lecturing on widely known trivia about Spanish Flu) would suggest there is nothing offensive about it and they are just being busy bodies. Trump has done plenty wrong FWIW.

cause viruses don't have nationalities. this thing is killing thousands and trump gives it a nationality. it's something a 10 year old would do.

Duggie2012

walshb wrote: »

8.45

Cheers

Blueshoe

froog wrote: »

cause viruses don't have nationalities. this thing is killing thousands and trump gives it a nationality. it's something a 10 year old would do.

Like the people who named the Spanish flu. Bunch of ten year olds.

walshb

tuxy wrote: »

Get off most social media. You'll be in a much better mood.

Why didn’t I think of that!!!

digitaldr

Very damning editorial on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

freshpopcorn

jamesf85

It seems to be still on a huge upward trajectory in Italy, how is it so far ahead of the rest of Europe? The got in from Germany no?

Also the drug Remdesivir but not be the answer either. I'm sure medics in Italy have tried this now and we'd have heard if it was working

fritzelly

Bad day for France

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240353581104013318

branie2

digitaldr wrote: »

Very damning [URL="Scientists have been sounding the alarm on coronavirus for months. Why did Britain fail to act?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard"]editorial[/URL] on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

It's blank!

What Username Guidelines

Blueshoe wrote: »

Like the people who named the Spanish flu. Bunch of ten year olds.

The Spanish named it the Spanish flu. It was knocking around for a while and when it arrived in Spain they didn’t realise it came from outside.

Quantum Erasure

is_that_so wrote: »

The much increased level of testing is going to push numbers up quickly anyway.

could be up around 100 for today

CIARAN_BOYLE

jamesf85 wrote: »

It seems to be still on a huge upward trajectory in Italy, how is it so far ahead of the rest of Europe? The got in from Germany no?

Also the drug Remdesivir but not be the answer either. I'm sure medics in Italy have tried this now and we'd have heard if it was working

I feel that the Italians are in too much chaos to work on medical trials.

Funsterdelux

digitaldr wrote: »

Very damning on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

Link is wrong

murpho999

I see card contactless payments are being raised to €50. That's grand but many people will spend more than that on a big shop and you have to put card in after 3 uses.

For those who can then Apple Pay, Google Pay, Garmin Pay etc that can be used on phones and smartwatches is the solution. No limit on spend (Apart from Tesco which is very annoying) and no 3 in a row pin requirement.

At present, Allied Irish Bank Bunq, KBC, N26, Monese,Ulster Bank and Revolut can be used this way.

Also remember neither the phone or the card have to touch the actual machine despite people always doing it and being called "tap".

Signore Fancy Pants

Gods Gift wrote: »

So what yall think about this fecking virus thing?

What Virus?

Blueshoe

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

The Spanish named it the Spanish flu. It was knocking around for a while and when it arrived in Spain they didn’t realise it came from outside.

Bunch of ten year olds. It's their own fault for not knowing.

is_that_so

digitaldr wrote: »

Very damning [URL="Scientists have been sounding the alarm on coronavirus for months. Why did Britain fail to act?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard"]editorial[/URL] on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

This is the actual page.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong