Running, Corona Virus and Social Distancing

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But.....

"Reassuringly, “there is no empirical evidence that runners or bikers are a point source of infection,” said Dr Dean Winslow, a professor of medicine at Stanford University and an infectious disease specialist, who reviewed the new modelling study at my request.

The study also remains unpublished or peer-reviewed"

However people will believe what they want to believe so as a community we are F*ked:eek::eek:

It will take a long time to win back the PR battle on this one unfortunately.

Sussex18

I wonder could there be any marathons or half marathons done alone? Officially sanctioned by some body but in isolation? Probably not I suppose because too many people would probably want to do it and we could get even worse media coverage?

The Davestator

Sussex18 wrote: »

I wonder could there be any marathons or half marathons done alone? Officially sanctioned by some body but in isolation? Probably not I suppose because too many people would probably want to do it and we could get even worse media coverage?

I'm organising a solo 10k for work and students in my job. Plans started on Monday and the 'event' will be on 27th June. The event will depend on what restrictions are in place, but probably we will all do a solo run at the same time.
Just something to get everyone focussed.

robinph

Sussex18 wrote: »

I wonder could there be any marathons or half marathons done alone? Officially sanctioned by some body but in isolation? Probably not I suppose because too many people would probably want to do it and we could get even worse media coverage?

If London don't change their requirements for gaining a GFA time for next year then I'd be up for an attempt at a solo time trial around a 5 or 10km looped course if someone officially measured it and set us all off at 1 minute intervals.

Would be tough to get the time without proper race conditions and people to follow, but would be interesting as a once off event to get the qualification time.

Stark

I could never match my race pace on a time trial. There's just something about the race atmosphere and having a pack of people around me that enables me to push significantly harder.

backofthepack

Our club are doing a team 5k race on Thursday.
Everyone has been put into teams, do their own 5k and times put together.
For the race entry we're all making a donation to the local hospital.
Not the same as a race but I'm already feeling a bit of pre-race nerves, especially as you want to do well for your team.
And supporting a good cause too, we've over €1000 raised so far.
We'll be sending in selfies in our club vests for the fb page.
Maybe a 10k next month

robinph

Stark wrote: »

I could never match my race pace on a time trial. There's just something about the race atmosphere and having a pack of people around me that enables me to push significantly harder.

Absolutely, it's nowhere near the same level of motivation to get you across the line. I managed to get within 10 minutes of my required GFA time on a "training" run at the weekend* so think I could manage the time if push came to shove for a 2021 entry under solo time trial conditions. Wouldn't be enough motivation for a proper decent time, but could just scrape through.




*distance from home and duration restrictions don't apply where I am

Murph_D

robinph wrote: »

Absolutely, it's nowhere near the same level of motivation to get you across the line. I managed to get within 10 minutes of my required GFA time on a "training" run at the weekend* so think I could manage the time if push came to shove for a 2021 entry under solo time trial conditions. Wouldn't be enough motivation for a proper decent time, but could just scrape through.


*distance from home and duration restrictions don't apply where I am

Where is this solo TT GFA thing coming from? Has London Marathon suggested this will be a possible entry route? (Sceptical!)

robinph

Murph_D wrote: »

Where is this solo TT GFA thing coming from? Has London Marathon suggested this will be a possible entry route? (Sceptical!)

Entirely made up from my head.

But so far they've made no mention of the criteria for 2021 which means that they would hopefully be basing the deadline for running a time 4th October at the moment. But in the highly likely event that they have to cancel October what would they then revert to for 2021? I've already been told by them that my 2018 time won't count and my 2019 time wouldn't be far enough inside the cut off.. So I was then just thinking up scenario's where I could run a time and keep my streak of entries going.

Murph_D

robinph wrote: »

Entirely made up from my head.

But so far they've made no mention of the criteria for 2021 which means that they would hopefully be basing the deadline for running a time 4th October at the moment. But in the highly likely event that they have to cancel October what would they then revert to for 2021? I've already been told by them that my 2018 time won't count and my 2019 time wouldn't be far enough inside the cut off.. So I was then just thinking up scenario's where I could run a time and keep my streak of entries going.

In a scenario where there will have been hardly any marathons run in 2020 they will have to base the 2021 GFA on times from the 2020 qualifying period - i.e. 2018/2019. Or just abolish GFA.

average_runner

robinph wrote: »

Entirely made up from my head.

But so far they've made no mention of the criteria for 2021 which means that they would hopefully be basing the deadline for running a time 4th October at the moment. But in the highly likely event that they have to cancel October what would they then revert to for 2021? I've already been told by them that my 2018 time won't count and my 2019 time wouldn't be far enough inside the cut off.. So I was then just thinking up scenario's where I could run a time and keep my streak of entries going.

They just put more places in the lottery. Cant see any races in 2020 happening

Trampas

Good man Johnny Doyle. Smashes the 2km radius. Sticks it on Twitter and getting big praise for it. Even though for charity doesn’t mean it’s ok. Does nothing for us runners who stick to rules

opus

Something I've noticed a few times now is people jogging on Patrick St (the main street in Cork), not a problem really as it's wide with little traffic now & not many people. In fact I've done it myself on a rainy Sunday morning two weeks ago

Asset management

Out for walk today in local park Albert College Dublin about 3pm with daughter on bike, she was cycling walking speed beside me whiles chatting to each other, we were on outside right of path overtaking a middle aged woman on left side of path, a runner came around blind corner at speed who made his way past in middle of footpath, decided to shout FFS at us all. He was doing laps at pace thinking he owns the park on a sunny summers afternoon while everyone else were pleasant and considerate to each other and moving out of each other’s way. Should everyone stay at home so this one guy can do his track training in a pubic park ?

fr336

Unfortunately as a walker I have had consistently bad experiences with joggers during lockdown. Whereas 99% of fellow walkers will stay well away from you and maybe even give a nod and a smile, every single jogger I've seen has made no attempt to steer off their course when passing me, so I have to make a very quick jolt to get out of their way, and all while they're panting like they're running a marathon. Seriously what the hell? Go for a run, great, run to the moon and back, but why the special rules compared to everyone else? Are they so caught up in their unique run they can't follow the social distancing guidelines us mere mortals have to? Rant over...

John_Rambo

opus wrote: »

Something I've noticed a few times now is people jogging on Patrick St (the main street in Cork), not a problem really as it's wide with little traffic now & not many people. In fact I've done it myself on a rainy Sunday morning two weeks ago

Yeah, I live on a road that's part of the Raheny road races in Dublin. I've met a few runners running at pace on the road to practise safe distancing and avoid the footpaths. They're dead right, I keep my distance in the car, drive slowly at 20 metres away from them and let them at it... some of them spot me and make way, but I'd be happy to remain behind them for the short time.

I wouldn't chance it myself. Not sure if the modern automobile can actually drive that slow!

juke

fr336 wrote: »

Unfortunately as a walker I have had consistently bad experiences with joggers during lockdown. Whereas 99% of fellow walkers will stay well away from you and maybe even give a nod and a smile, every single jogger I've seen has made no attempt to steer off their course when passing me, so I have to make a very quick jolt to get out of their way, and all while they're panting like they're running a marathon. Seriously what the hell? Go for a run, great, run to the moon and back, but why the special rules compared to everyone else? Are they so caught up in their unique run they can't follow the social distancing guidelines us mere mortals have to? Rant over...

Bull****, you clearly have an agenda. That simply hasn’t happened.

Asset management

Personally I’ve had good experiences from walkers joggers runners everyone looking out for each other except for one guy today who thought he owned the park.

John_Rambo

juke wrote: »

Bull****, you clearly have an agenda. That simply hasn’t happened.

There was a runner on this thread who claimed to run up to people coughing and panting to get them out of their way and reckoned it worked very well. Post seems to have been removed. The thread is being well managed.

adrian522

Asset management wrote: »

Personally I’ve had good experiences from walkers joggers runners everyone looking out for each other except for one guy today who thought he owned the park.

Why do you think the posters of this forum need to answer for the actions of this one individual?

What are you hoping to achieve from this post?

adrian522

fr336 wrote: »

Unfortunately as a walker I have had consistently bad experiences with joggers during lockdown. Whereas 99% of fellow walkers will stay well away from you and maybe even give a nod and a smile, every single jogger I've seen has made no attempt to steer off their course when passing me, so I have to make a very quick jolt to get out of their way, and all while they're panting like they're running a marathon. Seriously what the hell? Go for a run, great, run to the moon and back, but why the special rules compared to everyone else? Are they so caught up in their unique run they can't follow the social distancing guidelines us mere mortals have to? Rant over...

I've actually found the complete opposite, I noticed runners (or joggers as you call them) will go out of their way to move to one side, out onto the road quite often but people walking/cycling/on scooters on the footpath typically don't make may at all and seem happy to not bother with social distancing.

Asset management

adrian522 wrote: »

Why do you think the posters of this forum need to answer for the actions of this one individual?

What are you hoping to achieve from this post?

Because in a community of everyone from all walks of life looking after each other there is always one A**hole.

adrian522

So should I post about it every time a group of walkers done move aside or adhere to the rules? Again what was the point of your post?

1 person annoyed you, maybe take it up with him/her at the time rather than making an angry Internet post afterwards.

Asset management

adrian522 wrote: »

So should I post about it every time a group of walkers done move aside or adhere to the rules? Again what was the point of your post?

1 person annoyed you, maybe take it up with him/her at the time rather than making an angry Internet post afterwards.

I did consider running after him and throwing him into ditch but instead decided to smile and tell the middle aged lady he cursed at not to worry about it, but suppose you’re right, guess I’ll see him during the week again and we’ll discuss it. Would that be better than mentioning it on a ‘running coranavirus social distancing’ debate thread ?

adrian522

Just not sure what you are hoping to get out of this post. Whatever, enjoy your rant, hope it blows off some steam for you.

Asset management

adrian522 wrote: »

Just not sure what you are hoping to get out of this post. Whatever, enjoy your rant, hope it blows off some steam for you.

Spot on, rant over, thanks 😀

micar

fr336 wrote: »

every single jogger I've seen has made no attempt to steer off their course when passing me.........all while they're panting like they're running a marathon. ............ Rant over...

I call bullsh1t€ on this as well.

I have not met I inconsiderate person out walking or running.....either I've moved over or they have moved over and always in plenty of time.

Perhaps you should look well into the distance to see what's coming towards you and ensure the space will be there well before they are on top of you.

Descriptions of runners are akin to descriptions of cyclists....."look at them there in their lycra.......dressed like they are doing the tour de france"

Burkie1203

micar wrote: »

I call bullsh1t€ on this as well.

I have not met I inconsiderate person out walking or running.....either I've moved over or they have moved over and always in plenty of time.

Perhaps you should look well into the distance to see what's coming towards you and ensure the space will be there well before they are on top of you.

Descriptions of runners are akin to descriptions of cyclists....."look at them there in their lycra.......dressed like they are doing the tour de france"

I've had one issue with 3 people (who I know dont all live in same house) walking side by side and i happened upon them at a narrow part of a park with bushes on one side of path and a fence the other. They werent happy with me going by them but they made no effort to go single file.

Last week as i approached a guy walking in middle of path i asked if he could go one side or the other, he moved ,I said thanks, he said no problem.

Just be nice. Take care of what you can control. Always a few dicks out there. One walker or runner being a dick is not representative of them all.

I've spent a lot of time on the side of the road and have found drivers have understood why I am there and have been brilliant.

I venture into the 3 parks near home and will do 1 lap. If they are too busy i will leave. I count the people i run by on my first lap and if it gets to 10 (smaller park) or 15 (bigger parks) then I bail. I go into parks for the green surrounds but I can live without that

Casey78

I'm finding people in general are being very aware and respectful to others. I've had very few incidents where there is a large group not going single file to let you pass, and in return I do my best to stay out of peoples way.
I find the biggest menace are those with dogs on a lead. Not all obviously,but I have noticed more of them that are very reluctant to pull the lead in when passing.

Sometimes it's not possible to jump down onto the road and people just have to pass each other on the same path, when a dog walker has their dog on the full extension of their lead it makes it difficult sometimes to pass especially when they don't pull the dog back.

Though sometimes you can't win. I was running in a probably 6ft wide cycle lane one day to avoid a particularly busy path, but keeping as close to the kerb as possible, but then got shouted at by a cyclist to get out of his way, even though the main road was empty so he has a whole two lanes of road to pass me.. anyway I thought it was funny more than anything.

TFBubendorfer

John_Rambo wrote: »

There was a runner on this thread who claimed to run up to people coughing and panting to get them out of their way and reckoned it worked very well. Post seems to have been removed. The thread is being well managed.

What, you mean that one? https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113232036&postcount=1123

Which is 1) still there if you had bothered to look for it and 2) doesn't actually mention coughing.

Other than that, keep going.