Practicalities concerning optional activities

is_that_so

paddythere wrote: »

Currently, on my street there is a gathering of about 6-8 neighbours standing around chatting...all female....for the last 45 minutes.

My mother is going crazy after only 5 days of this.

My girlfriend went to the supermarket 3 times yesterday despite my pleas.

Why can't women just sit the **** down and enjoy chilling out?

Feel better now?

ILoveYourVibes

storker wrote: »

The problem, as I understand it, is people packed close together indoors. Glendalough is in the open air so shouldn't be a problem if people are maintaining a 2 metre distance. A family doesn't need to maintain this distance since they are all living in close proximity anyway. So as long as you have families, individuals and couples maintaining their 2m distance from other families, individuals and couples, they should be OK. The area around Glendalough is big enough to support a lot of people doing this. What they shouldn't be doing, though, is popping into the hotel for lunch.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/protect-yourself.html

It actually specifically says avoid indoor places.

The HSE should give guildlines as to HOW people can go out. As people have said if they don't ...others will ignore it.

This has to be sustainable for the next year.

paddythere

is_that_so wrote: »

Feel better now?

A little

ILoveYourVibes

My dad went to play golf with his mates yesterday. He has asthma!

artanevilla

Outdoors are fine lads, the virus is not airborne.

ILoveYourVibes

artanevilla wrote: »

Outdoors are fine lads, the virus is not airborne.

Prob cleaner than our own homes.

We do need to worry about other people though and contact.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

artanevilla wrote: »

Outdoors are fine lads, the virus is not airborne.

If the virus is not airborne, how is it getting into people's lungs then genius?

Is it crawling into their mouth?

I think being outdoors is okay, but we need to keep our distance from others and avoid overcrowding places like parks etc - better to go for a walk/jog somewhere less popular, like some random stretch of road with very little people around.

ILoveYourVibes

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

If the virus is not airborne, how is it getting into people's lungs then genius?

Is it crawling into their mouth?

I think being outdoors is okay, but we need to keep our distance from others and avoid overcrowding places like parks etc - better to go for a walk/jog somewhere less popular, like some random stretch of road with very little people around.

Its airborne. Keep 2 meter distances from people outside your family. Wash your hands when you get back in. Change your clothes daily.

But you can go out. You can and should do things.

Parks are fine. You just keep away from people.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its airborne. Keep 2 meter distances from people outside your family. Wash your hands when you get back in. Change your clothes daily.

But you can go out. You can and should do things.

Parks are fine. You just keep away from people.

I think I'll keep 2 meters from my family as well... it's a great excuse if nothing else!

Do I have to change my underwear daily too? I doubt they have any coronavirus on them! (Just every other virus apart from that one!) :pac:

Seriously though, I am avoiding public parks when exercising... it's where everyone else goes for a walk/jog. There may be a lower risk of getting it in the open air, but still I'm just avoiding built up areas for now!

tipperaryboy

What are people’s view on visiting family all being young and relatively healthy? Should it be completely avoided

Wibbs

artanevilla wrote: »

the virus is not airborne.

I wish people would stop saying this. It's not the case, or it's more nuanced than that. It doesn't appear to be fully airborne in the sense of viral particles in the wind, but it is airborne in the sense of expelled droplets in breath and coughs and sneezes in aerosol carrying the virus. It's why the two metres "safe" distance figure is in place. Though if someone coughs directly at you from six feet away... Hence why the cough into a hankie or your inner elbow is in place. Sneezes would carry it further, but sneezing doesn't seem to be a common symptom of this dose.

Wibbs

tipperaryboy wrote: »

What are people’s view on visiting family all being young and relatively healthy? Should it be completely avoided

What part of social distancing is proving hard for people to get? No offence T, as I see friends of mine doing what you're describing, but it's pretty clear.

OK let's imagine one of the family have it. No symptoms or no symptoms yet. They pass it on to at least two others(which seems to the general pattern with this). They in turn leave it on surfaces when shopping or going to the pharmacy and so on.

nyarlothothep

It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.

storker

nyarlothothep wrote: »

It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.

There's something funny about The Crawling Chaos trying to avoid looking suspicious.

Pawwed Rig

Would it be better to just get it and ride it out given that none of us in the house are in the risk categories? Or is that playing with fire?

chicorytip

nyarlothothep wrote: »

It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.

Contamination will occur only when there is a prolonged period of exposure to somebody with the virus. At least fifteen minutes, that is. These very brief kind of closenesses you describe would place you at zero risk. Continue with your daily runs.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Would it be better to just get it and ride it out given that none of us in the house are in the risk categories? Or is that playing with fire?

Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

I think a 21yo Spanish football coach died recently from it...

I don't care what strategy anyone is peddling, if they want to call it "herd immunity" or some other BS... I'm never deliberately infecting myself with something we know very little about, and then just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best! (In my book that's not really a strategy anyway - unless you are talking about a vaccine type scenario)

KiKi III

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

I think a 21yo Spanish football coach died recently from it...

I don't care what strategy anyone is peddling, if they want to call it "herd immunity" or some other BS... I'm never deliberately infecting myself with something we know very little about, and then just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best! (In my book that's not really a strategy anyway - unless you are talking about a vaccine type scenario)

I’m not saying it’s a good idea (I don’t think it is) but don’t a lot of parents let their kids pick up chicken pox willingly so they don’t get it again?

Pawwed Rig

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

Absolutely not but my ponderence (rather than a proposition) is would it be better to get it over with and move on with life rather than hole up for the next 3 months whereupon I may get it anyway

KiKi III

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Absolutely not but my ponderence (rather than a proposition) is would it be better to get it over with and move on with life rather than hole up for the next 3 months whereupon I may get it anyway

You’ll have to hole up anyway.

And no, the whole point of making every effort not get it now is to avoid putting pressure on the health services as the virus peaks.

If you get it on purpose and end up in an ICU bed (or you infect someone who does) you’re potentially depriving a much more vulnerable person of that bed/ treatment/ ventilator.

Alf Veedersane

KiKi III wrote: »

I’m not saying it’s a good idea (I don’t think it is) but don’t a lot of parents let their kids pick up chicken pox willingly so they don’t get it again?

I've never heard of parents letting their children get the chicken pox. Not sane ones anyway.

There isn't a great deal of logic in letting them get it once so they don't get it another time.

Pawwed Rig

KiKi III wrote: »

If you get it on purpose and end up in an ICU bed (or you infect someone who does) you’re potentially depriving a much more vulnerable person of that bed/ treatment/ ventilator.

I am obviously not purposely going to infect myself but given that I am unlikely to require ICU my question is would there be any adverse effect of me getting sick, staying at home for however long in a controlled environment and emerging at the far side ready to face the world. Hypothetically speaking

This is it

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I've never heard of parents letting their children get the chicken pox. Not sane ones anyway.

There isn't a great deal of logic in letting them get it once so they don't get it another time.

It is a thing, literally called a chicken pox party. The idea being that it's better for us to get it at a younger age than when you're older where you might have a more severe reaction. Myth or not, I don't know.

Alf Veedersane

This is it wrote: »

It is a thing, literally called a chicken pox party. The idea being that it's better for us to get it at a younger age than when you're older where you might have a more severe reaction. Myth or not, I don't know.

Which is why I added in the 'sane' qualifier.