Running, Corona Virus and Social Distancing

stockshares

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

What, you mean that one? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113232036&postcount=1123

Which is 1) still there if you had bothered to look for it and 2) doesn't actually mention coughing.

Other than that, keep going.

It says a lot about some of the Moderators on this forum that the post wasnt condemned. That poster behaved like a bully and nothing was said by many of the mods.

robinph

A change in tone regarding the social distancing starting to be gradually introduced in the UK I noticed this morning. They had a minor minister on to chat on Breakfast (defence wouldn't normally be minor, but at the moment they are) and they were being used to say things such as the 2meter rule doesn't really matter as much as the duration.

We knew that anyway, and the main reason for the 2meter thing is to keep it simple so that people pick the message up easily, can easily see that they are complying and by it being 2meters you allow for it not really mattering if people are only actually 1meter apart. This morning the minister was saying that the duration that you are close to someone is just as important, if not more. Things will start to become a bit more nuanced from here and that then allows for different social distancing in different situations.

Like running around a park is completely different to sitting in an office for 8 hours a day.

robinph

stockshares wrote: »

It says a lot about some of the Moderators on this forum that the post wasnt condemned. That poster behaved like a bully and nothing was said by many of the mods.

There is nothing to be condemned from that post. The breathing heavily/ coughing/ running more loudly on gravel/ splashing through a puddle are all common ways of gently alerting people that you are approaching from behind of your presence without frightening them. Any kind of shout or call will be misheard and taken as aggressive, it's difficult to get the tone of voice right when running and the person you are approaching will usually mishear you anyway as it takes their ears time to tune into your voice.

I've much practice at alerting people to my approach when running, and by far the best is having the kid in the buggy singing christmas songs. But that's not always practical for me to take the buggy out on every run, and they don't always sing when I need them too.

fr336

juke wrote: »

Bull****, you clearly have an agenda. That simply hasn’t happened.

An agenda against runners? Hilarious. Can assure you it did happen. Why so defensive I wonder.

stockshares

robinph wrote: »

There is nothing to be condemned from that post. The breathing heavily/ coughing/ running more loudly on gravel/ splashing through a puddle are all common ways of gently alerting people that you are approaching from behind of your presence without frightening them. Any kind of shout or call will be misheard and taken as aggressive, it's difficult to get the tone of voice right when running and the person you are approaching will usually mishear you anyway as it takes their ears time to tune into your voice.

I've much practice at alerting people to my approach when running, and by far the best is having the kid in the buggy singing christmas songs. But that's not always practical for me to take the buggy out on every run, and they don't always sing when I need them too.

You have misread the tone of that posters post.

You might be trying to alert someone but the other poster was clearly being a bully.

robinph

stockshares wrote: »

You have misread the tone of that posters post.

You might be trying to alert someone but the other poster was clearly being a bully.

There was absolutely nothing bullying about their actions, posters were merely discussing different tactics for making ourselves heard when approaching other people on trails so that they don't get scared and fall in ditches as they jump.

Think you may need to do the re-reading of the posts.

Working class heroes

robinph wrote: »

There was absolutely nothing bullying about their actions, posters were merely discussing different tactics for making ourselves heard when approaching other people on trails so that they don't get scared and fall in ditches as they jump.

Think you may need to do the re-reading of the posts.

I know there are a few new posters here who are possibly stirring things but I just checked out that post and in the current climate and in the context of the subject of this thread I thought the post was dodgy, at best.

nyarlothothep

I find cyclists are the worst. On Saturday I saw a trio of them cycle up on top of two dog walkers and push them aside. Ignoring social distancing for the moment, that's just extremely ignorant in itself. Families of cyclists don't socially distance at all. I think there should be new regulations introduced to ban cyclists from parks, they don't seem to cycle on the grass when they can and instead insist on using the paths, forcing walkers off etc. I have to check my back all the time to see if they're coming up on me. Walkers/dog walkers are hit and miss. 99% of them make no effort to socially distance, it's seldom but welcomed when some do though. Dogs will always raise the alarm but I'm finding a lot of problems lie with cyclists. Or with people who openly cough, that's nuts of them to do so considering the circumstances.

robinph

Cyclists should really be taking this opportunity to reclaim the roads back from the cars whilst traffic is reduced. Let the footpaths be used by people using their feet.

sideswipe

It’s gas the way people come into this thread thinking everyone they see out running hangs out here.
I run the same roads year round in all weathers, 357 days last year. In the last two months I’ve seen an explosion in people running in my area. I usually know everyone now it’s usually 1 in 3.
Since gyms and team sports have been curtailed a lot of these people have taken to running, good on them.
I just wanted to point this out to those coming in with axes to grid about ‘runners’.

juke

fr336 wrote: »

An agenda against runners? Hilarious. Can assure you it did happen. Why so defensive I wonder.

Not defensive. Just calling out a troll post.

innuendo141

I'm delighted that from today I can run on the main roads again. The amount of people walking on our road (a lot not from the area) walking 2 and 3 abreast and not moving in was starting to increase. It costs nothing to just move in a few centimetres.

Hurrache

micar wrote: »

I call bullsh1t€ on this as well.

I have not met I inconsiderate person out walking or running.....either I've moved over or they have moved over and always in plenty of time.

This is not true either, I've seen and experienced it. Like I said previously, there's dicks using all forms of transport.

Stark

https://dumbrunner.com/news-blog/2020/4/27/man-driving-to-walmart-for-doritos-disgusted-at-selfishness-of-person-out-for-a-run

Quite a few very funny articles on that site.

robinph

robinph wrote: »

Cyclists should really be taking this opportunity to reclaim the roads back from the cars whilst traffic is reduced. Let the footpaths be used by people using their feet.

Seems that Paris is thinking along those lines with streets being made cyclist only as they release the lockdown and saying that it may become permanent on some roads.

Brock Turnpike

Went for a run along the canal yesterday. It was an absolute mess with the amount of people out for a walk / fish along it. People clustering due to meeting in opposite direction, and/or catching up on each other.

The Davestator

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Went for a run along the canal yesterday. It was an absolute mess with the amount of people out for a walk / fish along it. People clustering due to meeting in opposite direction, and/or catching up on each other.

That was fairly obvious, no? If you go somewhere narrow, expect it to be difficult to socially distance.

Brock Turnpike

The Davestator wrote: »

That was fairly obvious, no? If you go somewhere narrow, expect it to be difficult to socially distance.

Yesterday was by a distance the worst it's been since I've ran along there during lockdown. There has definitely been a gradual relaxation from people over the last week or so.

IvoryTower

The weather is beautiful, everyone should be outside everyday to be fair

John_Rambo

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Went for a run along the canal yesterday. It was an absolute mess with the amount of people out for a walk / fish along it. People clustering due to meeting in opposite direction, and/or catching up on each other.

Couldn't think of a stupider place to run in normal times, never mind on a sunny bank holiday during a viral pandemic.

Stark

John_Rambo wrote: »

Couldn't think of a stupider place to run in normal times, never mind on a sunny bank holiday during a viral pandemic.

:rolleyes:

If you're so sure of that, maybe you can tell is which canal he was talking about and the location along the canal for a start.

average_runner

IvoryTower wrote: »

The weather is beautiful, everyone should be outside everyday to be fair

Hard to be when you are working

MonkstownHoop

average_runner wrote: »

Hard to be when you are working

The general idea that everyone does 9-5 Mon-Fri has turned into everyone is working from home

opus

Was walking to the shop at lunchtime & what did I see coming towards me on the footpath but a guy on some sort of motorised skateboard holding leads for two dogs. Just shook my head & crossed the street

The new 5k limit means Cork's most unfriendly park for pedestrian access (Tramore Valley) is within reach so made it in there late afternoon & ran the old parkrun course. Drizzly evening so fairly quite apart from the council van driving around against the people running!

John_Rambo

Stark wrote: »

:rolleyes:

If you're so sure of that, maybe you can tell is which canal he was talking about and the location along the canal for a start.

The part where there were lots of people walking distance chatting and fishing in what's obviously a tow path or narrow space. Otherwise Brock would have been able to run around them. If you want exact geographical locations ask Brock^ sort it out between you.

opus wrote: »

Was walking to the shop at lunchtime & what did I see coming towards me on the footpath but a guy on some sort of motorised skateboard holding leads for two dogs. Just shook my head & crossed the street

Came head on with two people walking dogs on my electronic board, went to avoid and fell on my hole. Lots of hilarity all around, particularly from my son. It's funny, good natured people trying to help and then realising they can't.

Stark

You seemed awfully sure that it's a stupid place to run at any time of year, even without pandemic. I assumed from that that you knew the location and weren't just talking out your ass.

John_Rambo

Stark wrote: »

You seemed awfully sure that it's a stupid place to run at any time of year, even without pandemic. I assumed from that that you knew the location and weren't just talking out your ass.

Yeah, I overreacted there. Sorry, normally a perfect place for everyone to enjoy.

average_runner

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

The general idea that everyone does 9-5 Mon-Fri has turned into everyone is working from home

My wife and I are lucky we can work from home. The days go by so quickly.

Trampas

Cyclists I see last week who wouldn’t stay within the 2km and went more like 5km. This week the 5km is now 10km to them.

Stark

Were you following them home or something?

BaZmO*

Yeah, how do you know how far they're travelling? Are they arriving back from their cycle with strawberries from Wexford?

fr336

Update: Female jogger today went out of her way to avoid me and went on the grass rather than me having to do it. Well done her. 1 in 20 runners are selfless people

Alicano

Trampas wrote: »

Cyclists I see last week who wouldn’t stay within the 2km and went more like 5km. This week the 5km is now 10km to them.

A colleague of mine has been hitting 90km round trip cycles. He doesn't give a f#ck. Lovely lad mind. Bad part I think is he's a fitness trainer. So he's on instagram everyday either running or cycling doing the motivation video thing. I think he's publicly being irresponsible to his clients. But maybe I'm just grumpy .

RacoonQueen

fr336 wrote: »

Update: Female jogger today went out of her way to avoid me and went on the grass rather than me having to do it. Well done her. 1 in 20 runners are selfless people

Are you going to contribute anything of substance to this thread or are you going to make all your posts attempts to get peoples backs up? I bet you're one of those drivers who has an irrational hatred for cyclists too and goes around saying you saw them CYCLING 20 ABREAST.
Wind down the trolling or you're be taking a long break from this forum.

fr336

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Are you going to contribute anything of substance to this thread or are you going to make all your posts attempts to get peoples backs up? I bet you're one of those drivers who has an irrational hatred for cyclists too and goes around saying you saw them CYCLING 20 ABREAST.
Wind down the trolling or you're be taking a long break from this forum.

Nah just saying is all. Calling me a troll implies I was making it up, which I take exception to moderator or not. That you're all so defensive suggests you know there's a grain of truth in the self centered nature of many (not all) runners / joggers. I thought it went without saying that not all runners are like them, that would be silly.

Burkie1203

fr336 wrote: »

1 in 20 runners are selfless people

I call bullsh1t on this. My experience the last 2 months has been very much the opposite of this

500km run and only had issue with 8 -10 ppl.

I saw 1 person running making zero effort to afford space to others

A family walking 5 abreast along the canal at ashtown (narrow bit opposite train station),

A cyclist not stopping at a red light

A few walkers hogging middle of narrow paths



Most others have been proactive or considerate. Couples going single file or people running towards me have signalled where they are going etc.

There is a small minority of people who are either selfish, idiotic, just don't care or have no spatial awareness around themselves.

average_runner

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah, how do you know how far they're travelling? Are they arriving back from their cycle with strawberries from Wexford?

Can i have some?

average_runner

fr336 wrote: »

Nah just saying is all. Calling me a troll implies I was making it up, which I take exception to moderator or not. That you're all so defensive suggests you know there's a grain of truth in the self centered nature of many (not all) runners / joggers. I thought it went without saying that not all runners are like them, that would be silly.

To be honest you are not adding any value to this forum.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

To be honest you are not adding any value to this forum.

I don't think this thread in general is adding any value to this forum at this stage to be honest.

28064212

Chivito550 wrote: »

I don't think this thread in general is adding any value to this forum at this stage to be honest.

Keeps it confined to one thread. Otherwise you'll just be having the same points raised in multiple threads every couple of days

Chivito550

Chivito550 wrote: »

I don't think this thread in general is adding any value to this forum at this stage to be honest.

I long for the old days of discussing Toxic Sweat

IvoryTower

We've had the toxic runners, walkers and cyclists

Now I present to you...

The lying downers. I **** you not. Lay down on the ground across the path where everyone runs and walks having a wee hug. This is a very clear path that surrounds 2 football pitches, had about 10 people running and walking at the time, no bother to them, best place they could find in the acres of grass was across the path.
I felt like warning them that people would spit, dogs would piss there etc but was too busy spreading my own toxic sweat

Stark

Sure they weren't there for hurdles / 2m high jump training?

IvoryTower

They were lying flat across the path, about 2 foot to jump at worst, no use to anyone

Stark

Ah yes, but you need 2m clearance to avoid catching the coronavirus off them.

The Black Oil

Deleted User wrote: »

I long for the old days of discussing Toxic Sweat

A straight to DVD outing, with Steven Seagal.

Slow_Runner

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/marathon-efforts-can-distance-runners-keep-safely-apart-1.4251855

I'll just leave this here.............

OutTheGap

Slow_Runner wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/marathon-efforts-can-distance-runners-keep-safely-apart-1.4251855

I'll just leave this here.............

Makes a lot of sense where he says the danger of holding a race would be at the start. The race itself and the finish would probably be okay.

Hard to see a easy solution for any decent size races though.

Seannew1

OutTheGap wrote: »

Makes a lot of sense where he says the danger of holding a race would be at the start. The race itself and the finish would probably be okay.

Hard to see a easy solution for any decent size races though.

Let runners out one by one??

OutTheGap

Seannew1 wrote: »

Let runners out one by one??

Our club has held handicap races where everybody goes off a different times and the fastest goes off last. They are great fun and very interesting to watch.

If you let runners out one by one at 15 second intervals, it would take an hour to get 240 runners out. Might work for a local club race but wouldn't scale up too well.